6th Generation Maxima (2004-2008) Discussion of the 6th generation Maxima. Come see what others are saying.

Brake Upgrade

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-17-2009, 10:05 AM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
eK9aT10pSi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,152
Brake Upgrade

hey guys, i bought the complete rotorpros brake kit with hawk hps pads and ss brake lines a while ago. spring break is now so i figured i finally get these installed [and for my other thread, get an exhaust sound clip].

my question is what is the order to bleed the brake lines?

3rd 4th
0------0
| |
| |
| |
| |
0------0
1st 2nd
eK9aT10pSi is offline  
Old 03-17-2009, 10:35 AM
  #2  
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (1)
 
DeusExMaxima's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Upland CA
Posts: 7,353
RR, LR, RF, LF
DeusExMaxima is offline  
Old 03-17-2009, 10:38 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
MAX2DAMAX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,684
make sure you pump the brake several times before you open the bleeder valves, and disconnect the abs module too.
MAX2DAMAX is offline  
Old 03-17-2009, 03:45 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Shoey1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 539
longest brake line to shortest brake line. like Dues said most cars are RR, LR, RF, LF.
Shoey1 is offline  
Old 03-17-2009, 06:32 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
Kryogen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,531
How/where do you disconnect the ABS module
Kryogen is offline  
Old 03-17-2009, 08:06 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
My-Body-Is-Ready's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 589
cute diagram. and yeah what dues said
My-Body-Is-Ready is offline  
Old 03-17-2009, 09:18 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
eK9aT10pSi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,152
lol, it wouldve looked better if it didnt autodelete whitespace, lol. so pretty much i had it backwards. thanks guys! ill make sure to post pix if anyone wants to see, lol.

4th 3rd
0------0
| |
| |
| |
| |
0------0
2nd 1st
eK9aT10pSi is offline  
Old 03-18-2009, 08:18 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
thealliance43's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 568
i put on my rotor pros with the hawk pads... is it recommended to bleed your system or is that just because hes got the stainless steal lines?
thealliance43 is offline  
Old 03-18-2009, 11:12 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
BLACKNESS MONSTA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 643
Exhaust clip is more important
BLACKNESS MONSTA is offline  
Old 03-21-2009, 10:38 PM
  #10  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
eK9aT10pSi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,152
hey guys, finished the rotors, pads, & ss brake lines install!! as an extra, i also installed 15mm wheel spacers too!!

now to my problem, i bled my brakes pass rear, driver rear, pass front, & driver front. it seems that the car still isnt stopping like it should [i know its subjective but i mean at least better than stock]. i bled each wheel at least 20 times.

and my other problem is that with the spacers, the rear rubs when you go over speed bumps. i am assuming my options are roll the fender or cut out that inner lip. what do you guys suggest?

thanks again!!!

p.s. pix up soon.

blackness monsta, sorry for the delay, stil trying when i get a chance; finding someone to borrow their vid cam is a PITA.

thealliance43, yes, its b/c the ss brake lines. if you just did the pads and rotors, you dont have to but you may as well imo, not too much extra time. its good cause it purges out some of the fluid and maybe some air pockets as well.

Last edited by eK9aT10pSi; 03-21-2009 at 10:41 PM.
eK9aT10pSi is offline  
Old 03-22-2009, 02:11 PM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
Kryogen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,531
Imo the max brakes feel mushy all the time, I dont know why... my mom's 2002 sentra braked way beter.


If therte's no more air in the lines, it wont get better by bleeding...

9. Bleed the brake hydraulic system air bleeder valves in the following order:
Right rear brake ->Left front brake ->Left rear brake ->Right front brake



Last edited by Kryogen; 03-23-2009 at 07:38 AM.
Kryogen is offline  
Old 03-22-2009, 02:24 PM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
mightymax5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Mchenry IL 60051
Posts: 139
Hello! I want to buy f/r vented rotors for my 05 max and see a set 2007-2008 from rotorpros will these fit ? Can someone tell me the right part number and what they paid with hawk or axxis pads? Is there a ceramic brake pad option as they tend to have less brake dust? I have to get these ASAP as my brakes and rotors are just starting to lightly grind.

Last edited by mightymax5; 03-22-2009 at 02:32 PM.
mightymax5 is offline  
Old 03-22-2009, 03:58 PM
  #13  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
eK9aT10pSi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,152
kryogen, i did the order a different way from what ppl told me earlier in the thread, pass rear, driver rear, pass front, driver front.

mightymax5, id email rotorpros, just tell your year, make model and what you want and he'll make u a deal. i went with the hawk hps pads. also, i got the ss brake lines.
eK9aT10pSi is offline  
Old 03-22-2009, 06:07 PM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
mightymax5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Mchenry IL 60051
Posts: 139
rotors

The rotors you bought are they vented?
mightymax5 is offline  
Old 03-22-2009, 08:04 PM
  #15  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
STARR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: NY
Posts: 2,466
How do the brakes actually feel, pedal feel, now take it on the highway at night, or whenever there is no traffic and take it up to 60-80 and stand on the brake, bring it down to 30 and repeat like 5 times

Bed the brakes in, your rotors should have a bluish glaze or sparkle, which is the brake pad grabbing the rotors

edit: forgot to mention, when you do brakes and you take it for a spin the car feels like it's not stopping, it's a lovely feeling but it will pass and the brakes improve with every mile, give it some mileage but bed the brakes in properly
STARR is offline  
Old 03-22-2009, 09:55 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
eK9aT10pSi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,152
mightymax5: yes, they are xdrilled & slotted. the fronts are vented and the rears are solid.

starr: i feel a difference but i there might still be some air or not enough fluid. when i press the pedal, its like a pssshh sound. for breaking in the brakes, ive always heard you should drive normally and not too hard for ~250 miles or so to let them break in, i.e. hot/cold cycling so they dont glaze.

i also noticed that as well as i was driving more it felt better [i felt that was subjective so i threw that idea out] that it was maybe stopping quicker. no more vibration when braking!!!

on another note, pos oem rotors were apparantly warped.
eK9aT10pSi is offline  
Old 03-22-2009, 11:44 PM
  #17  
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
whitem1ke88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 322
Uhh you guys sure about the bleed order? My nissan service manual says Left Rear, Right Front, Right Rear, Left Front
whitem1ke88 is offline  
Old 03-23-2009, 07:38 AM
  #18  
Senior Member
 
Kryogen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,531
I gave you whats written in the nissan factory manual for the 04 max. Probably wont make a difference anyway, but just so you know.
Kryogen is offline  
Old 03-23-2009, 01:23 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
eK9aT10pSi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,152
i guess i am going to redo the bleed order then this weekend. by any chance, if you don't mind, what page is it on? again, thanks for the updated info. maybe that's why its feeling funny.
eK9aT10pSi is offline  
Old 05-12-2009, 10:26 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
eK9aT10pSi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,152
update: let the breaks brake in for a bit. the stopping power seems worse than stock. on a side note, ive read before that the ss lines can be the culprit. only thing i dont know is how to test to see where the problem may be coming from. any ideas? TIA
eK9aT10pSi is offline  
Old 05-12-2009, 10:53 PM
  #21  
Senior Member
 
BLACKNESS MONSTA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 643
What type of brake fluid are u using? DOT 5?
BLACKNESS MONSTA is offline  
Old 05-13-2009, 03:33 AM
  #22  
Supporting Maxima.org Member
 
CanadianMoFo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,336
When I added just the SS lines the pedal feel improved. It firmed it up quite a bit.

CM
CanadianMoFo is offline  
Old 05-13-2009, 08:14 PM
  #23  
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
addicted2pain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Biloxi, MS
Posts: 94
I am thinking about getting a set from rotorpros as soon as I can fit them in the budget. I am curious if the gold or black zinc plating wears of quickly. Is there enough plating thickness for the color to stick around for awhile?
addicted2pain is offline  
Old 05-13-2009, 08:45 PM
  #24  
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
thealliance43's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 568
it sticks around for about a month or two... then it goes... my brakes are kinda mushy but my girls altima coupe brakes like a dream... and she just has stock rotors and brakes... don't really know why the maxima doesn't brake like that
thealliance43 is offline  
Old 05-13-2009, 09:41 PM
  #25  
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (1)
 
DeusExMaxima's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Upland CA
Posts: 7,353
Originally Posted by thealliance43
it sticks around for about a month or two... then it goes... my brakes are kinda mushy but my girls altima coupe brakes like a dream... and she just has stock rotors and brakes... don't really know why the maxima doesn't brake like that
My Maxima has always has mushy feeling brakes. I have 300zx tt calipers and Hawk HP+ pads with SS lines its still mushy. Go figure.
DeusExMaxima is offline  
Old 05-13-2009, 11:02 PM
  #26  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
eK9aT10pSi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,152
i am using valvoline synthetic brake fluid. i believe its dot3
eK9aT10pSi is offline  
Old 05-13-2009, 11:57 PM
  #27  
Senior Member
 
BLACKNESS MONSTA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 643
Originally Posted by eK9aT10pSi
i am using valvoline synthetic brake fluid. i believe its dot3
I was talking to my mech about brake upgrades and he said u wont truly feel much difference unless u go with DOT 5
BLACKNESS MONSTA is offline  
Old 05-14-2009, 04:27 AM
  #28  
Senior Member
 
Kryogen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,531
The max brakes are mushy and I hate it but what can we do anyway
Kryogen is offline  
Old 05-14-2009, 09:19 AM
  #29  
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Oolatec's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Chicago suburbs
Posts: 1,578
Originally Posted by Kryogen
The max brakes are mushy and I hate it but what can we do anyway
Mine aren't mushy at all.
Oolatec is offline  
Old 05-14-2009, 01:57 PM
  #30  
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
VigilanteMax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: ATL
Posts: 1,442
Originally Posted by BLACKNESS MONSTA
I was talking to my mech about brake upgrades and he said u wont truly feel much difference unless u go with DOT 5
Wouldnt do this as dot 5 way out of our cars necessity due to its high temp tolerance and also very hard to bleed these. not recommended for ABS. No reason to go above dot 4 in any car on the street, however I have the valvoline dot3-4 synthetic and mine work fine. I also have the 300zx TT and have to clean them regularly due to my slotted rotor eating my pads up.
VigilanteMax is offline  
Old 05-14-2009, 04:09 PM
  #31  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
eK9aT10pSi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,152
i used to use valvoline syn brake fluid but autozone stopped selling it and this was the alternative.
eK9aT10pSi is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
BPuff57
Advanced Suspension, Chassis, and Braking
33
04-16-2020 05:15 AM
leatherneck
4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999)
1
09-30-2015 09:16 PM
HerpDerp1919
3rd Generation Maxima (1989-1994)
2
09-29-2015 02:02 PM
Socalstillen
4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999)
1
09-26-2015 12:01 PM



Quick Reply: Brake Upgrade



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:03 AM.