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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 11:38 AM
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The price that he gave me before was for the 13'' kit, so judging from his response, if I were to want the 14'' then it would be about $400 more. (I edited the price out because I'm sure that shipping varies, size varies, amount of kits purchased varies, and I'm sure he wouldn't want the prices posted everywhere...or maybe he wouldn't mind, but I had an incident before where a vendor PMed me to edit my post. lol )
Sorry I took it as the price was too expensive...
Old Nov 15, 2007 | 11:41 AM
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Sorry I took it as the price was too expensive...
lol...me still

So are you saying that I'm a for wanting these because of the price?
Old Nov 15, 2007 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
...how do you guys think this would look

IMG]http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i129/prjctphotos/car/bbk.jpg[/IMG]

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in these...

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8POT front
6POT rear

I like the orange look because it is definitely something different and imo, it's a little more subtle than red, yet still pops out.

Let the comments begin!
It will be a nice contrast between the orange and dark grey, it'll match your amber lense too in your headlight seems like they look sweet...



Why are you so concerned about looks though, I think the better question is how they would perform lol.... not too many reviews on this kit.

I read that the ebrake functionality will be lost with these . Then you won't be able to do sweet drifts in the snow .
Old Nov 15, 2007 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by xoomer.com
8-Pot is not an overkill. The pots are smaller for a reason. 8 pots does not mean twice 4 pots, it just means the pad is longer and the pressure is distributed more evenly. I even remember that when we put on my brothers 6-Pot wilwoods the pots were different sizes for even clamp and wear. If you can afford it go for it.
These pistons are small and only put the pressure in the center of the pads/discs; versus Wilwoods staggered with large and small pistons. So will there be any advantage?
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These pistons are small and only put the pressure in the center of the pads/discs; versus Wilwoods staggered with large and small pistons. So will there be any advantage?
staggered is better and race proven.
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Dan, why bother. Pads at $200 and more for race version, thats ridiculous. Wilwood pads are easy to buy at any racing supplier (Jegs, Summit) and cost around $70.00 and they come in 20 different flavors.

BTW, Looks like this company is only going for number of pots rather then size/ratio. Wilwood is race proven technology and their staggered pot design really makes sense.

Plus, you only have to remove one bolt in order to change pads and we all know how much time this is going to save you at the pit.
Old Nov 15, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by xoomer.com
staggered is better and race proven.
Right. So 8-pots are just for looks, given equal in quality.
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I love my 4 POT Rotoras they are staggered piston sizes as well. I have 2 bolts held in place by carter pins for removing the pads, simple as can be.

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Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
Bernard-What's the thickness of the rotors on your brother's car?
1.25 inch
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Dan, I'm not a fan of the ksport setup for a few reasons:
1. it's really not "proven" over the long term - who knows how it will hold up.
2. ksports quality control record is not the greatest - just look at all the issus with their coilovers
3. do they have stainless pistons? If not, stay away. Otherwise you'll be spending alot of $$ on rebuilds when they rust
4. all those pistons does seem like overkill to me.

I would lean toward a wilwood kit (proven on thousands and thousands of cars) or the z32 setup (had a few issues, but we seem to have figured them all out).

that, and I don't really like the orange
Old Nov 15, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by xoomer.com
Dan, why bother. Pads at $200 and more for race version, thats ridiculous. Wilwood pads are easy to buy at any racing supplier (Jegs, Summit) and cost around $70.00 and they come in 20 different flavors.

BTW, Looks like this company is only going for number of pots rather then size/ratio. Wilwood is race proven technology and their staggered pot design really makes sense.

Plus, you only have to remove one bolt in order to change pads and we all know how much time this is going to save you at the pit.
agreed....though not all the wilwoods have staggered pistons (my superlites don't). There are alot of wilwood models depending on how mch you want to spend.

Pad selection for the wilwoods is excellent, too. Hawk HPS for the superlites cost less than OEM pads do
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Originally Posted by irish44j
Dan, I'm not a fan of the ksport setup for a few reasons:
1. it's really not "proven" over the long term - who knows how it will hold up.
2. ksports quality control record is not the greatest - just look at all the issus with their coilovers
3. do they have stainless pistons? If not, stay away. Otherwise you'll be spending alot of $$ on rebuilds when they rust
4. all those pistons does seem like overkill to me.

I would lean toward a wilwood kit (proven on thousands and thousands of cars) or the z32 setup (had a few issues, but we seem to have figured them all out).

that, and I don't really like the orange
Did you ever work out the squeel? I have a feeling its the pads. I have a squeel only when I start abusing them and they heat up. I think I will put wilwood street pads soon.
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Did you ever work out the squeel? I have a feeling its the pads. I have a squeel only when I start abusing them and they heat up. I think I will put wilwood street pads soon.
Yeah I figured out the problem...just hadn't bedded them hard enough.

The wilwoods are off for the winter. I drive in alot of road salt going skiing so I prefer the peace of mind of using the z32 calipers which have outer piston dust seals. I'll put the wilwoods back on in the spring.
Old Nov 15, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
Yeah I figured out the problem...just hadn't bedded them hard enough.

The wilwoods are off for the winter. I drive in alot of road salt going skiing so I prefer the peace of mind of using the z32 calipers which have outer piston dust seals. I'll put the wilwoods back on in the spring.
wow..... your the only person i know who has a winter and summer bbk... baller!
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Why are you so concerned about looks though, I think the better question is how they would perform lol.... not too many reviews on this kit.

I read that the ebrake functionality will be lost with these. Then you won't be able to do sweet drifts in the snow.
"I like to have my cake and eat it too!" referring to the looks part

hmmmmm on the e-brake, and kind of more of a that I actually see the orange on a dark car now...First BBK I ever liked was WilWood because of the stealthy black calipers

K-Sport=0

WilWood=1

Originally Posted by xoomer.com
staggered is better and race proven.
K-Sport=0

WilWood=2

Originally Posted by xoomer.com
Dan, why bother. Pads at $200 and more for race version, thats ridiculous. Wilwood pads are easy to buy at any racing supplier (Jegs, Summit) and cost around $70.00 and they come in 20 different flavors.

BTW, Looks like this company is only going for number of pots rather then size/ratio. Wilwood is race proven technology and their staggered pot design really makes sense.

Plus, you only have to remove one bolt in order to change pads and we all know how much time this is going to save you at the pit.
K-Sport=0

WilWood=3

Your brother's BBK was 13.6, and you said that fastbrakes only supplies 13.25 rotors now?

Originally Posted by JoesRedMax
I love my 4 POT Rotoras they are staggered piston sizes as well. I have 2 bolts held in place by carter pins for removing the pads, simple as can be.
Much respect to you, but red is not my color, and I'm liking the WilWood rotors better than the Rotoras...drilled vs. drilled/slotted...oh, and the pricing

K-Sport=0

Rotora=0

WilWood=4

Originally Posted by kamilkluczewski
1.25 inch
What's that converted into mm?...

Originally Posted by irish44j
Dan, I'm not a fan of the ksport setup for a few reasons:
1. it's really not "proven" over the long term - who knows how it will hold up.
2. ksports quality control record is not the greatest - just look at all the issus with their coilovers
3. do they have stainless pistons? If not, stay away. Otherwise you'll be spending alot of $$ on rebuilds when they rust
4. all those pistons does seem like overkill to me.

I would lean toward a wilwood kit (proven on thousands and thousands of cars) or the z32 setup (had a few issues, but we seem to have figured them all out).

that, and I don't really like the orange
1. I was worried about this from the start, since there aren't too many people with these.
2. Wasn't too aware of this, but thanks for the update!
3. Not sure
4. But they look cool! lol

K-Sport=0

Rotora=0

WilWood=5

Originally Posted by irish44j
Pad selection for the wilwoods is excellent, too. Hawk HPS for the superlites cost less than OEM pads do
FTMFW!!!

K-sport=0

Rotora=0

WilWood=6

Originally Posted by redmaxpa007
wow..... your the only person i know who has a winter and summer bbk...baller
If and when I get my BBK, I think that I would be the same...paired with my Z32 track wheels!

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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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Final verdict...

...K-sport FTL

...Rotora FTL

...WilWood FTMFW with a shut-out of 6-0! (That's almost as bad as the Packers shutting out the Vikings 34-0! )

Time for a little more research on WilWood and money saving

thanks to all!
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Also...if I were to get the 6POT 13.6 fronts and 4POT rear from WilWood, then what rotor size should I get for the rears? Same, or smaller?
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Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
Also...if I were to get the 6POT 13.6 fronts and 4POT rear from WilWood, then what rotor size should I get for the rears? Same, or smaller?
EBD, at least the same size as stock.
Old Nov 15, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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EBD, at least the same size as stock.
EBD?

So 13.6 front and 12.9 rear would be good without any bias problems?
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1" = 25.4mm so 1.25" is about 32mm
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Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
Also...if I were to get the 6POT 13.6 fronts and 4POT rear from WilWood, then what rotor size should I get for the rears? Same, or smaller?
If u allways cary your spare tire and sheet in the trunk, 12inch or bigger.

The size of the rotor wont matter as much as the size of the pots. Even witha 15" rotor in the rear and small pots you can have equal brake distribution but with greater cooling.

I will be installing 13.25" or 13.6" rear BBK for next track season.

Dont worry about the rear size of the rotor, just make sure the FRONT/REAR brake bias in unafacted. Rotor size has a tiny... marginal amount to do with that, the pot size makes the biggest diference.

Let me know if u have any questions as I was the first one to have the 6th gen WILWOOD BBK on my car and tried 3 different sizes of calipers to make it work perfect.

Also for winter use, have no fear, the Wilwood Calipers are made to such tight tolerances its very very rare that you may experience a problem with the pistons.

All the best and shoot a question if you have any.

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Originally Posted by DeusExMaxima
1" = 25.4mm so 1.25" is about 32mm
Gotcha. Do you know how thick the stock rotors are?

Kamski-PM has been sended to you

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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 12:30 AM
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Good stuff......BBK behind the wheels are one of the most important look for a mod car.
Old Nov 16, 2007 | 02:58 AM
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That's almost as bad as the Packers shutting out the Vikings 34-0! )
You know if there is no one I feel more sorry for, it's for Rex Grossman. Hey how about him starting this week, I got a feeling he is going to turn this season around into fairytale. Chicago is bringing sexy back.
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You know if there is no one I feel more sorry for, it's for Rex Grossman. Hey how about him starting this week, I got a feeling he is going to turn this season around into fairytale. Chicago is bringing sexy back.
. . . .

Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
Do you know how thick the stock rotors are?
28mm . . .
Old Nov 17, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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They will look awesome. To bad you will have wasted your money. You will never need 1/4 of the stopping power they will provide. OVERKILL!! Save your money.
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They will look awesome. To bad you will have wasted your money. You will never need 1/4 of the stopping power they will provide. OVERKILL!! Save your money.
At least try to read through the entire thread before posting, just to get your 15 up!
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whatever you decide, some one will say something negative about it... soooooooo personal preference...


4,6, or 8 pot......
Old Nov 18, 2007 | 07:21 AM
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skc[/left];6077686]They will look awesome. To bad you will have wasted your money. You will never need 1/4 of the stopping power they will provide. OVERKILL!! Save your money.
Most people don't need 10 TV's and a Million Watt amp with 22 inch speakers, play stations (I rob you/I add weight!!!) either, but the have them (and to each his own, not judging)...

At least with this setup I'm enhancing a safety feature and shaving weight from the car...

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They will look awesome. To bad you will have wasted your money. You will never need 1/4 of the stopping power they will provide. OVERKILL!! Save your money.
I use my wilwoods all the time at Mosport DDT, from stock to Wilwood BBK is a huuuuge improvement. And you know that 14 feet shorter stopin distance is the difference between a new front end and no damage at all.

Thanks for stopping by skc.

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They look sweet, if you have the money do it, you only live once
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Anyhow, I had some time with my brother so we took couple of new pics of the BBK installed so here they are...

I should have used some armorall but in sub 30s weather didn't feel like touching anything.



4-POT On RotoPros Rotors.



Little Close-up



He needs to do some cleaning but yeah, you get the idea.
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Lookin' good Xoomer. And for skc, if I had a BBK setup, it almost definitely would've prevented this! So IMHO not a waste of money at all.

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Hey Bernard...are your brother's calipers fading?
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that **** is going to look sexy
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Hey Bernard...are your brother's calipers fading?
No, they just have to be cleaned and with 30 degrees around nobody wanted to do any of that stuff. His calipers are somewhat glossy black and you can see dirt on it more then on my satin black calipers.
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I think the better question is how they would perform
They'll perform as good as the tires that are stopping them. Jesus Mack, happened?
Old Nov 21, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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They'll perform as good as the tires that are stopping them.
I'm thinking of Toyo Proxes 1...opinions?
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I posted this somewhere else but I'll post this here cause its related.

I had to file off about 1mm at the OEM mounting points as per drawing I am attaching. I only had to do it on one side as the other side was already that much smaller. Chances are you won't have to do it on your car.

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So besides that minor mishap, are both f/r kits a direct bolt-on?



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