IS something like this worth it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BURNO...spagenameZWDVW

 

Very glad to be the first to comment before the knockoff bashers arrive. I bought one of these and put it on and am VERY happy with it. Its not too loud, Looks great, fits perfect and sounds great. I actually took a before video but ran out of batteries before i could do an after shot. when the car arrives here in Germany, I will take an after video and post them here. p.m. me so I dont forget. If anyone else had a before and after video, feel free.

 

hmmm ok, eagerly waiting the video I guess.

 

the car is slated to arrive on the 27th. got my fingeres crossed, heard it could be late...

 

MMM interested in when it get there also. If the sytem acually fits right and is not too loud I would definitly invest in this half the price as everything eles.

 

well, i can definately vouch for the ease of installation, it only took about an hour and half from start to finish, this included beer and smoke breaks. as for the sound, you will have to be the judge. i think its nice and mellow, but once the CAI kicks in, you cant hear anything else.

 

Running a complete 2.5" cat back causes decrease in exhaust speed.
You will loose torque from this application.

 

not disputing what you say, matt, but this system elinates that awful crimp at the y. dont you think that crimp would reduce exhaust flow?

 

It does, but not as much as oversizing your system, that's a HUGE mistake.
Quality wise, that exhaust is made in china.

 

Cattman has done the 2.5 all the way back. The crimp in the stock exhaust is terrible. Anything will be an improvement.

 

I think that it is 2.25 then 2.5 Hillbe. not 2.5 all the way back. the FReddy is 2.5 all the way I beleive

 

that crimp is rediculous. I agree with Hilbe that anything is better then the stock crap we have. And about the whole China remark, I suppose greddy is superior to this system because its made in japan? All I know is that these systems look indentical when paired side by side in pictures. I doubt anyone here could spot the difference from 5 feet away with the exception of greddy being there on the tips. No disrespect intended to anyone here, I love the greddy stuff, but in this case I think the name brand is whats being paid for. One more thing, how can opening a system after the cats "too much" be worse for exhaust speed then cramming it all through a tiny crimp? Anyway, all im saying is that it looks good, goes on easy, and is cheap as hell, which I think is this guys main concern.

If you cannot wait until I post my after video, and have to buy this system, buy this one. Its the same exact system I bought for much cheaper for some reason. I thought it was funny when I unwrapped it and it was the same burnout system i was looking at for the same $37? before I bought the one I have now. the seller is pleasant to deal with also. very good comunication.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/04-05...spagenameZWDVW

 

When I called Cattman about the piping to get another resonator he told me 2.5.

 

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ya... china is in deep **** with QC issues...

 

Cattman is not 2.5", he said it himself, it's 2" or similar from the Y pipe splitting into the mufflers.

Are you aware of the manufacturing standards in Japan versus China?
It's not because both are asian systems that both suck, Greddy makes great quality, no name rebranded China crap do not.

You are better off going custom and manufacturing your own system.

 

Sorry, its 2.5 from front Y to back Y. Then 1.875 or so on both pipes after that. I can't remember exactly on the muffler pipes. I do know its not 2 inch straight pipe. The stock straight pipe was 2 inches, I measured it. Cattman straight pipe is 2.5 inches.

 

Originally Posted by Matt@Remus
Cattman is not 2.5", he said it himself, it's 2" or similar from the Y pipe splitting into the mufflers.

We're both right

 

PLUS: they may be full of lead too!

 

dont buy it. those stuff suck. buy greddy sp2

 

Why would I spend Twice as much on a name if this system is 2.50 inches back with not crimps why would it not be worth it hell you cpuld even keep the stock mufflers if you wanted and still only spend 270$. I think its worth it cosidering a custom shop chargeds 525-550 to make a sytem. Lets see howe the sound clip sounds, and made in China so what if it lasts 3 years you get your moneys worth not I lot of us keep our cars for more than 3-4 years anyway.

 

Then buy the ebay set-up, no money/performance lost.

 

How is there perormence lost? Its basicaly the same as any name brand with differnet mufflers right. 2.5 is made by Greddy, cattman, ect, am I wrong? I dont understand why you would have to pay $900 for exhaust when you can pay $300 for the same set up it might not last as long but hp wise it's the same.

 

There's SO much more to exhaust design that 2 tubes and 2 mufflers.
You're right, the Chinese knock is a greddy replica, however Cattman's muffler is MUCH more R&D'ed than anything else on the market for the 6th gen today.

It's NOT the same HP wise, not the same sound wise, not the same look side.

Once you'll receive it and hold it in your hands you'll clearly see the difference, look at those tips, they look like tuna cans.

 

I believe he is saying there is not a performance difference if you don't care about longevity. But if other products are any indication of china's build/material quality long life might not be the issue. An exhaust system moves around a lot and is subject to plenty of flexing. Weak chinese steel may crack or split where the better made items will absorb the impact or bend instead. Anyone who knows how annoying an exhaust leak or split muffler can be would keep that in mind. Those Magnaflow polished Mufflers with tips look awesome and the stainless should last a long time, but are pricey.

 

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sounds like a good deal I would get it.

 

at $199, i was extremely pleased. i understand im no exhaust pro, im just a dude who likes to put aftermarket things on his car and have fun with it. we will see what everyone thinks of the sound clip. to each their own though, some will like it, some will want to vomit im sure.

 

When did I ever say there was a performance loss

 

Then what does NO money/performance lost mean then, ??

 

No money/performance lost = You buy the cheaper eBay system and lose nothing vs buying the expensive piece.

 

for all you newbs, listen to the man... there are only little gains from cat-back exhaust. your not going to see 15hp gains like they advertised. its mostly for sound and you might gain 5hp or less from it. so what Nmex is saying that, you cant really lose from getting the cheaper one. there are probably little or no difference from this one and the greddy one.

 

Here's my take/theory:
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...2&postcount=12

For you 6th genners, b-pipe in 5th gen language = intermediate pipe (more widely known, and universally used. It is the pipe in between the cat and mufflers.

 

NmexMAX Here's my take/theory:

If you want power, get headers, nothing more. If you want tone, get a b-pipe, if you want sound, get a muffler, if you want rasp, get a test pipe, if you want noise, get all of the above.

Ahhh, words of wisdom. I love your post NmexMax.

I'm waiting to HEAR the sound clips and feedback on how much drone.

I would love to hear how that catback system sounds both inside & outside the car.

Please post it as soon as you can maxinuff. We would really appreciate it.

 

ok, fair enough. as soon as the car gets out of inspection, i will pull the car into my garage half way (i have the same sized garage here as i did in tennessee), and get my long awaited after shot. then, ill take her out on the autobahn and shoot an inside the vehicle video. but as anyone with an intake knows im sure, once she hits 5k or so, intake will be all you hear. ill do various vids, one of crusing at 55 or so, one of accelerating, and one of top speed hopefully. and like i said, im not expecting everyone to like this, but if it will help clear this up, i will be glad to help.

heres a side by side pic of the aftermarket and ebay system. (and the only pic i have of the beast with her new shoes on ) if you look close, you can see that godawful crimp....yuck...

 

Id like to be the first to say that that is badass that you are taking the max on the autobahn. I am more interested to see the pics and vid of your ride on the autobahn instead of the exhaust...sweeeeeeeeet.

 

thanks. i have 4 years of it. i think its really awesome. unfortunately, the top speed video might have to wait, because i had my tires replaced in october under the warranty and the set they gave me sucks more *** then the ones i had. i have a horrible wobble at 50. im fighting with goodyear because they say i voided any implied warranty by having them mounted on those wheels in the picture. they are the same exact size as the stock rim, that tire doesnt know the difference...it feels like i have a busted belt or two, you can even see that a couple of them are out-of-round on the balance machine, but they insist it is the wheels. even after i had the wheels checked and they turned out perfect. so since i am here, my dad is fighting the battle for me. hopefully ill find out in a week or two.

 

That's a Greddy knock off...that y-pipe isn't smooth at all.

 

yeah, i said the same thing. so did the dude who crawled under my car at the gas station to look at the y-pipe to make sure i wasnt reppin' greddy falsely.

 

A friend of mine got this exhaust and it actually sounds pretty good. He had a resonator delete as well.

 

I'm about to add a Vibrant Ultra Quiet Resonator to my Cattman exhaust. Its a tad loud inside for my tastes, so hopefully that does the trick. Cattman's resonator appears to be bigger than the Greddy (or knock off). I am wondering how loud the passenger cabin gets with that exhaust...