I mean't to ask this in my last thread.....I had the 2 degree adv in the Titan and felt a huge change in performance, what about in the Maxima? Could that be the reason why some are getting a little higher redline limits?

 

I did find this on NICO for 5th and 5.5 gen's, might work on the 7th gens too. This is what I did on my Titan too.

You will only gain better throttle response and a fraction of accelleration.
Advancing your timing with Nissan’s CONSULT II tool.
For those of you with dealerships like mine (the tech may need a little help)
On CONSULT II main menu screen choose “ENGINE”
Check out any codes that are stored, then clear codes
Press “WORK SUPPORT”
Press “TARGET IGN TIMING”
Press “UP” x2 for 2 degrees, correction which you should be able to see
Press “UPDATE”
Press “BACK”
On the “WORK SUPPORT” screen find “IDLE LEARN“ Perform this, since your idle will have changed.

 

I really hadn't paid it any mind but I just hooked up my Bullydog and advanced my timing +2 degrees and adjusted my idle 250 RPMS, now I'm getting ready to test drive her to see what she'll do.

I'll let you know in about an hour, I'll be paying particular attention to launching from a standstill in "D" and DS modes.

 

awesome cant wait!

 

Ok, sorry to have kept you all waiting (sometimes i get real busy) but here's my assessment driving in both modes after the adjustments:

D Mode=car is a little louder at idle as expected after the adjustment to the idle so it sounds a little more aggressive on the start up. On the launch it feels punchier and I can definitely tell the difference in the throttle response.

DS Mode from launch still lags a little but not as much as it has before the idle advance, she does appear to pull harder though from the standstill but D Mode is better from a dead stop but I was still spinning the tires in D Mode after 30mph.

Maybe I just need new tires

 

mmmm impressive, i cant wait till i get my bd tuner,, but first they gotta fix their issues with them

 

I work for a nissan dealership in alabama. The two degree advance in our cars can only be done using consult III. You have to tell it the vehicle is an 09 350Z to take the timing advance. It does work and is very simple to install. The only noticeable gains i have found was it seems to run smoother than usual and the throttle response is alot better. The only modifications I have are the 2 degree advance, secondary cat removed, all resonators removed, and homemade cold air intake.

 

you can do the advance with the bullydog as well

 

Sorry I meant without buying a bullydog that is the only way. Not sure about the bullydog for the maxima. It does not offer WOT restriciton removal. It only offers it fot the 5.6L engines. I cant see where it is worth the money. What does everyone else think.

 

so you guys are saying we could take our car to dealer and ask them to advance timings? because im very close to the manager @ the service department in white plains nissan

 

Absolutely. Just follow the directions I gave you and its a piece of cake. When I sell maximas, titans,etc I tell the customer about the advance and what it can do for the vehicles performance. We charge 25 dollars usually.

 

slatesv, what part of Bama are you in? Im in Dothan. If you're close I may get you to do mine.

 

So are you saying Consult III can remove the WOT restriction? The advantage with the bullydog is the ability to switch into mileage mode and then back again into performance mode without making a trip to the dealer and paying another labor charge.

 

17* is still running on the safe side. I've seen someone run as much as 21*...I'd say 18-19* is still safe. Someone may want to try it, I ran 19* on my 3.0 for reference

 

I am in Andalusia AL I work for Massey Automotive. No consult III will not remove WOT. You can advance the timing and increase or decrease idle rpms. Like I said before you must tell consult that it is a 09 350z to make this work. Im looking further into this with my Nissan techs to figure out what can be done. The bullydog doesnt even offer that for the maxima. No way to dyno tune one yet either. I have been looking into a custom sts turbo system with Henderson Performance but that has been the issue. No tuning on a dyno available due to CVT. But with research I have found the cvt is capable of handling more torque and horsepower..

 

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I have alot of customers in dothan. I am about an hour from you. Andalusia AL Massey Automotive.

 

What do you mean? Are you saying in regards to turbocharging or some other application to advance the CVT to put out more power??

 

i wonder what effect this has on gas mileage ?

 

What im saying is there is no way to accurately tune a maxima, altima, or any nissan vehicle equipped with a cvt on a dyno due to the vehicle not having a set gear ratio. It continuously changes due to driving conditions. That is why I dont see any way to really have power adders until technology with tuning catches up with the vehicles technology. The cvt is capable of handling more power than stock but it reduces the life of it. After all it is just a couple of coned shaped pullies and a steel mesh belt. In fact when our service department replaces one it comes already assembled just swap them out. Im sure the bullydog enhances power a bit and is a noticeable gain but I have always been a fan of custom tuning. If we all bought a bullydog we all have the same generic tune. What seperates our cars from eachother other than looks. As far as gas mileage is concerned with the 2 degree advance it really hasnt changed at all so no worries.

 

what research did you do to comfirm this? because i know in another forum a guy with a cvt turbo altima blew his tranny out because it couldnt take all that power

 

I have spoke with nissan representatives and nissan world class techs. Remember i work for nissan so i have alot of info available that others dont like access to nna.net which is a nissan employee website and also the availability to talk to tech support guys that come to our dealership for training. I bomb them with questions everytime they walk in our door they probably hate to see me coming. But anyways what i have gathered is the stregnth of the belt which is determined by the symbol Nm has to do with how much torque the cvt can handle. It has been stated that v8 powered vehicle could be driven by a cvt. During early development the belts were like any other belt now they are a high stregnth steel mesh belt that is 30mm wide and is held together by 9 to 12 0.2mm steel bands. The belts are designed to hold a certain maximum load therefore my thoughts are someone will come out with a belt that has a higher load and will work properly without any modifications to the pulleys etc. Then comes the power adders!

 

My base timing is at 18* and I've been looking to push the ignition curve further across the board (with e-Manage).

VQ35s may take even more timing just on the basis of having heads designed for better knock suppression.

 

The 09 CVT on the Max/Altima is significantly better than previous years from what my local Nissan tech tells me.