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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 10:52 PM
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Advice Needed On Coilovers

what do you recommend based on *comfort *adjustability and *reliability
on the following * *Ksport and *BC racing and Why. any feedback is appreciated also feel free to post pics thanks for your time.

*took TEINS off the list based on the drop rate for the fronts its only 2.2 looking to go lower

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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 04:56 AM
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Ever think about Megan Racings Street Series Coilovers? Everybody seems to think they are a BC's design, but you put them side by side with a set of Apexi N1 CO's they look just a like. Just something to think about.
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OP, there are a lot of threads on this...search a little.

But, FWIW, the Tein Basics aren't going to work if you're looking for the ability to lower the car down.

Most people prefer the BC's, because they're a little more durable, supposedly. I had Ksports on my 5th gen, and they rode great. Customer service was top-notch any time I called them, too.
Old Nov 10, 2011 | 09:00 AM
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Ever think about Megan Racings Street Series Coilovers? Everybody seems to think they are a BC's design, but you put them side by side with a set of Apexi N1 CO's they look just a like. Just something to think about.
actually didnt went towards the most popular based on memebers rides on the org. do u have this particular model
Old Nov 10, 2011 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Brett
OP, there are a lot of threads on this...search a little.

But, FWIW, the Tein Basics aren't going to work if you're looking for the ability to lower the car down.

Most people prefer the BC's, because they're a little more durable, supposedly. I had Ksports on my 5th gen, and they rode great. Customer service was top-notch any time I called them, too.
i already searched a ton but its a hard choice i wanted to get pesonal info< hope u guys dont mind. on the tein note i was gonna order those but saw the drop rate for the front and was dissapointed. so i guess its either KSPORT or BC RACING. ive searched many memebrs threads that are on kport and bc was hoping they could chime in with their honest opinions.
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i have D2's on my car and they feel awesome ... no regrets or complaints
Old Nov 10, 2011 | 09:28 AM
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i have D2's on my car and they feel awesome ... no regrets or complaints
those are fabricated in the same factory as ksports right. ive heard that they are very similar if im not mistaken.
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yes they are ...

i like them but then again im still even with them sitting at probably the same height as a drop spring cause of my traction rod's and my y pipe is too big and still scrapes everywhere and i have big tires in the front so i keep them stiff

so im not really dropped too low on em and they still feel awesome
Old Nov 10, 2011 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by blackmax6thgen
actually didnt went towards the most popular based on memebers rides on the org. do u have this particular model
Yea, I got a set on my car. There just like every other coilover on the market for max's. It just all depends on what brand you want to put on your ride bro.
Old Nov 10, 2011 | 12:56 PM
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I had D2 coilovers before, and they do go really low, but they are a harsh ride. I bet Megan, ksports will be the same. Teins will be a smother ride.
Old Nov 10, 2011 | 12:58 PM
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Found a set of Megans for $850 shipped.

http://www.jmautoracing.com/megan-ra...s-p-16583.html
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I choose BCs and I love em, but sure Megans, and D2s will be good also K sports I heard some good and some bad....GL...
Old Nov 10, 2011 | 06:37 PM
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yes they are ...

i like them but then again im still even with them sitting at probably the same height as a drop spring cause of my traction rod's and my y pipe is too big and still scrapes everywhere and i have big tires in the front so i keep them stiff

so im not really dropped too low on em and they still feel awesome
what brand y pipe u got going?? i was dropped on tein springs for about a month then switched to progress, but i dont want a gap at all i wanna be dropped low
Old Nov 10, 2011 | 06:39 PM
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Yea, I got a set on my car. There just like every other coilover on the market for max's. It just all depends on what brand you want to put on your ride bro.
i heard some good and bad from the two i narrowed down to which are bc and ksport...never really heard much of those megan though i appreciate u chiming in to help.
Old Nov 10, 2011 | 06:50 PM
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I had D2 coilovers before, and they do go really low, but they are a harsh ride. I bet Megan, ksports will be the same. Teins will be a smother ride.
the teins won me over until i found the lowering rate was only 2.2 im really trying to go lower than that.should be ksport or BC.. what coilovers are u dropped on??? ur ride looks good i like the clean look..i might go for the Tc lip next summer also
Old Nov 10, 2011 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Rods03Max619
I choose BCs and I love em, but sure Megans, and D2s will be good also K sports I heard some good and some bad....GL...
thanks bro i heard some bad and good on those ksports i guess it depends on driving habits..however BC have good positive feedback, all the bad stuff i heard is that some nut comes loose..whats ur experience with BC.
Old Nov 10, 2011 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by blackmax6thgen
i heard some good and bad from the two i narrowed down to which are bc and ksport...never really heard much of those megan though i appreciate u chiming in to help.
Either set you get you'll be happy. Coilovers are best way to go for the best drop and handling. You well be amazed how CO's change ever aspect of the experience of driving your max.
Old Nov 10, 2011 | 09:53 PM
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D2's, Megans, Ksports and BCs are nearly the same.

They're pretty much all produced in the same plant, with the same rebound rates, etc. etc.

All I've heard is that maybe BCs are designed a little beefier or something, hence the higher price. I'm not sure. I liked my Ksports when I had them, though.
Old Nov 10, 2011 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by blackmax6thgen
the teins won me over until i found the lowering rate was only 2.2 im really trying to go lower than that.should be ksport or BC.. what coilovers are u dropped on??? ur ride looks good i like the clean look..i might go for the Tc lip next summer also
Im on JIC's now, big upgrade from my old D2 setup
Old Nov 11, 2011 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by blackmax6thgen
thanks bro i heard some bad and good on those ksports i guess it depends on driving habits..however BC have good positive feedback, all the bad stuff i heard is that some nut comes loose..whats ur experience with BC.
Love them way better than my Tokico Blues and Eibach Springs for sure and they go pretty Damn Low, handles corners real well, I used to think big wow up and down adjustability, but hell I didnt know what I was missing on these...Great Buy and no Nuts so far are loose, got mine off JMAuto in the Vendor Section might have a sale still going on...

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Originally Posted by blackmax6thgen
what brand y pipe u got going?? i was dropped on tein springs for about a month then switched to progress, but i dont want a gap at all i wanna be dropped low

i have a custom headers and y pipe i had gotten made ... its quite big lol
Old Nov 13, 2011 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Rods03Max619
Love them way better than my Tokico Blues and Eibach Springs for sure and they go pretty Damn Low, handles corners real well, I used to think big wow up and down adjustability, but hell I didnt know what I was missing on these...Great Buy and no Nuts so far are loose, got mine off JMAuto in the Vendor Section might have a sale still going on...
sounds goo bro thanks for the feed back i still go some time to save up and think about it, but im leaning towards the BC's
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i have a custom headers and y pipe i had gotten made ... its quite big lol
what a relieve im planning on the racing line y-pipe and high flow pre cats for the summer and didnt want any issues once dropped on coilovers...
Old Nov 13, 2011 | 09:27 AM
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well i'm dropped on teins ss, and i love them and like with any coilover if you go real low the ride is going to be harsh, if you are planning to go lower than 2.2" in the front you might as well get bags
Old Nov 13, 2011 | 10:36 AM
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well i'm dropped on teins ss, and i love them and like with any coilover if you go real low the ride is going to be harsh, if you are planning to go lower than 2.2" in the front you might as well get bags
ur right on the ride being harsh..except i cant afford bags. is ur max slammed on those teins or can it go lower from that pic...i pm a few members that i know are on ksports and BC hopefuly i get good feedback..
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ur right on the ride being harsh..except i cant afford bags. is ur max slammed on those teins or can it go lower from that pic...i pm a few members that i know are on ksports and BC hopefuly i get good feedback..
yes it is, anything lower than that and you wont be able to drive the car, the frame of our cars sit real low
Old Nov 13, 2011 | 01:58 PM
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You can adjust ride height and spring tension with custom coilover springs.
http://www.rhdjapan.com/nissan/y50-fuga/springs
This site usually has the best prices for stuff like that. The Cusco coilover springs are the most affordable.

The best coilover springs money can buy are the swift springs. They use much stronger materials, so they can use less coils. This equates to a spring that weighs less, can compress more before bottoming out, and has a much more linier compression rate. So you can drop your car a lot with out turning your ride quality to dog shyt.
http://www.swiftsprings.net/products...r_springs.html
there's the parent site for swift springs, if you want them try to order through that site, or a US distributor. These springs are over priced in Japan because they gobble them up like crazy over there. You can buy the crappiest set of coilovers, and turn them to gold with a set of swifts.

If you go with a crazy high spring rate, you need to get the valve in the dampers adjusted by the manufacturer of the coilover, or risk blowing a damper.

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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SubstanceAbusePowerhouse
You can adjust ride height and spring tension with custom coilover springs.
http://www.rhdjapan.com/nissan/y50-fuga/springs
This site usually has the best prices for stuff like that. The Cusco coilover springs are the most affordable.

The best coilover springs money can buy are the swift springs. They use much stronger materials, so they can use less coils. This equates to a spring that weighs less, can compress more before bottoming out, and has a much more linier compression rate. So you can drop your car a lot with out turning your ride quality to dog shyt.
http://www.swiftsprings.net/products...r_springs.html
there's the parent site for swift springs, if you want them try to order through that site, or a US distributor. These springs are over priced in Japan because they gobble them up like crazy over there. You can buy the crappiest set of coilovers, and turn them to gold with a set of swifts.

If you go with a crazy high spring rate, you need to get the valve in the dampers adjusted by the manufacturer of the coilover, or risk blowing a damper.
good info here SAPH, might consider these after installing the coilovers. do you have any experience with the swifts
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I'm not 100% sure about this, but based on another coilover thread, some are true coilovers in the rear and some are not. The BC rears are not because the spring and shock are mounted separately in the OEM locations, so you have to adjust the spring and shock height separately. Not a huge issue, but something worth noting. It may have something to do with the location of the damping adjustment **** on the shocks, which is located just under the upper shock mount.

I have BC's with pillowball mounts. If you don't want to feel every crack in the road, I suggest NOT getting pillowball mounts and stick with rubber mounts. It's hard to speak on comfort as I have mine set pretty stiff for height and wheel offset reasons, but from what I remember when I had my stock wheels on I was able to ride on softer damping settings and the ride comfort felt very similar to KYB's/Progress. I have quite a bit of thread left to lower even more, but looking under my car it wouldn't be a very good idea (that and my axles would hate me even more).
Old Nov 15, 2011 | 09:50 PM
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I'm not 100% sure about this, but based on another coilover thread, some are true coilovers in the rear and some are not. The BC rears are not because the spring and shock are mounted separately in the OEM locations, so you have to adjust the spring and shock height separately. Not a huge issue, but something worth noting. It may have something to do with the location of the damping adjustment **** on the shocks, which is located just under the upper shock mount.

I have BC's with pillowball mounts. If you don't want to feel every crack in the road, I suggest NOT getting pillowball mounts and stick with rubber mounts. It's hard to speak on comfort as I have mine set pretty stiff for height and wheel offset reasons, but from what I remember when I had my stock wheels on I was able to ride on softer damping settings and the ride comfort felt very similar to KYB's/Progress. I have quite a bit of thread left to lower even more, but looking under my car it wouldn't be a very good idea (that and my axles would hate me even more).
i read the same thing somewhere else also,,hope its not such a big deal adjusting and all though.

i know the BC BR model comes w/pillowball mounts so which model comes w/rubber mounts? i get u on the comfort part i figure its not the same as stock although stock wheels and BCs feeling close to progress isnt bad at all.i like ur stance as is although i would like to drop the most here and there,,i cant wait till my axles start hating me also one question-have u ever messed around with the camber on BCs and ur current wheel setup?
Old Nov 16, 2011 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by blackmax6thgen
good info here SAPH, might consider these after installing the coilovers. do you have any experience with the swifts
I had a set on my WRX back in the day, I loved them. Anyone who does a lot of road racing or time attacks will vouch for them. They make lowering springs for oem dampers as well, but I've never tried them. Stance coilovers use them on all their top of the line units.

I'm probably going to order another set by the end of the month for the MR2. I'm going sway-less so I need a set of springs that can add the tension rates (that I'm going to lose by removing the swaybars) back into the suspension. I was thinking about going swayless on the maxima sometime in the future as well. These cars have really bad bump-steer.
Old Nov 16, 2011 | 09:11 PM
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I had a set on my WRX back in the day, I loved them. Anyone who does a lot of road racing or time attacks will vouch for them. They make lowering springs for oem dampers as well, but I've never tried them. Stance coilovers use them on all their top of the line units.

I'm probably going to order another set by the end of the month for the MR2. I'm going sway-less so I need a set of springs that can add the tension rates (that I'm going to lose by removing the swaybars) back into the suspension. I was thinking about going swayless on the maxima sometime in the future as well. These cars have really bad bump-steer.
they seem like legit spring from what i read on their website,,
lmk how thosse work out when u install them, i feel u on the bump=steer..
so if i were to buy BC coils i would be able to swap the springs no problem
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Originally Posted by blackmax6thgen
they seem like legit spring from what i read on their website,,
lmk how thosse work out when u install them, i feel u on the bump=steer..
so if i were to buy BC coils i would be able to swap the springs no problem
If you're not doing anything out of the ordinary, then just use the measurements of the springs that come with your coilovers. You need to know inner diameter, length or height of the spring, and the rate of the springs; then relay all that info to swift. If you're going swayless or want an optimized rate for the ride height that you'll be at, then it's quite a bit more in depth as far as the length and rate. But if you aren't road racing the car then just use the specs of the springs you get on the BC coils.

I don't know how the coilovers are designed for the rear on maximas, I just got mine, so I haven't had time to do anything to it. But if the aftermarket rear coilover is a traditional style, and not a separate damper and spring like the maxima and g35/37 sedan then you should be fine. If aftermarket suspension retains the stock setup then you're going to have to talk to swift about it.
Old Nov 17, 2011 | 11:12 PM
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Dude just get BC racing coilover n call it day/night. I had them n they were wonderful no lied. BC, Megan, tein, or Jic coilovers for rears are not true coilovers. The only true coilovers is Ksport/D2. If u don't want true coilover then get BC racing coilover n if u want true coilover then get Ksport/D2.
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Originally Posted by blackmax6thgen
what do you recommend based on *comfort *adjustability and *reliability
on the following * *Ksport and *BC racing and Why. any feedback is appreciated also feel free to post pics thanks for your time.

*took TEINS off the list based on the drop rate for the fronts its only 2.2 looking to go lower
First ask yourself,do you you want comfort? Very few coilovers with give you comfort because they were designed for track and stibility. People just just them on the streets and live with feeling cracks and bouncing around. From experience I've had coilovers and personally I'll never buy it again. It decreases the life of you shocks depending on how much driving you do,how low your car is and how bad the roads are where you live.

I have a 1.5 drop with KYB GR-2 and I'm pretty comfortable with the wheel gap gone and the look I get with the 22's. I would post up pics but I don't know how too. The real coilovers are pretty pricey and they come with the dampeners.

So you should ask yourself if you want comfort,looks,performance or durability.
Old Nov 18, 2011 | 09:35 AM
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I know this wasn't one of your options, but I'm riding on Megan Racing coilovers and I have no regrets on these! The ride is way better than I expected. Especially coming from Eibach springs.
I've crank my coilovers down to no gap and they ride pretty well, but I have recently raised it up to a one finger gap, cause the speed bumps at work are fricken crazy high!
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i read the same thing somewhere else also,,hope its not such a big deal adjusting and all though.

i know the BC BR model comes w/pillowball mounts so which model comes w/rubber mounts? i get u on the comfort part i figure its not the same as stock although stock wheels and BCs feeling close to progress isnt bad at all.i like ur stance as is although i would like to drop the most here and there,,i cant wait till my axles start hating me also one question-have u ever messed around with the camber on BCs and ur current wheel setup?
Adjusting isn't that big of an issue, just inconvenient. I believe all BC's come with pillowball mounts. The only ones I can recall off the top of my head are the Tein SS, but I'm not even sure if those come with rubber mounts or people just use their stock ones. I do remember seeing some BC's without front camber plates, maybe you can use the OEM mounts on those? I'd give tech@bcracing-na.com a shout to see if there's any way to use OEM rubber mounts with their coilovers, that is if you don't need camber plates.

As for the front camber, I did add a bit of negative camber, not sure what degree it is.
Old Nov 19, 2011 | 11:28 AM
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Like Joe said adjusting the rear isn't that big of a deal it just takes a little longer on the BC's. With the high/low suspension in the rear you just have to be careful to adjust them evenly or you'll end up with either some slow speed chatter or bounce. My coilovers are set lower than most and the ride doesn't bother me at all but I bought them for performance purposes. I never expected a smooth ride but they ended up riding just as good as my RL springs which I didn't think were harsh at all. Obviously ground clearance is an issue but I get around without problems. Even with being as low as I am in the front there was no need to adjust the camber plates since the oem range was still able to compensate. Also with the BC's you don't adjust suspension travel just the height of it so they aren't going to wear out (have to be rebuilt) any faster. In other words it makes no difference to these how low or high you are.

All that being said I would recommend the BC's. I've pushed them hard and I couldn't be happier.

You can see the spring and separate shock here..


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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 12:39 PM
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Dude just get BC racing coilover n call it day/night. I had them n they were wonderful no lied. BC, Megan, tein, or Jic coilovers for rears are not true coilovers. The only true coilovers is Ksport/D2. If u don't want true coilover then get BC racing coilover n if u want true coilover then get Ksport/D2.
thats what i will be getting my friend and thanks for the feedback bro.Why did you switch from BC to D2. which are u most satisfied with?
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If you're not doing anything out of the ordinary, then just use the measurements of the springs that come with your coilovers. You need to know inner diameter, length or height of the spring, and the rate of the springs; then relay all that info to swift. If you're going swayless or want an optimized rate for the ride height that you'll be at, then it's quite a bit more in depth as far as the length and rate. But if you aren't road racing the car then just use the specs of the springs you get on the BC coils.

I don't know how the coilovers are designed for the rear on maximas, I just got mine, so I haven't had time to do anything to it. But if the aftermarket rear coilover is a traditional style, and not a separate damper and spring like the maxima and g35/37 sedan then you should be fine. If aftermarket suspension retains the stock setup then you're going to have to talk to swift about it.
sounds good man thanks for the advice and helping me out with everything,ill look for u once the time comes for more questions...

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