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airwolf09 Jun 10, 2009 04:00 AM

Continental ExtremeContact DWS
 
anyone try out this new Continental ExtremeContact DWS tires on your car yet? I want to put these on my max to replace the goodyear OEM but want to know the ride comfort and noise comfort.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....e1=yes&place=1

http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightlin...14%20Alpha.jpg
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....e1=yes&place=1

Mreim769 Jun 10, 2009 09:01 AM

Good luck with a response.

IFuXwiTuZ Jun 10, 2009 09:24 AM

lol wow thats pretty cool on how they put DWS "dry" "wet" "snow"
"S" wears off you cant drive in snow
"W" wears off you cant drive in rain
"D" wears off time to spend another 180$ on ONE tire that prob doesnt last longer then 5k miles...lollololol continentals are good but the thing i notice with them is that they wear very quickly
on both my altimas and my E500 all came with continentals but then again...they are from germany.....

airwolf09 Jun 10, 2009 09:38 AM

that is my concern too. wonder how quick the tread wear out. I guess I either stick with the Dunlop SP Signature or the michellin MXV4.

MXV4 seems to be the top ranking #1

MaxLoverAz Jun 10, 2009 09:43 AM

Given the fact the DWS was just released last March it will be a while before anyone can confirm the tread wear however this quote from Continentals press release "The DWS also has a 50,000-mile limited tread wear warranty"

So that doesn't seem so bad....

MaxLoverAz Jun 10, 2009 09:46 AM

Here is an actual auto course review and quote "The DWS tire has a UTQG rating of 540 A A (meaning they’ll be long-lasting) and come in 16-24” sizes with aspect ratios of 25-55."

http://blogs.eurotuner.com/6462445/e...res/index.html

IFuXwiTuZ Jun 10, 2009 10:18 AM

good find maxlover i guess they are good tires after all....lol...

but then again @ 170 a pop they better be good tires.... not like i go to a track or anything.....

MaxLoverAz Jun 10, 2009 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by IFuXwiTuZ (Post 7069760)
good find maxlover i guess they are good tires after all....lol...

but then again @ 170 a pop they better be good tires.... not like i go to a track or anything.....

LOL evidently you haven't priced replacement tires for your 09 yet... Excluding sales the average starting price is in the $130- area if you have the 18" wheels.

lightonthehill Jun 10, 2009 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by MaxLoverAz (Post 7069780)
LOL evidently you haven't priced replacement tires for your 09 yet... Excluding sales the average starting price is in the $130- area if you have the 18" wheels.


TireMax does not even carry this tire in the 245/40/19 size for the '09 Maxima Sport. Discount Tire does not stock this tire yet in the Atlanta area. The article said this tire would be on sale in North America this summer.

airwolf09 Jun 10, 2009 05:30 PM

I came across Edmund on the review for this tire
http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightlin...t-dw--dws.html

good find on the article MaxLoverAz;)

only tirerack carry it at the moment and you get free gps if you get a set of 4 tires:p

MaxLoverAz Jun 10, 2009 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by lightonthehill (Post 7070281)
TireMax does not even carry this tire in the 245/40/19 size for the '09 Maxima Sport. Discount Tire does not stock this tire yet in the Atlanta area. The article said this tire would be on sale in North America this summer.

I was referring to tires for the 2009 Max in general, he was pissing about the cost and I was saying hey look at ANY tires for the 09 Maxima they all start at around $130 and go up from their...

lightonthehill Jun 10, 2009 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by MaxLoverAz (Post 7070481)
I was referring to tires for the 2009 Max in general, he was pissing about the cost and I was saying hey look at ANY tires for the 09 Maxima they all start at around $130 and go up from their...


I should not have attached my response to your post (yours just happened to be the last post at the time I responded). I should have had it responding to one of the posts talking about the tire and its availability. I certainly agree with your point that it will be difficult to find a quality tire for the '09 Maxima for much less than the cost of the DWS tires. $130 would indeed be about the bottom price for a decent tire, and we would pay more than that for a very good tire.

Mreim769 Jun 11, 2009 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by lightonthehill (Post 7070704)
I should not have attached my response to your post (yours just happened to be the last post at the time I responded). I should have had it responding to one of the posts talking about the tire and its availability. I certainly agree with your point that it will be difficult to find a quality tire for the '09 Maxima for much less than the cost of the DWS tires. $130 would indeed be about the bottom price for a decent tire, and we would pay more than that for a very good tire.

Man, $130-$180 a tire is nothing for an 18" wheel. It sounds like a pretty decent tire too. I am very accustomed to paying upwards of $300 a tire for 17" wheels.

hogpowr Jun 11, 2009 07:45 AM

I was checking out this tire, it is similar, without (apparently), snow capabilities.....:confused:

It is on my short list.....:cool:

http://www.nittotire.com/#index%2Eti...nvo%2Eoverview

LUNATIC Jun 12, 2009 12:05 PM

If its like many conti`s, it will have a very soft sidewall

mykola Sep 24, 2009 07:12 PM

Just replaced the OEM Michelins with the Conti DWS tires. Can't speak to tread life, but these tires really grip like crazy! Better than the Michelins, quiet, very responsive on dry pavement. Will check back in as the weather gets crappy.

lightonthehill Sep 25, 2009 03:04 AM


Originally Posted by mykola (Post 7219840)
Just replaced the OEM Michelins with the Conti DWS tires. Can't speak to tread life, but these tires really grip like crazy! Better than the Michelins, quiet, very responsive on dry pavement. Will check back in as the weather gets crappy.



I just checked the Discount Tire site, and they have 48 different tires in the 245/45-R18 OEM size that fits all '09 Maximas except the Sport version.

The prices ranged from $136 to $392, with 29 of the 48 priced over $200. The highly rated Yokohama 520 (that I paid $120 for on my 6th gen) now costs $179 a pop in the size that fits the '09. After looking at the prices and ratings, it appears to me that the Conti DWS tires had probably the best rating, and they 'only' cost $167 at Discount Tire. You need to call ahead, as it takes them 2 to 3 days to get the DWS tires in hand.

Frank Fontaine Oct 7, 2009 02:49 PM

I might be getting them in the orig 215/55-16 size. After 7 1/2 years of riding on 235/40-18's, two rims in the last 2 mos. broke the camel's back! That was a total of 5 bent rims out of 10 purchased (last time I got 4 + 2 for spares).

On the BMW which has run flats, in 3 years, nothing has happened, and I have a wheel/tire warranty on them (of course). Amazing and those are 35's in the back. I think the 30 lb. rims help. The maxima has had these 21 lb. 2-pc rims that just got bent every which way.....

lightonthehill Oct 8, 2009 01:25 AM


Originally Posted by Frank Fontaine (Post 7241137)
I might be getting them in the orig 215/55-16 size. After 7 1/2 years of riding on 235/40-18's, two rims in the last 2 mos. broke the camel's back! .....



The 235/40-18s are just a tad low in weight-carrying capacity for the 7th gen Maxima. A 245/40-18 should have enough weight-carrying capacity to handle the 7th gen, which has an OEM tire size of 245/45-18. A 250/40-18 or 250/45-18 would be a small, but nice step up in size above the OEM. A 255/40-18 should also work, and offer even more tread width.

As for going to a 215/55-16, that is the OEM size for a 2000 Maxima GLE, which weighed over 300 pounds less than the 7th gen Maxima. If you are set on a 55 profile on 16" wheels, I would suggest a 225/55-16, which has a similar weight-carrying capacity to the 225/55-17 tires on the 6th gen Maxima SL, which is very close in weight to the 7th gen Maxima.

MaxLoverAz Oct 8, 2009 07:55 PM

I can't wait to get these tires but I'm going with the DW as I don't have to worry about snow... LOL

Dusty1960 Nov 17, 2009 08:10 PM

Just ordered a set of 4 255/50/17 for my 2K I30t "family car" with Tokico Illumina ADJ shocks. Had AVIDs ($180 ea +) and they are BAD in the snow here in Cincy but great elsewise - except for wear. Needed AS Quite, good braking, snow go, low hydraplane and low roll in curves. Were $120 ea at tirerack.com

Had Contilental OEM's on my M Roadster and they lasted pretty long, very quiet but slipped out on the high speed curves a lot more than the Eagle F1 AS I put on this summer.

Will advise how they make it thru the Winter

DJV Feb 12, 2010 06:46 PM

Continential DWS
 
Time will tell regarding tread life. I just bought a set of 4 today They came with a 50,000 mile tread wear warranty which is unheard of for a high performance high speed rated tire. I paid $160 each mounted, balanced, free tire rotation, and balance. Read the reviews on tire racks web site. Nothing but good things to say about them. I put them on my Mazda Speed 3. I'll be back with more info after I get a few miles on them.

MaxLoverAz Feb 13, 2010 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by DJV (Post 7419267)
Time will tell regarding tread life. I just bought a set of 4 today They came with a 50,000 mile tread wear warranty which is unheard of for a high performance high speed rated tire. I paid $160 each mounted, balanced, free tire rotation, and balance. Read the reviews on tire racks web site. Nothing but good things to say about them. I put them on my Mazda Speed 3. I'll be back with more info after I get a few miles on them.

18" or 19"?

maxirob Jul 12, 2010 07:39 PM

I put a set of these on my 4th gen several thousand miles ago. Absolutely the best set of tires I have ever owned, and I've owned many. They are on the soft side, but the ride is VERY smooth, VERY quiet, turns are rock solid. I have a GLE, but with SE springs and GR2 shocks, went up on wheels to 17's, tire are now 245/35/17's. When I went to buy these in April they were on backorder everywhere. I just stumbled upon a set at discount tire and I love them. It's like having a new car!

WasatchY2KMax Jul 12, 2010 08:29 PM

I agree with everything you said about these tires! I put them on in January and they were fantastic in the snow. Lately we've taken two long road trips to Colorado Springs and last week to Flathead Lake in NW Montana. Amazing ride (you can actually hear the stereo) I got an extra 100 per tank of fuel but that may be the fact that I also replaced the spark plugs with Iridium... who knows but I'll take it. These Conti's won't hardly let you break them loose on wet and especially dry pavement. I have the pressure fairly high (don't remember what right off though... maybe 32-34) and don't notice a soft ride. Just nice quite grip in all conditions as I wave at the gas stations on the way past.

lightonthehill Jul 13, 2010 01:18 AM


Originally Posted by WasatchY2KMax (Post 7640574)
I have the pressure fairly high (don't remember what right off though... maybe 32-34) and don't notice a soft ride.

You probably have higher pressure than 32-34. That is the recommended psi. I am carrying 36 psi, and that would be considered high. Anything over 37 psi starts to play unpleasant tricks with the ride, suspension and handling during high speed driving.

smarty666 Jul 13, 2010 07:47 AM

Everyone raves about these tires initially, but I'm still holding out my verdict till we get a whole bunch of long-term reviews of these tires. Problem is, as others have point out, they are still relatively new, and thus, there are very few 30, 40, and 50k mile reviews for these tires on tirerack and until they get a bunch of these long term reviews, I wouldn't gamble with the tire yet.

I do admit though, these tires look freakin sweet and totally bad ***! They definitely would look pretty sweet on the Maxima.

WasatchY2KMax Jul 13, 2010 05:20 PM

UpstateMAx*** has been running them for a while. Don't know how many miles he has on them though. The way I see it for a Z speed rated tire with a 50k warranty (which is almost unheard of) and a fairly low out the door price, I'll take my chances with longevity. Especially after the horrible results I got from the prior Yoko YK520's

lightonthehill Jul 13, 2010 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by WasatchY2KMax (Post 7642091)
Especially after the horrible results I got from the prior Yoko YK520's

Wow! I ran Yoko 520s for over two years on my '04 SL (paid $120 each for them back in '07), and was very happy with them. When I traded the car in after over two years on these tires, the guy checking out the car looked at them and asked 'New tires?' because they still had almost all the tread left. And I loved the way they drove.

Maybe the same tire in different tire sizes has a difference in handling, ride, wear, etc.

WasatchY2KMax Jul 13, 2010 06:28 PM

Hmmm... The Yoko YK520's I had sucked in the snow BIG TIME and were down to the wear indicators at 18k so Discount Tire gave me back about $90 per tire under the Yoko warranty. Made the set of Continental DWS cheap out the door. The D.T. tire guy did try to get me to buy another set of YK520's. I told him not only no, but h#ll no!
You should see my picture of a YK520 that came apart in Wyoming. I'll try to find it on here... I know it's on a post somewhere

WasatchY2KMax Jul 13, 2010 06:34 PM

Here's the picture of the Yoko YK520 that came apart at 80mph in Wyoming. Glad they used Gorilla Glue for bead sealant because the sidewall didn't come off the rim so the wheel wasn't damaged
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...0815091907.jpg

smarty666 Jul 13, 2010 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by WasatchY2KMax (Post 7642276)
Here's the picture of the Yoko YK520 that came apart at 80mph in Wyoming. Glad they used Gorilla Glue for bead sealant because the sidewall didn't come off the rim so the wheel wasn't damaged
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...0815091907.jpg

Nice sealant they used for sure. That was a stroke of good luck, (A) you didn't die and (B) the tire acted as a nice cushion so your wheel was not damaged!

lightonthehill Jul 14, 2010 02:51 AM

From that photo, it looks like you were running the 5th gen Performance Aluminum Alloy wheels, which take a 225/50VR17 tire.

On my 6th gen '04 SL, I replaced the Conti 225/55VR17 OEM tires with 235/55VR17 YK520s.

Being different widths and profiles, I'm sure our tires were made on different machines. That might have had something to do with your YK520s being so bad and mine being so good. Another factor is I was running a tire that was both taller and wider, which had a much greater load-carrying capacity. I don't know if the fact I carried three more psi than recommended enters into this. As to the snow thing, living south of Hotlanta, I do sometimes see snow on TV when I watch the winter olympics. But neither my dog nor my Maxima would recognize snow if they saw it.

LtLeary Jul 14, 2010 03:32 AM

My eyes may be getting a bit poor, so forgive me if I missed a post or two, but has anyone put these on their 7th Gen yet?

GEAR_HEAD Jul 14, 2010 05:09 AM

I put these on my 2004 Grand Prix GTP and my sister's 2007 Monte Carlo SS and they are absolutely awesome on both. I can't wait until the crappy RSA's wear out so I can put them on the Max.

KillaKam Jul 14, 2010 09:55 AM

I will be getting the DWS as soon as its time to replace my OEM tires. Been looking forward to picking them up for a while :)

MONTE 01&97 SE Jul 14, 2010 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by lightonthehill (Post 7642717)
From that photo, it looks like you were running the 5th gen Performance Aluminum Alloy wheels, which take a 225/50VR17 tire.

On my 6th gen '04 SL, I replaced the Conti 225/55VR17 OEM tires with 235/55VR17 YK520s.

Being different widths and profiles, I'm sure our tires were made on different machines. That might have had something to do with your YK520s being so bad and mine being so good. Another factor is I was running a tire that was both taller and wider, which had a much greater load-carrying capacity. I don't know if the fact I carried three more psi than recommended enters into this. As to the snow thing, living south of Hotlanta, I do sometimes see snow on TV when I watch the winter olympics. But neither my dog nor my Maxima would recognize snow if they saw it.

Light I'm running that size on my 5.5 Gen and has not had any issues with YK520's either, as a matter of act I'm on my second set of them. Got 51k outta the 1st set, I chatted with Wasatach about earlier in the year about tires. At that time the DWS was on back order (was thinking about trying them) but since they were on back order went with the YK520's again...... BTW they have gone way up in price since 07!

WasatchY2KMax Jul 14, 2010 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by smarty666 (Post 7642511)
Nice sealant they used for sure. That was a stroke of good luck, (A) you didn't die and (B) the tire acted as a nice cushion so your wheel was not damaged!


Originally Posted by lightonthehill (Post 7642717)
From that photo, it looks like you were running the 5th gen Performance Aluminum Alloy wheels, which take a 225/50VR17 tire.

On my 6th gen '04 SL, I replaced the Conti 225/55VR17 OEM tires with 235/55VR17 YK520s.

Being different widths and profiles, I'm sure our tires were made on different machines. That might have had something to do with your YK520s being so bad and mine being so good. Another factor is I was running a tire that was both taller and wider, which had a much greater load-carrying capacity. I don't know if the fact I carried three more psi than recommended enters into this. As to the snow thing, living south of Hotlanta, I do sometimes see snow on TV when I watch the winter olympics. But neither my dog nor my Maxima would recognize snow if they saw it.

Smarty... No doubt! At least it was the drivers rear that blew apart. At that speed a front would have been a lot harder to steer to the shoulder.

Light, yes the OEM tires are 225/50/17 but NOBODY had that size in the DWS when I needed them. I was told by several dealers that the 225/50/17 DWS was on back order until late April. I had to have them in January to pass safety for new tags so went with the 235/55/17. Can't tell any difference as far as appearance since the new tires are the same or slightly larger in diameter than the worn out YK520's

bmanbmv Jul 15, 2010 07:49 PM

I put these on my 7th gen about a month ago. Much improvement from the goodyear eagles. Handling, road noise, and comfort have all been dramatically improved from the moment I put them on. I will buy these again. Plus they should last forever.

lightonthehill Jul 16, 2010 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by WasatchY2KMax (Post 7644148)
I was told by several dealers that the 225/50/17 DWS was on back order until late April. I had to have them in January to pass safety for new tags so went with the 235/55/17. Can't tell any difference as far as appearance since the new tires are the same or slightly larger in diameter than the worn out YK520's

The 235/55/17 is both wider and higher than the 225/50/17, so has a much higher load carrying limit. You should get many more miles from these than you would have gotten from the 225/50/17.

With the big increase in price on the YK520 (I bought mine for $120 each,but now they are $170 to $200 each), I will probably switch to the Contis when my RS-As wear out. As snow is not a problem here in the deep south, I will look first at the DW version of the Contis. But if testing/consumer reviews are better for the DWS than for the DW, I might just buy it anyway.


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