These two cars are almost the same size! Here's the kicker the Camry weighs almost 900lbs more! What's the weight saving measures in the Maxima, anyone!!!... The maxima is 1in longer, 2in wider and the wheelbase and height are the same!! What gives?

 

The Camry is also an ugly, boring, plain POS. In shopping for a sedan, the Camry was one I crossed off my list immediately. I looked at the Fusion, Sonata, Optima, Accord, Altima, Mazda6, and Malibu. The Camry couldn't even make that list.

 

One... You can't compare a Maxima to a Camry.

Two... The Maxima's competition with Toyota is the Avalon.

 

The Accord fits that bill also, I think its the ugliest one by far of those bread & butter mid size family haulers (max not in that category of cars). The Camry, although boring and all so common has some styling flair to it albeit current or previous one.

 

Yeah I know I have a 2011 SV!! Here's the story.... I was gasing up my Max today and a fellow asked me how I liked my car! Then he said he just bought a New Camry and said he was going to buy a Max but he wanted something bigger!! I said that the Max was bigger than the Camry and had more horses! He started to argue with me saying that his V6 Camty had more hp and was faster! Blah,blah,blah!!

 

Someone gave you bad info.

The 7th gen Maxima comes in at a rather hefty 3600 pounds (between 3550 and 3640, depending on version and accessories). The 2012 Toyota Camry comes in at between 3200 and 3450 pounds (the Hybrid is 3525), depending on version and accessories.

The Maxima uses normal weigh-saving things, such as aluminum hood, etc. I assume the Camry does the same. The primary reason for the Camry curb weight beginning 400 pounds below the Maxima is because the lighter Camrys have smaller 4 cylinder engines. The 6 cylinder Camrys are almost as heavy as the Maxima.

 

On the Toyota website, Camry---GVWR lbs 4630, Nissan website, Maxima---- curb weight 3574!!!

 

GVWR is not the same as curb weight, curb weight is the car without people, things in the trunk etc. GVWR is the max it can move safely with people, luggage, full tank of fuel etc.

 

GVWR is not curb weight. GBWR is curb weight + maximum cargo and passengers weight

 

Ah got ya! Learn something new everyday!! Thanks!!

 

I just looked on the toyota.com site and the Camry SE V6 is 3240, Camry XLE V6 3395.

The Camry is not even close to compete with the Maxima. Even with however, techwise I think its a lil notch above the Maxima.

 

LOL you should of raced him to prove your point. A close friend of mine tells me his 2008 Volkswagon Passat 2.0T is faster than mine. I was like whatever. I showed him a 0-60 on my Maxima and he was like, mine can reach 0-60 in 3 seconds. I gave up and didn't bother arguing with him. A 3 second car is like a GT-R duh... I hate it when people don't know their cars. Idiots

 

Well like it or not a V6 Cam from 07 to current can run head to head with a Max and its 1/4 mile time and trap speed is near identical.

 

Up to 80, and particularly in the 40-80 range, the Max is quicker. The torque limiter and CVT design hold the car back until 30 and again after 80. It's really only that middle range where the difference is apparent, but it's definitely there. Edmunds numbers back this up.

More's the pity, though. With a dual-clutch box and more aggressive tuning, the car would easily break 13s in the quarter.

 

IF I were to buy a Camry it would be the SE with the V6. Otherwise the Max blows away the Camry in every possible way. As someone previously mentioned, the Camry is so vanilla and boring. No road feel either.

 

The 0-60 and 1/4 times vary depending where ur reading it from... To me its useless honestly but it gives and idea I guess?... But then again we are comparing a Full size car to a mid size car...

 

My neighbor has a Camry V6 and he added TRD stickers on the bottom rear doors a couple days ago. I guess he wanted the extra 10 horsepower.

 

I would agree with that based on the test drives I did before getting my Maxima about a month ago. I was never a big fan of Toyota or the Camry, but the new SE V6 had some great acceleration. They also greatly improved their styling. I hate to say it, but I likely would have gotten the new Camry if I did not end up getting the Maxima. Of course I am glad I got the Max but the Camry was a close second IMO judging solely from the test drive that I did.

 

No comparision!
Guy down the street has the XLEV6. I can see the look in his eyes every time I drive by...."I should have bought the MAX"

 

yeah just go drive the camery it is a good car, it does everything good, or average. There is nothing i like about that car. Its just a snoozer. Then go drive the max. You will see.

I am not a fan of the accord either, but at least you can feel the road and it has some... some character.

 

Last year 308,510 Camry purchasers disagreed with that assessment.

However, 248,067 Fusion purchasers agreed with you.

 

the camry last gen exterior looked decent... but yea ive owned 2 camrys in the past when i was a teen coming from a toyota family... it was a boring car but then again, i had absolutly no maintence repair problems... it is a reliable car, even tho i never took care of it n treated like s***... i give it that

 

my friend bought a brand new camry and spent more than i did on a 2 year old fully loaded Max, and he has literally said to me "you paid HOW MUCH for that?" we've both ridden in both cars and he agrees the Max just kills it in the looks and driveability departments

 

My Mom is going to check out a camry just as I type this lol. Out of all the Mid-Size sedans/coupes Excluding the Max, The Accord is still the most reasonable choice 1. Its Reliable and has been around for a longgg time, 2. Honda Produces the car just as quick as Toyota can produce their Camry(Meaning More Spare Parts/JunkYard Cars). 3. The overall fun factor. There hasn't been a good fun american sedan in quite sometime idk what your definition of fun is but slamming my foot on the pedal and just watching my rpm's go up and the car automatically shift is kind of boring so atleast the Accord still offers and will continue to offer in the future a 6speed Manual mated to their super awesome neck-snapping torqy V6. The best part is Honda hasn't sold out to the CVT yet, Apparently next year the New Gen Accord will feature it on the 4cyl but who cares its the 4cyl and thats the only place a CVT tranny belongs.

 

lol @ the last comment. the Camry/Accord is comparable to the Altima maybe, not the Maxima. id take a 7th gen Max ANY DAY over a Honda/Toyota (unless the Toyota was a Supra lol)

 

The current camry design is horrible, toyota scrood up badly. The next ford fusion is going to rock. What is toyota thinking when u have sonata, optima and fusion breathing down its neck.

 

I would have to disagree, the new camry is an upgrade compared to the previous model, Fusion? really what you seen the new one thats coming for 2013? Its an embarassment to jaguar and aston martin for using some of their signature body styles...

 

LOL I agree. I hate it when car companies copy luxury brands. I'm just thankful that no car company bothered to copy our Maxima body style. Hyundai and Kia copied the LED's from Audi and it's sad that engineers can't make up their own unique design. The 2013 Fusion is Ford totally copied the Aston Martin Rapide. If I was the president of Aston Martin, I'd redesign the whole model line and get those concepts out and into production. All I know Nissan/Infiniti engineers better step up their game and create their OWN unique design that no car company has. The Toyota Camry might be boring but I give props to Toyota for making their own design.

 

Exactly, if Toyota pulled their head out and brought back something close to the Supra.....maybe.
Lexus currently has your only Toyota (sic) performance vehicles $$$.

 

Camry must be that good to compare it to a Max. However, it is not labeled as a 4DSC. It's a mid-size inexpensive family hauler that looks very nice 2012, starting at $23K.

If I were in the market for a mid-size sedan, that would be it. Toyota has always treated me well.

 

To each their own, but imho the Fusion is a really great looker. Originality be damned, remember the Pontiac Aztek - that was original alright, an original POS.

The Camry is an ugly looker. Interior and out. I spent the last auto show looking at, sitting in all of the family sedans, and the Camry was the most boring by far. Accord is not a nice looker either, but it drives with more spice than Camry.

I've rented plenty of Camrys in my business travels and every time I am always glad to get back to my Maxima.

I have owned 4 Hondas, I have owned 4 Nissans. I will own 0 Toyotas because they are so boring. My brother on the other hand has a Toyota Camry, RAV 4, and Avalon. He's had an entire tranny swap on the Camry because it was defective. We have totally opposite tastes. He's not a car guy, so he doesn't care. He never goes with me to auto shows, never wants to look at cars with me, just drive his boring Toyotas to / from work. I love my cars, and I love to drive, so Honda / Nissan rule over Toyotas for me.

The vast majority of Americans are not car folks. They buy the average POS just to get around in. That's why driver's cars don't sell as well as mainstream, boring cars.

yup, as I mentioned above most Americans are not car people, they buy whatever the media endorses as a good car, and never think twice. That's why Camry is a top seller, but the true car enthusiasts I know go buy Hondas and Nissans, not Toyotas. The average family of 4 will buy a Toyota because they really don't care how it drives or looks.

 

The camry and accord need a new new new look asap. Every time I see the new generation, almost looks identical to the last. That makes it boring.

 

Actually you couldn't be any more wrong... People buy the camry due to its reliability and it being economical with a price tag that is a bargain per say yet appealing to them. The same type of ppl buy honda's also, its just a brand preference. Not because its fast, sporty, great handling, etc... The majority of the Camrys and Accords sold are 4cyc.'s, not V6 with all the factory options to make it compete with the average 13 sec car worth $45k.

 

No actually I'm not wrong.

I own an Acura NSX, a true 2 door sports car. My friends who own Acura NSX's and Nissan GTRs wouldn't be caught dead in a Camry. None of them own Camry's, none!! They own Honda's and Nissans as family sedans. Everyone of us TRUE car enthusiasts despise the Camry. My friend who owns a GTR has a 4 cylinder Accord to drive as a daily beater. It's far more rewarding to drive than a 4 cylinder Camry.

The only folks whom I know that own Camry's are pretty boring folks who really are not into cars.

 

I got beat the other day by a V6 camry on my stock maxima :-(
they are a little faster than stock maximas I give them credit for that

 

incase you guys dont know stock/stock the v6 camry is faster then the 7th gen....just saying

 

LoL... did you not understand what I posted? You are comparing NSX and GTR buyers to Camry buyers? WTF? And yes it would make sense on why they wouldn't own one. Since when do you have to depise a camry to be a true enthusiast?

Its like me comparing aston martin buyer to the new 2013 Fusion just because it looks like one they'll buy one... lol

 

LOL @ the folks who buy a Maxima / Camry to beat in a drag race.

My Maxima is my daily beater while I navigate the urban jungle. It provides a ton of fun when I'm not in my NSX.

I understood your point, I think you missed mine. TRUE car enthusiasts tend not to buy the Camry. Because it's hella boring and ugly to boot. In my discussions with fellow car enthusiasts, the Camry is a none-item. We do discuss family sedans, such as the new Ford Fusion (because of its advanced tech), Nissans, various Hondas, for our practical driving needs. Toyotas / Camry do not enter into the equation.

 

I got your point hense why I broke it down in my post prior.

So let me get this right a Supra owner that owns a Camry as a beater isn't a "TRUE" car enthusiast? Just because he has a camry? But a GTR owner can own a $20k Accord and be bad ***? LMAO

The tech in the Toyota tecnology isnt far behind, and yes I do agree Ford's tech is far ahead from the average automaker but lets be honest here you own a Maxima with what type of technoloy to compare to the fusion? I'm done man this is getting dumb.

 

It's not a matter of right or wrong. It doesn't really matter what you or your friends think in your own circle. The fact is Camry is the best selling mid-size sedan in the country. You don't buy a Camry because you think you are getting a $25K Maserati. You buy a Camry because you want to be shuttled from place to place without any drama in a comfortable fashion. The Camry as the Accord is not meant to be a car enthusiasts best dream at $25K. They are meant to be inexpensive family transportation and are more reliable than the Maxima according to CR.