2010 Maxima Charting the Changes
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I put a dvd in the cd player(the one that came with the car) and it played on the nav. When I took it to the dealer he went in to the options on the nav and did something all I know is it plays when the car is in park. The plug in from my itouch works on the nav too with the 3 jacks so I can see videos.
You should check to see when your maxima was manufactured, this might have something to do with it as maybe the later manufactured Maxima's got cd/dvd playback. My luck my Max was manufactured Aug 2008. I've tried everything and can't get a dvd to play on my screen of the max. Goodluck to whomever can figure it out.
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This is interesting. I will try it too, but I find it hard to believe it will work. How the heck did they get theirs to work? I'm not getting my hopes up, but that would be sick if there's a way.
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Again, what it boils down to is demographics. 90% of the people buying the 09 Max probably aren't looking for a NISMO tuned type car. Nissan didn't offer it probably because A) It was out of the price range of what most people are willing to spend on a 4 door sedan and B) It would be way to costly just to make a few of them and have them may or may not sell.
Again, what it boils down to is demographics. 90% of the people buying the 09 Max probably aren't looking for a NISMO tuned type car. Nissan didn't offer it probably because A) It was out of the price range of what most people are willing to spend on a 4 door sedan and B) It would be way to costly just to make a few of them and have them may or may not sell.
Well really simply it's money, how much are you willing to lose before you come to your senses. Making special, low volume, limited range (selling) editions really isn't for profits it's to increase brand awareness. The SHO was always low in sales numbers especially when compared to the "base" Taurus. I doubt they ever broke even on each one sold and I'm sure this new model is the same. They need something to bring folks into the showroom floor and not everyone is excited about a Mustang, create a cool HiPo 4 seater and boom your market segment just exploded. A lot like what Nissan does with the Maxima and all of the 4DSC hoopla, I'm just speculating here but I bet Altima takes a lot of the Maxima sales.
I just got through with the tour of the Nissan plant. First and foremost, that place is HUGE. It was only running at about half of its capacity and it showed. The main things they were building were Altimas and Frontiers. For every five Altimas I saw coming down the line, there were two Maximas. Now, on to the good stuff.
The design of the Maxima's wheels has not changed at all. Of course, there are differences in color. The bottom line is that Nissan is trying to make them shinier without doing chrome. The 18" wheels are now more silver with a satin type finish. The 19" wheels look almost like they were painted with some Duplicolor chrome paint. I tried to pick out a 2010 Maxima on the back lot to photograph from outside the plant but there were none near the fence line.
I also got a look at the new color Crimson Black. It is not a bad looking color at all. In fact I am strongly considering going with it. If I am not mistaken, Crimson Black is very similar to one of the colors that used to be offered on the Z. The best way I can describe it is a very dark brownish color with a red tinge. The florescent lights in the plant did not make gauging the color easy but this is the best description I can offer.
The design of the Maxima's wheels has not changed at all. Of course, there are differences in color. The bottom line is that Nissan is trying to make them shinier without doing chrome. The 18" wheels are now more silver with a satin type finish. The 19" wheels look almost like they were painted with some Duplicolor chrome paint. I tried to pick out a 2010 Maxima on the back lot to photograph from outside the plant but there were none near the fence line.
I also got a look at the new color Crimson Black. It is not a bad looking color at all. In fact I am strongly considering going with it. If I am not mistaken, Crimson Black is very similar to one of the colors that used to be offered on the Z. The best way I can describe it is a very dark brownish color with a red tinge. The florescent lights in the plant did not make gauging the color easy but this is the best description I can offer.
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Boone - Thanks for a fine report on your factory tour. Yes, the plant is huge, not even counting the large area that is blacked out (no lighting) because robots don't need light to do their work, and so electricity is saved.
You have answered the questions I had. The new wheels are the old wheels with a slightly brighter finish. And Crimson Black is probably better described as dark maroon. But no car manufacturer would ever market a color as 'Dark Maroon', so we get 'Crimson Black', which sounds mysterious, and which may sell rather well.
The ratio of 5 Altimas for each 2 Maximas probably varies each day. But I will take it as good news. Nissan hoped to sell 250,000 Altimas each year, and only 70,000 Maximas. That is a ratio of 7 to 2. So a 5 to 2 ratio could hint that the Maxima is selling slightly better than expected.
Thanks for the report!
You have answered the questions I had. The new wheels are the old wheels with a slightly brighter finish. And Crimson Black is probably better described as dark maroon. But no car manufacturer would ever market a color as 'Dark Maroon', so we get 'Crimson Black', which sounds mysterious, and which may sell rather well.
The ratio of 5 Altimas for each 2 Maximas probably varies each day. But I will take it as good news. Nissan hoped to sell 250,000 Altimas each year, and only 70,000 Maximas. That is a ratio of 7 to 2. So a 5 to 2 ratio could hint that the Maxima is selling slightly better than expected.
Thanks for the report!
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Have you checked the driveout price for an SHO? And keep in mind that, even at that price, Ford loses money on each SHO they make. The SHO is simply to draw attention to the Taurus, which Ford makes by the hundreds of thousands. The SHO is sold in numbers so small it can't even be considered as a 'niche' vehicle. Trying to produce an SHO-type Maxima, when Nissan probably won't even be able to sell 50,000 '09 Maximas, would be a financial disaster.
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HondaV6 - You have obviously missed around seven years of back-and-forth here on the manual issue. Nissan announced back in 2002 that the 3.5 manual version of the Altima would be their new entry-level affordable 4 door sports sedan, and the Maxima would be taken up to near-luxury and become Nissan's new flagship. It would also have a strong sporting edge, but would lean slightly more to the luxurious side.
They have done just that.
As to the manual Maxima? Nissan produced it for a quarter of a century, and BOTH DEALERS AND THE BUYING PUBLIC TOLD NISSAN THEY DIDN'T WANT A MANUAL MAXIMA. How did they tell Nissan this? By dealers not accepting manuals from the factory because they couldn't sell them. Simple as that.
But the days of a vehicle requiring a manual tranny in order to have a sporting edge are over. Those who choose to go by the rules of the past are destined to to be stuck in that bygone era as the world moves forward. Driving a car with a manual tranny will eventually be considered the same as sword dueling; exciting and macho, but with nothing of essence accomplished, other than an occasional ego boost.
HondaV6 - You have obviously missed around seven years of back-and-forth here on the manual issue. Nissan announced back in 2002 that the 3.5 manual version of the Altima would be their new entry-level affordable 4 door sports sedan, and the Maxima would be taken up to near-luxury and become Nissan's new flagship. It would also have a strong sporting edge, but would lean slightly more to the luxurious side.
They have done just that.
As to the manual Maxima? Nissan produced it for a quarter of a century, and BOTH DEALERS AND THE BUYING PUBLIC TOLD NISSAN THEY DIDN'T WANT A MANUAL MAXIMA. How did they tell Nissan this? By dealers not accepting manuals from the factory because they couldn't sell them. Simple as that.
But the days of a vehicle requiring a manual tranny in order to have a sporting edge are over. Those who choose to go by the rules of the past are destined to to be stuck in that bygone era as the world moves forward. Driving a car with a manual tranny will eventually be considered the same as sword dueling; exciting and macho, but with nothing of essence accomplished, other than an occasional ego boost.
They have done just that.
As to the manual Maxima? Nissan produced it for a quarter of a century, and BOTH DEALERS AND THE BUYING PUBLIC TOLD NISSAN THEY DIDN'T WANT A MANUAL MAXIMA. How did they tell Nissan this? By dealers not accepting manuals from the factory because they couldn't sell them. Simple as that.
But the days of a vehicle requiring a manual tranny in order to have a sporting edge are over. Those who choose to go by the rules of the past are destined to to be stuck in that bygone era as the world moves forward. Driving a car with a manual tranny will eventually be considered the same as sword dueling; exciting and macho, but with nothing of essence accomplished, other than an occasional ego boost.
well said
...............the nissans navi is one of the best and easiet navis ive ever used, your the first ive heard to dislike it
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Are you saying I have been misled on this '09 Maxima navi? And here I thought it was a neato-torpedo thingie, and have been proudly showing it off to my friends, who all agreed it was nicer than theirs.
Maybe I should cover my navi screen with a piece cut out of a Rand-McNally paper road map and never again mention I have a navi?
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I have an 09 for sure. I did the same thing that you all did when I first got the car. I was upset so I took it to service at the dealer and when I picked it up the guy put the dvd in and it played. My VIN# is an 09. There's not much change in the 10. Our 09's also have Ds, just heard there are different colors.
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You should check to see when your maxima was manufactured, this might have something to do with it as maybe the later manufactured Maxima's got cd/dvd playback. My luck my Max was manufactured Aug 2008. I've tried everything and can't get a dvd to play on my screen of the max. Goodluck to whomever can figure it out.
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Are you saying I have been misled on this '09 Maxima navi? And here I thought it was a neato-torpedo thingie, and have been proudly showing it off to my friends, who all agreed it was nicer than theirs.
Maybe I should cover my navi screen with a piece cut out of a Rand-McNally paper road map and never again mention I have a navi?
Maybe I should cover my navi screen with a piece cut out of a Rand-McNally paper road map and never again mention I have a navi?
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Hilarious! I drove jeeps (like a bat-out-of-he]]), Three-quarter ton trucks (an extremely notchy manual; narrow and top-heavy - I turned one over) and Deuce-and-a-halfs (2 1/2 ton trucks with early automatic tranny that slipped so bad I couldn't climb modestly steep slopes) in Korea back in the 1950s, and the mud-covered, worn-out maps we were using were virtually unreadable. Not that they were accurate enough to be helpful anyway.
Had someone shown up with a navi back then, he would have been accused of pinko commie witchcraft and thrown into the slit trench (our 'toilet'), where the fumes would have insured he would end up as 'lost in action.'
I have an 09 for sure. I did the same thing that you all did when I first got the car. I was upset so I took it to service at the dealer and when I picked it up the guy put the dvd in and it played. My VIN# is an 09. There's not much change in the 10. Our 09's also have Ds, just heard there are different colors.
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Hilarious! I drove jeeps (like a bat-out-of-he]]), Three-quarter ton trucks (an extremely notchy manual; narrow and top-heavy - I turned one over) and Deuce-and-a-halfs (2 1/2 ton trucks with early automatic tranny that slipped so bad I couldn't climb modestly steep slopes) in Korea back in the 1950s, and the mud-covered, worn-out maps we were using were virtually unreadable. Not that they were accurate enough to be helpful anyway.
Had someone shown up with a navi back then, he would have been accused of pinko commie witchcraft and thrown into the slit trench (our 'toilet'), where the fumes would have insured he would end up as 'lost in action.'
Had someone shown up with a navi back then, he would have been accused of pinko commie witchcraft and thrown into the slit trench (our 'toilet'), where the fumes would have insured he would end up as 'lost in action.'
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Hilarious! I drove jeeps (like a bat-out-of-he]]), Three-quarter ton trucks (an extremely notchy manual; narrow and top-heavy - I turned one over) and Deuce-and-a-halfs (2 1/2 ton trucks with early automatic tranny that slipped so bad I couldn't climb modestly steep slopes) in Korea back in the 1950s, and the mud-covered, worn-out maps we were using were virtually unreadable. Not that they were accurate enough to be helpful anyway.
Had someone shown up with a navi back then, he would have been accused of pinko commie witchcraft and thrown into the slit trench (our 'toilet'), where the fumes would have insured he would end up as 'lost in action.'
Had someone shown up with a navi back then, he would have been accused of pinko commie witchcraft and thrown into the slit trench (our 'toilet'), where the fumes would have insured he would end up as 'lost in action.'
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HondaV6 - You have obviously missed around seven years of back-and-forth here on the manual issue. Nissan announced back in 2002 that the 3.5 manual version of the Altima would be their new entry-level affordable 4 door sports sedan, and the Maxima would be taken up to near-luxury and become Nissan's new flagship. It would also have a strong sporting edge, but would lean slightly more to the luxurious side.
They have done just that.
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They have done just that.
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wasn't the maxima "Nissans Flagship" to begin with? why would it become the new flagship.
Nissan calls this Maxima a 4DSC. A sports car shouldn't have a CVT. It takes most of the fun out of driving IMO. And if it leans more towards luxury then nissan should have called it a 4DLC! The altima 6MT is more sporty and faster than the new Maxima with 90% of the luxury for alot less.
wasn't the maxima "Nissans Flagship" to begin with? why would it become the new flagship.
wasn't the maxima "Nissans Flagship" to begin with? why would it become the new flagship.
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Nissan calls this Maxima a 4DSC. A sports car shouldn't have a CVT. It takes most of the fun out of driving IMO. And if it leans more towards luxury then nissan should have called it a 4DLC! The altima 6MT is more sporty and faster than the new Maxima with 90% of the luxury for alot less.
wasn't the maxima "Nissans Flagship" to begin with? why would it become the new flagship.
wasn't the maxima "Nissans Flagship" to begin with? why would it become the new flagship.
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Nissan calls this Maxima a 4DSC. A sports car shouldn't have a CVT. It takes most of the fun out of driving IMO. And if it leans more towards luxury then nissan should have called it a 4DLC! The altima 6MT is more sporty and faster than the new Maxima with 90% of the luxury for alot less.
wasn't the maxima "Nissans Flagship" to begin with? why would it become the new flagship.
wasn't the maxima "Nissans Flagship" to begin with? why would it become the new flagship.
This new Maxima has four ways of controlling the tranny, including a manual override via either stick or paddles. The manual override puts the tranny at set points comparable with the set points of a manual. The primary difference is the absence of the ego (clutch) pedal. You can drive this car in whatever mode suits your fancy. As to a true manual? Not as efficient as this '09 CVT, and no Nissan dealer was able to sell manual Maximas when they were available. Sadly, as far as family sedans go, the manual is becoming a nostalgic trip to the past. And if you think a sports sedan requires a manual, you are stuck in the second millenium.
The '09 Maxima is a heavier and more luxurious vehicle than the Altima, but I would bet the Altima would not outperform the Maxima from say, 40 mph to 130 mph. I do not even think the Altima would outperform the Maxima in the slalom. This '09 Maxima handles very well. But even if the Altima DID edge the Maxima is some maneuver, that only reinforces what Nissan told us seven years ago: That the 3.5 manual Altima would replace the Maxima as Nissan's affordable four door sports sedan.
The Altima 6MT does not have 90% of the goodies available in the '09 Premium Package. But dealers around me are charging MORE for loaded Altimas than for a base Maxima. The base Maxima is available for around $25K or less.
Yes, the Maxima was already the flagship, hence the 'new' Maxima is the 'new' flagship.
I read your posts closely, and, from the things you are saying, I get the impression you have not driven the '09 Maxima extensively, and you obviously have not been keeping up with Nissan's changes and announcements over the past eight years.
This '09 Maxima is easily the finest and most advanced car I have driven in what will be sixty years of driving this October. This '09 Maxima is a very fine car, and you might do well to move up to one. You might find your disparaging Maxima remarks have been somewhat premature.
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This new Maxima has four ways of controlling the tranny, including a manual override via either stick or paddles. The manual override puts the tranny at set points comparable with the set points of a manual. The primary difference is the absence of the ego (clutch) pedal. You can drive this car in whatever mode suits your fancy. As to a true manual? Not as efficient as this '09 CVT, and no Nissan dealer was able to sell manual Maximas when they were available. Sadly, as far as family sedans go, the manual is becoming a nostalgic trip to the past. And if you think a sports sedan requires a manual, you are stuck in the second millenium.
The '09 Maxima is a heavier and more luxurious vehicle than the Altima, but I would bet the Altima would not outperform the Maxima from say, 40 mph to 130 mph. I do not even think the Altima would outperform the Maxima in the slalom. This '09 Maxima handles very well. But even if the Altima DID edge the Maxima is some maneuver, that only reinforces what Nissan told us seven years ago: That the 3.5 manual Altima would replace the Maxima as Nissan's affordable four door sports sedan.
The Altima 6MT does not have 90% of the goodies available in the '09 Premium Package. But dealers around me are charging MORE for loaded Altimas than for a base Maxima. The base Maxima is available for around $25K or less.
Yes, the Maxima was already the flagship, hence the 'new' Maxima is the 'new' flagship.
I read your posts closely, and, from the things you are saying, I get the impression you have not driven the '09 Maxima extensively, and you obviously have not been keeping up with Nissan's changes and announcements over the past eight years.
This '09 Maxima is easily the finest and most advanced car I have driven in what will be sixty years of driving this October. This '09 Maxima is a very fine car, and you might do well to move up to one. You might find your disparaging Maxima remarks have been somewhat premature.
The '09 Maxima is a heavier and more luxurious vehicle than the Altima, but I would bet the Altima would not outperform the Maxima from say, 40 mph to 130 mph. I do not even think the Altima would outperform the Maxima in the slalom. This '09 Maxima handles very well. But even if the Altima DID edge the Maxima is some maneuver, that only reinforces what Nissan told us seven years ago: That the 3.5 manual Altima would replace the Maxima as Nissan's affordable four door sports sedan.
The Altima 6MT does not have 90% of the goodies available in the '09 Premium Package. But dealers around me are charging MORE for loaded Altimas than for a base Maxima. The base Maxima is available for around $25K or less.
Yes, the Maxima was already the flagship, hence the 'new' Maxima is the 'new' flagship.
I read your posts closely, and, from the things you are saying, I get the impression you have not driven the '09 Maxima extensively, and you obviously have not been keeping up with Nissan's changes and announcements over the past eight years.
This '09 Maxima is easily the finest and most advanced car I have driven in what will be sixty years of driving this October. This '09 Maxima is a very fine car, and you might do well to move up to one. You might find your disparaging Maxima remarks have been somewhat premature.
From 40MPH - 130MPH the 6MT Altima would pull out the victory on a new Maxima. The new altima traps around 101MPH in the 1/4mile. The new maxima traps around 97-98MPH so I have seen. The new maxima falls flat on its face after 100MPH. Check out this video compared to a 6MT altima and you will see the difference in acceleration especially up top. The new Maxima is a great car its just lacking the proper transmissions IMO. I think the CVT takes the fun out of the vehicle for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJoHkaMy4nA
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I didn't contradict myself in any way. I already own a old maxima! thanks!