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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 08:11 AM
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I think I'm going to go with those Goodyear Eagle F1 All Season's next go around. $189 at tirerack and great ratings.

I also run 34lbs front and rear.

http://www.goodyeartires.com/goodyea...=46&image.y=25

Service Description Sidewall Treadwear Traction Temperature Dry Traction Wet Traction Snow Traction Quiet Ride Ride Comfort
100Y VSB 420 AA A 9 9 8 8 9
Old Oct 4, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by HotMaxx02
I have not tried a lot of other tires... Because i found 1 tire that i love!! it fits my needs, AA traction and 380 treadwear... Kicks **** in the Rain too!!
General Exclaim UHP
245/40/18 on an 8.5" wheel
$113 each from TireRack.com
36psi
28,000 miles and still kicking strong
General? Really? I didnt know these were good, I guess I never really looked into these. A while ago many years ago, I saw that one of their tires had poor ratings and I guess I just never gave them a chance since. I will look more into these.
Old Oct 4, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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I have Goodyear F1 A/S 245-45-18 on an 04 Maxima SE.There is no tire wear warranty on the Goodyears because the tire is intended to go on performance cars, so they say.

I have about 3000 miles on them, and they replaced a set of Avon M550 A/S which sucked. The Avons were acceptable for 12000 miles and then the tire compound changed for the worse. Tires got noisy,lost traction in the rain, and was no use in the snow. The sidewalls had no support.

Now to the Goodyears, so far fairly quiet, on new asphalt the wind noise is greater than the tires noise.

The sidewall stiffness is just exceptional without making the tire impact to harsh. The car corners almost without lean,the turn in is much quicker, and the car feels much more balanced in any transition. Tires tracks true and the road force measurement of the tire was low.

So far, in the rain, the tires have shown no sign of giving up traction.

No snow yet.

This car is driven on mountainous interstate highways at 10 to 20 miles past the posted speed limit on a regular basis.
Old Oct 4, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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Mack, Ramberg has a set of Eagle F1s, you should PM him on the Pro's and Cons, I believe thread life was an issue...


Originally Posted by Mack
I think I'm going to go with those Goodyear Eagle F1 All Season's next go around. $189 at tirerack and great ratings.

I also run 34lbs front and rear.

http://www.goodyeartires.com/goodyea...=46&image.y=25

Service Description Sidewall Treadwear Traction Temperature Dry Traction Wet Traction Snow Traction Quiet Ride Ride Comfort
100Y VSB 420 AA A 9 9 8 8 9
Old Oct 4, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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Toyo Versados. Got them free through the Goodyear RSA problem.
Old Oct 4, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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Unfortunately, there are 10 different listings for the Goodyear F1's on the Tire Rack Web site.

If I remember correctly the F1's that Ramburg had were summer tires, not the new ,as of July 07, Goodyear F1 All Season.

Correct me if I am wrong.
Old Oct 4, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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gen2000, ditto your comments about the Avon tyres... I bought these from Tire Rack because they received excellent scores there, but after only 10k miles or so they are loud as can be. I have had them rebalanced 4-5 times and even re-aligned my car, thinking it was something wrong with the car... I guess sometimes you get what you pay for!

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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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Brand new Goodyear RSA's because of the recall, so they were free.
Old Oct 4, 2007 | 07:06 PM
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Hey where are you guys gettting the recall "work" done? Dealership or Goodyear shops? If they are passing out candy freebies I may head on in and get some new tire lovin' myself.
Old Oct 4, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by cyclopsmd
gen2000, ditto your comments about the Avon tyres... I bought these from Tire Rack because they received excellent scores there, but after only 10k miles or so they are loud as can be. I have had them rebalanced 4-5 times and even re-aligned my car, thinking it was something wrong with the car... I guess sometimes you get what you pay for!

JB
Same here, but I dragged on until 19K to move to the Yokohama S4 which are much better ($180). But now they raise the price up much higher.
Old Oct 4, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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Goodyear shop. Original tires had only 33% tread wear on them. I'm mad though person putting tires on scraped up 2 of the rear wheels a little bit with the machine. Sign in building says not responsible for damaged wheels. They really need to be more careful.
Old Oct 4, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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Someone please correct me. I was told each manufaturer has their own data by which they set the data on their tires. Meaning I guess that I was told since you cant get mileage warranty on h,v,z,w, rated tires it may vary alot by which kind of mileage you may get on each brand tire. So is it always better to go with say michelin over another brand?
Old Oct 7, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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35lbs. for me on all 4.
Old Oct 7, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by LandsEnd
Goodyear shop. Original tires had only 33% tread wear on them. I'm mad though person putting tires on scraped up 2 of the rear wheels a little bit with the machine. Sign in building says not responsible for damaged wheels. They really need to be more careful.
This signs are posted for idiots. The law says otherwise. If the cause damage they are responsible. THink about it. You drive to a shop and somewhere on one of the walls it says "not responsible for stolen transmissions", you came back to pick up your wheels and your tranny is missing. Are they covered because there is a sign up. HELL NO, it won't fly in any court.
Old Oct 8, 2007 | 02:15 AM
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zoomer is right. Signs cover some situations, but usually damage done by shops is their responsibility.


redls1 - Michelins are generally either good or very good with tread wear (and in most areas of performance). But tires vary greatly, even within the same brand name. In their latest issue (November 2007), Consumer Reports tested UHP (Ultra High Performance) tires. They tested 15 all-season UHP tires and 36 'summer' UHP tires. The tread-wear testing was outsourced to a new treadwear testing laboratory in Texas.

Of course, to be a valid test, CU had to use the same size of each tire, and the size tested was 225/40ZR18, which does not have a weight-bearing capacity sufficient to use on the Maxima. But these tests do give a good hint of what one might expect from that same tire in a slightly larger size that could be used on a Maxima.

One fact revealed by the CU tests is that tire performance is not closely tied to price. Three of the top five all-season UHP tires cost less than $100 each.

In using CU tests, pay close attention to the factors that cause a particular tire to be rated high or low. In other words, look hardest at tires that are rated highest in areas in which you want the best performance.

The article that accompanies the test results is well-written and informative, especially for those who do not read every tire article that comes down the pike.

If you do not wish to purchase the Consumer Reports November issue, you could simply peruse it at any place that sells magazines, or see it at any library.
Old Oct 8, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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Has anyone run Michelin Primacy or Pilot MXV4 tires on their Maxima? How are they? I am looking for tires that last long, do well in wet conditions, and can handle occassional snow and ice.

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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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Scramblinman - Are the MXV4 tires still around? That sounds like the nomenclature of a set of tires I used 'way back when'.

Among Michelins, Consumer Reports included ony three 'Pilot' type tires in its test.

For the performance traits you listed, I might try for the Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2 at around $158 per tire, or the ContiExtremeContact at $106 per tire. Both those tires have some shortcomings, but both did average or better in the three categories of wet driving tests. Perhaps more importantly, these two tires were the only ones of 51 tested that rated a full orange ball (excellent) in treadwear tests.

The Conti was one of only two tires that rated an 'excellent' on Rolling resistance. Additionally, Conti, being an all-weather tire, was tested for snow traction, and was one of only two tires rated excellent for snow traction. Beuing a 'summer' tire, the Exalto was not tested for snow traction. That does not mean it might not be a decent snow tire.

Had it not been 'below average' in tread life, the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 at $209 would have been an excellent choice with 'excellent' ratings on both dry and wet braking and hydroplaning.

If possible, you may wish to check out the November CU mag, as 13 tires were rated below average in treadwear tests (6 actually got black ***** - much worse than average). Also, there are tires CU tested that I haven't mentioned that did good in testing, and could be well worth your consideration.
Old Oct 8, 2007 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by lightonthehill
Scramblinman - Are the MXV4 tires still around? That sounds like the nomenclature of a set of tires I used 'way back when'.

Among Michelins, Consumer Reports included ony three 'Pilot' type tires in its test.

For the performance traits you listed, I might try for the Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2 at around $158 per tire, or the ContiExtremeContact at $106 per tire. Both those tires have some shortcomings, but both did average or better in the three categories of wet driving tests. Perhaps more importantly, these two tires were the only ones of 51 tested that rated a full orange ball (excellent) in treadwear tests.

The Conti was one of only two tires that rated an 'excellent' on Rolling resistance. Additionally, Conti, being an all-weather tire, was tested for snow traction, and was one of only two tires rated excellent for snow traction. Beuing a 'summer' tire, the Exalto was not tested for snow traction. That does not mean it might not be a decent snow tire.

Had it not been 'below average' in tread life, the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 at $209 would have been an excellent choice with 'excellent' ratings on both dry and wet braking and hydroplaning.

If possible, you may wish to check out the November CU mag, as 13 tires were rated below average in treadwear tests (6 actually got black ***** - much worse than average). Also, there are tires CU tested that I haven't mentioned that did good in testing, and could be well worth your consideration.
I need to get this mag ASAP. With the new rims coming I might have to shop for rubber soon but even thou I love the ever sticky BFGoodrich TDWs, I need all season tires in NY.
Old Oct 9, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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Yes, the MXV4 tires are still around in the "Primacy" line, which is apparently what the "Energy" line has been renamed to.

There are also MXM4 tires in the "Pilot" line.

If the Pilot Exaltos were available in 245/45R18 I would probably buy them and be done with it.

I have an online subscription the Consumer Reports and have been reading their ratings as well as those at Tire Rack and Discount Tire.

The Pilot HX MXM4 is recommended by Consumer Reports but gets panned in the survey at Tire Rack.

I normally don't mind shopping for tires, but between the high cost of these tires and conflicting ratings I am getting a headache...
Old Oct 9, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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If you could get Bridgestone Potenza RE 960 AS Pole Position tires for the same price as Yokohama YK520s, would you? The RE960s seem to rate pretty well on Tire Rack...
Old Oct 9, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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I would probably stick with my Yokahama YK520s, because they are performing so well for me, and I have three Discount Tire dealers (only Discount Tire handles the YK520) within half an hour of my home. I went with the 520s originally because of the very favorable comments from users on several sites.

Having said that, although the Potenza RE 960 AS Pole Positions rated tied for tenth out of fifteen all-season tires tested by CU, these Potenzas were one of only three of the fifteen that rated average or above in every one of the eleven categories in which the tires were tested. You also might consider another of the three tires rated average or better in every category: the ContiExtremeContact at around $106, which finished sixth in the CU tests.

I haven't mentioned in any post here the five tires that finished at the top of CU's all-season ratings. That would be revealing too much. Also, every driver has performance areas that are more important than other areas, and it might be best for each person to look closely at the CU article and ratings in order to select the tires most likely to satisfy their style of driving.
Old Oct 10, 2007 | 06:57 PM
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I drove on the stock continentals for about 4 months before i got rid of them. I have a set of Bridgestone RE-01R's. There is no better tire.
Old Oct 10, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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Guys I've had the potenza's on my car twice now and twice they ride like round bricks. Granted, their handling is SICK but my stock RSA's ride SOOO much nicer. I'm going to try out the Goodyear F-1 all-season's when it's time to get new ones (assuming my sidewalls don't blow out).
Old Oct 10, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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I have th toyos T1Rs and am very happy with these. Very smooth tires and the stickiest things ever. The Continentals are pretty soft and when heated up, very slippery in my opinion. Fo the money, you cant beat the Toyos regardless of what consumer reports says trust me. For performance tires, expect 20K to 30K (lucky). Im running 19s on Nismos.
Same thing, i have T1R

255/40/19 and I use mine at the track and for city driving. Very good tires.

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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 10:11 PM
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In case there may be a few who are not aware, the Continental ContiExtremeContact tires are a far superior tire to the ContiTouringContact (or whatever the nomenclature was) that came on the 6th generation Maxima SLs. In Consumer Reports testing, the ExtremeContacts gave excellent treadlife, excellent snow performance, and rated average or higher in all eleven tested categories. CU rated it as a 'Best Pick'.

In other words, please clear your minds of the disappointments of the OEM Contis (I felt that pain, also), and consider the ExtremeContact as a very desirable tire. Either it or the Yokohama YK520 would easily be my first choice for a Maxima SL.

If I win the lottery, then I might look at a Michelin Pilot, especially the Exalto PE2 or Sport PS2.
Old Oct 11, 2007 | 01:25 AM
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Well I opted for the Yokohama YK520s. They look like they will do well at evacuating water from under the tire and do okay in the snow. We shall see.
Old Oct 11, 2007 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by lightonthehill
In case there may be a few who are not aware, the Continental ContiExtremeContact tires are a far superior tire to the ContiTouringContact (or whatever the nomenclature was) that came on the 6th generation Maxima SLs. In Consumer Reports testing, the ExtremeContacts gave excellent treadlife, excellent snow performance, and rated average or higher in all eleven tested categories. CU rated it as a 'Best Pick'.

In other words, please clear your minds of the disappointments of the OEM Contis (I felt that pain, also), and consider the ExtremeContact as a very desirable tire. Either it or the Yokohama YK520 would easily be my first choice for a Maxima SL.

If I win the lottery, then I might look at a Michelin Pilot, especially the Exalto PE2 or Sport PS2.

The Continental ContiExtremeContact is what I'm getting next before winter hits. According to the reviews and feedbacks, its dry performance is not as great. But for the price and tread life, it's worth it.
Old Oct 15, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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Riken Raptor ZRs. It's what came with the car when I bought it. It looks to be the cheapest 245/45 18s around right now... hmmm. Drove over 100+ miles on it so far and seems fine for now. Got good ratings from tirerack.com. Probably will replace them with Contiextremes when the time comes.
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I recently purchased a set of rims and got new Hankook Ventus Sport K104 with the purchase what do you guys think about these, how good/bad are they? Should I just sell them from the get go?

I am used to my very sticky BFGoodrich KDWs but this time I need all season tires because I am getting rid of all the extra sets of rim/tires just to have them for winter.
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Originally Posted by xoomer.com
I recently purchased a set of rims and got new Hankook Ventus Sport K104 with the purchase what do you guys think about these, how good/bad are they? Should I just sell them from the get go?

I am used to my very sticky BFGoodrich KDWs but this time I need all season tires because I am getting rid of all the extra sets of rim/tires just to have them for winter.
well these guys are ultra performance summer tire so they got to go. Anyone needs a new set? PM ME
Old Oct 15, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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I have some nankang 245 35 20 and although a no name tire I am very happy with them so far. Next set I want to go to a little higher profile tire.
Old Oct 15, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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I have some nankang 245 35 20 and although a no name tire I am very happy with them so far. Next set I want to go to a little higher profile tire.

nankang and wanli make generic knock off yokohama tires. I had a set of wanli 1099's 235/40/18 and they were amazing.
Old Oct 16, 2007 | 11:55 PM
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Had it not been 'below average' in tread life, the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 at $209 would have been an excellent choice with 'excellent' ratings on both dry and wet braking and hydroplaning.
light, I usually follow Consumer Reports' recommendations. But, in the case of tires for my SE, I followed the advice of my Automotive Engineer friend and bought Michelin Pilot Sports. The tires needed on the SE are enough different from the tires tested by CR, that I don't think (IMHO) you can put too much weight on their results.

My experience (see post #25) has been that Pilot Sports are great all of the time, and particularly in snow. I have 35 K miles on them and expect that they will not need to be replaced until this time next year (about another 12 K miles). This is better tire tread wear than I got with the OEM tires (RSAs) which I had to replace at about 30 K miles -- due to cracks in the sidewalls near the tread.
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Silver_Max - I certainly agree that the results of CU's testing are not always directly applicable to the different tire size we use on the Maxima. I realize that the Michelin 'Sport' tires are fine tires, but it seems every time someone posts here, the letters/numbers that follow the words 'Michelin Sport' are different. Then I find the letters/numbers tested by CU (PS2 for summer, A/S for all-season) are different from the ones I have seen on the ORG. Is Michelin in the process of 'redesignating' their 'Sport' tires? What appears after the words 'Michelin Sport' on your tires? Also, the Michelin Exalto PE2, along with the ContiExtremeContacts, seems to have the best tread wear ratings of any tire CU tested.

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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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Probably gonna buy the Falken Ziex Ze-912's for my 2004 SE. Anybody else running these?
Old Oct 17, 2007 | 05:08 PM
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I keep Pirelli Snowsports for the winter and Pzero Nero for the summer.

Pzeros Im happy with, This is my first season with the snowsports so I dont have enough feedback yet.
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Probably gonna buy the Falken Ziex Ze-912's for my 2004 SE. Anybody else running these?
Look through the tire section here on the org. I was going to buy these until I found out (through several posts) that they aren't the greatest.

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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by lightonthehill
In case there may be a few who are not aware, the Continental ContiExtremeContact tires are a far superior tire to the ContiTouringContact (or whatever the nomenclature was) that came on the 6th generation Maxima SLs. In Consumer Reports testing, the ExtremeContacts gave excellent treadlife, excellent snow performance, and rated average or higher in all eleven tested categories. CU rated it as a 'Best Pick'.

In other words, please clear your minds of the disappointments of the OEM Contis (I felt that pain, also), and consider the ExtremeContact as a very desirable tire. Either it or the Yokohama YK520 would easily be my first choice for a Maxima SL.

If I win the lottery, then I might look at a Michelin Pilot, especially the Exalto PE2 or Sport PS2.
Dear Light,

First of all, I want to say that I appreciate your knowledge and follow your posts very closely, as they are well written and very informative. That being said, I own a Maxima SL and purchased the Yoko 520's thanks to your post. Got them for 400 out the door via the Discount Tire Direct web site (w/free shipping).

I also read all of the reviews (thats 935) of this tire and found the vast majority to be very, very kind to the tire.

The one thing I saw (and took notice to via a review from an owner of a 350z) was that the tire does not handle well - that it has a weak sidewall, and it makes the tire feel mushy and unrefined. However, I also read a great deal of reviews that stated that the performance of the tire was superb.

I am wondering if this was from running too low a psi on the tire? Usually I've been running 34 front 33 rear on my stock SL tires, however this tire has a max load of (correct me if I'm wrong) 55 psi. I'm under the impression that one should run a higher psi for better performance.

Is this a correct assumption for the 520's? And what psi do you run on your tires?

Thank you for your time.

Joshua
Old Oct 18, 2007 | 01:33 AM
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philo - Thanks for the nice words. But keep in mind that you should always screen what I say, as much of it was learned over fifty years ago.

You are correct that the YK520 has a softer sidewall than most tires that might be used on the Maxima. You are also correct that bumping the psi a little will reduce the sidewall flex.

I am currently running 36 psi in front and 35 psi in the rear with my YK520s. I find that still offers a comfortable ride, while giving me better stability and maneuverability than the 33 psi recommended for the SL.

Several times each year, I measure and record tread depth for each groove on each tire. If the center is wearing faster than the edges, I let a pound or two of air out. If the edges are wearing faster than the center, I add a pound or two. Usually, I will reach a point where the wear stays even across the tread. That point could be at any psi, depending on the type of driving, load being carried, how much of the driving is on curvy roads, and at what speed those curves are negotiated.

Of course those interested more in performance than tire wear could up the psi to 38 or so, giving even more maneuverability.

I hope you will be as happy with your YK520s as I am.
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philo - Thanks for the nice words. But keep in mind that you should always screen what I say, as much of it was learned over fifty years ago.

You are correct that the YK520 has a softer sidewall than most tires that might be used on the Maxima. You are also correct that bumping the psi a little will reduce the sidewall flex.

I am currently running 36 psi in front and 35 psi in the rear with my YK520s. I find that still offers a comfortable ride, while giving me better stability and maneuverability than the 33 psi recommended for the SL.

Several times each year, I measure and record tread depth for each groove on each tire. If the center is wearing faster than the edges, I let a pound or two of air out. If the edges are wearing faster than the center, I add a pound or two. Usually, I will reach a point where the wear stays even across the tread. That point could be at any psi, depending on the type of driving, load being carried, how much of the driving is on curvy roads, and at what speed those curves are negotiated.

Of course those interested more in performance than tire wear could up the psi to 38 or so, giving even more maneuverability.

I hope you will be as happy with your YK520s as I am.
Thank you for the information light. I couldn't argue with the 932 reviews on the tire! Of course no tire is perfect, and any tire will have it's pros and cons. I'll shoot you a review once they are on the car. Again, thank you!

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