8th gen Max
8th gen Max
Don't remember this being discussed:
http://wot.motortrend.com/we-hear-ne...#axzz2IueQchm4
"Designer Nakamura also told AN that the next Maxima sedan would have a significantly more interesting appearance. A new Maxima is expected in 2014 or 2015, and will be lighter and more fuel-efficient than the current model."
"The next Maxima will be very aggressive, Nakamura said."
http://wot.motortrend.com/we-hear-ne...#axzz2IueQchm4
"Designer Nakamura also told AN that the next Maxima sedan would have a significantly more interesting appearance. A new Maxima is expected in 2014 or 2015, and will be lighter and more fuel-efficient than the current model."
"The next Maxima will be very aggressive, Nakamura said."
Last edited by gizzsdad; Jan 24, 2013 at 09:33 AM.
"Of course, we’ve heard Nissan over-promise exciting design several times before. Back in 2009 we were told the Maxima would return to its sporty past and have an aggressive, four-door coupe design. Instead, the current Maxima turned out to be a stretched, engorged version of the Altima. Its creased and rippling sheetmetal was certainly alluring, but far less exciting than what we expected from Nissan’s promises."
Jake Holmes isn't gonna hold his breath.
I personally disagree and think that Nissan hit a home run with the 7th Gen's. Only have a short list of things that I would have changed. It will be very interesting to see how different the 8th Gen's are.
Jake Holmes isn't gonna hold his breath.
I personally disagree and think that Nissan hit a home run with the 7th Gen's. Only have a short list of things that I would have changed. It will be very interesting to see how different the 8th Gen's are.
Very sketchy article.
'Back in 2009 we were told . . ."
That is a strange statement. We saw (at least I saw) early photos of the 7th gen in December 2007, the Smyrna assembly line began producing the 2009 Maxima in January of 2008, I saw it in person at the Nissan assembly plant in February of 2008, saw it in person at the Atlanta car show in March of 2008, and the 7th gen 2009 was on sale at all Nissan dealers on June 26th, 2008.
'Maxima would return to its sporty past . . . '
Again. when compared with the 6th gen, the 7th gen did indeed return toward its sporty past; lower, wider, more powerful, quicker and sharper turning (turning radius reduced by a whopping four feet), and a far more aggressive appearance.
'expected in 2014 or 2015 . . .'
Monte and I posted here back in summer 2011 that the 8th gen Maxima would arrive as the 2015 model year in spring of 2014. We have not wavered on that statement since we each posted it, and yet here we are in 2013 and a major car mag seems totally uninformed as to when the 8th gen Maxima will arrive.
As I said, this is a very sketchy article.
'Back in 2009 we were told . . ."
That is a strange statement. We saw (at least I saw) early photos of the 7th gen in December 2007, the Smyrna assembly line began producing the 2009 Maxima in January of 2008, I saw it in person at the Nissan assembly plant in February of 2008, saw it in person at the Atlanta car show in March of 2008, and the 7th gen 2009 was on sale at all Nissan dealers on June 26th, 2008.
'Maxima would return to its sporty past . . . '
Again. when compared with the 6th gen, the 7th gen did indeed return toward its sporty past; lower, wider, more powerful, quicker and sharper turning (turning radius reduced by a whopping four feet), and a far more aggressive appearance.
'expected in 2014 or 2015 . . .'
Monte and I posted here back in summer 2011 that the 8th gen Maxima would arrive as the 2015 model year in spring of 2014. We have not wavered on that statement since we each posted it, and yet here we are in 2013 and a major car mag seems totally uninformed as to when the 8th gen Maxima will arrive.
As I said, this is a very sketchy article.
Last edited by lightonthehill; Jan 24, 2013 at 02:50 PM.
My projections for the 8th gen are:
- Longer in length (but not by much)
- Longer wheelbase to increase passenger volume
- Power increase? If it does not by much to make it worth wild
- trunk space to remain the same
- fuel tank to remain @ 20glns
- What VQ? same 35de with direct injection maybe? (hense better fuel economy)
- Obviously reworked CVT
- Manual tranny? yeah I think they pass on this one also (everyone is reverting to auto trannies in the industry if not CVT)
Those are my major projection, parking assist, lane departure and all the other good jewels are all a given since almost every car now has it as an option if not standard.
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- Longer in length (but not by much)
- Longer wheelbase to increase passenger volume
- Power increase? If it does not by much to make it worth wild
- trunk space to remain the same
- fuel tank to remain @ 20glns
- What VQ? same 35de with direct injection maybe? (hense better fuel economy)
- Obviously reworked CVT
- Manual tranny? yeah I think they pass on this one also (everyone is reverting to auto trannies in the industry if not CVT)
Those are my major projection, parking assist, lane departure and all the other good jewels are all a given since almost every car now has it as an option if not standard.
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I like the reduced weight and significantly more interesting part. To be fair, the jump from 6th to 7th gen was quite significant as well, what with +35hp, and the much more dynamic "liquid motion" design.
You would think, but blind spot monitoring is UNAVAILABLE on the all new Pathfinder so who knows. Even my middle of the road Mazda 6 came with it. I was a bit disappointed my new Max didn't come with it either, you get used to having it.
Don't remember this being discussed:
http://wot.motortrend.com/we-hear-ne...#axzz2IueQchm4
"Designer Nakamura also told AN that the next Maxima sedan would have a significantly more interesting appearance. A new Maxima is expected in 2014 or 2015, and will be lighter and more fuel-efficient than the current model."
"The next Maxima will be very aggressive, Nakamura said."
http://wot.motortrend.com/we-hear-ne...#axzz2IueQchm4
"Designer Nakamura also told AN that the next Maxima sedan would have a significantly more interesting appearance. A new Maxima is expected in 2014 or 2015, and will be lighter and more fuel-efficient than the current model."
"The next Maxima will be very aggressive, Nakamura said."
Very sketchy article.
'Back in 2009 we were told . . ."
That is a strange statement. We saw (at least I saw) early photos of the 7th gen in December 2007, the Smyrna assembly line began producing the 2009 Maxima in January of 2008, I saw it in person at the Nissan assembly plant in February of 2008, saw it in person at the Atlanta car show in March of 2008, and the 7th gen 2009 was on sale at all Nissan dealers on June 26th, 2008.
'Maxima would return to its sporty past . . . '
Again. when compared with the 6th gen, the 7th gen did indeed return toward its sporty past; lower, wider, more powerful, quicker and sharper turning (turning radius reduced by a whopping four feet), and a far more aggressive appearance.
'expected in 2014 or 2015 . . .'
Monte and I posted here back in summer 2011 that the 8th gen Maxima would arrive as the 2015 model year in spring of 2014. We have not wavered on that statement since we each posted it, and yet here we are in 2013 and a major car mag seems totally uninformed as to when the 8th gen Maxima will arrive.
As I said, this is a very sketchy article.
'Back in 2009 we were told . . ."
That is a strange statement. We saw (at least I saw) early photos of the 7th gen in December 2007, the Smyrna assembly line began producing the 2009 Maxima in January of 2008, I saw it in person at the Nissan assembly plant in February of 2008, saw it in person at the Atlanta car show in March of 2008, and the 7th gen 2009 was on sale at all Nissan dealers on June 26th, 2008.
'Maxima would return to its sporty past . . . '
Again. when compared with the 6th gen, the 7th gen did indeed return toward its sporty past; lower, wider, more powerful, quicker and sharper turning (turning radius reduced by a whopping four feet), and a far more aggressive appearance.
'expected in 2014 or 2015 . . .'
Monte and I posted here back in summer 2011 that the 8th gen Maxima would arrive as the 2015 model year in spring of 2014. We have not wavered on that statement since we each posted it, and yet here we are in 2013 and a major car mag seems totally uninformed as to when the 8th gen Maxima will arrive.
As I said, this is a very sketchy article.
based on the sale figures over the years they have been declining
Year Nissan Maxima
U.S. Sales Nissan Maxima
2002 98,502
2003 86,758
2004 76,367
2005 75,425
2006 69,763
2007 52,574
2008 47,072
2009 53,351
2010 60,569
2011 58,737
2012 59,349
2013 YTD * 20,104
Year Nissan Maxima
U.S. Sales Nissan Maxima
2002 98,502
2003 86,758
2004 76,367
2005 75,425
2006 69,763
2007 52,574
2008 47,072
2009 53,351
2010 60,569
2011 58,737
2012 59,349
2013 YTD * 20,104
interesting where u find them numbers?
Weren't those the numbers Nissan had originally projected? With the 7th ten at least..
02 was the year that it was intentional to cut Maxima production as the 02 Max was starting the move upscale and the 3rd gen 3.5 Altima was taking over the "4DSC" slot. Production went from 135K to 90 something K for the the Max as a result. Also alot of those sales are "fleet" as Hertz, Enterprise and the National/Alamo family tend to buy Maxima's and rent them as Premium cars.
Last edited by MONTE 01&97 SE; Jun 12, 2013 at 02:41 PM.
I never see any ads for the Maxima whatsoever, aside from a general dealer ad in the Sunday paper, along with all of the other models.
Possibly since the Altima is styled very closely now,engine is pretty close, and Nissan spends a bunch on TV ads for it, many more people might walk in for a look and decide the Altima gives them what they want for thousands less.
I'm just speculating.
Really hope they make it more aggressive and with more Hp. At least 320hp
And also improve the Paint quality Nissan has been putting out. There paint is just to soft and chips too easily !!
Otherwise this would be my
Last Maxima/Nissan.
And ill i also keep and eye out for the new Acura tl when new design comes. If they change that ugly nose. It would be a hit for me
And also improve the Paint quality Nissan has been putting out. There paint is just to soft and chips too easily !!
Otherwise this would be my
Last Maxima/Nissan.
And ill i also keep and eye out for the new Acura tl when new design comes. If they change that ugly nose. It would be a hit for me
When I went into the dealership I had intended on a Altima which I thought was a better value. Only after I test drove the Max I realize it was the car for me.
I don't know if I had waited another year and compared the newer Altima with all the bells and whistle if I would have made the same choice.
In all, people that are seeking value will most likely choose the Altima over Maxima when they compare the data of both cars.
I believe that that this time around Nissan will have to cross the line to separate both vehicle, even if it takes them onto Infiniti's turf.
I don't know if I had waited another year and compared the newer Altima with all the bells and whistle if I would have made the same choice.
In all, people that are seeking value will most likely choose the Altima over Maxima when they compare the data of both cars.
I believe that that this time around Nissan will have to cross the line to separate both vehicle, even if it takes them onto Infiniti's turf.
I for one refuse to buy any Max 5th gen up, it has become more urglier each new gen, wonder why sales numbers keep declining ?
I am getting older each year so are you, if that's what you mean my face getting uglier. I know someone might get offended, but I am going to say it anyway, for 40K+ plus car, I have a lot of choices. I'd rather buy a V8 Genesis which is more luxury, has more powerful engine, quicker, has better performance and better styling, and more importantly, unlike Maxima claimed to be sport sedan, it is rear wheel drive car.
I am getting older each year so are you, if that's what you mean my face getting uglier. I know someone might get offended, but I am going to say it anyway, for 40K+ plus car, I have a lot of choices. I'd rather buy a V8 Genesis which is more luxury, has more powerful engine, quicker, has better performance and better styling, and more importantly, unlike Maxima claimed to be sport sedan, it is rear wheel drive car.
I am getting older each year so are you, if that's what you mean my face getting uglier. I know someone might get offended, but I am going to say it anyway, for 40K+ plus car, I have a lot of choices. I'd rather buy a V8 Genesis which is more luxury, has more powerful engine, quicker, has better performance and better styling, and more importantly, unlike Maxima claimed to be sport sedan, it is rear wheel drive car.
And I was kidding about your face. Was more making a joke about the word urglier. Lol. All in good fun man.
Styling is a subject matter so I won't argue it neither.
I like my 4th gen Maxima and I have Titan pickup truck that I like a lot. But, if Nissan really wants to make Maxima a true sport sedan, they should make it rear wheel drive, provide manual transmission option and more sport tuned suspension, drop 10k from the price then I would consider to buy it again.
Lots of misunderstanding and misinformation here. Too many posters clearly have not kept up with what is going on. MONTE 01&97SE laid it our for us earlier in this thread, but it was as if he was spitting in the wind, as his post was seemingly ignored.
As MONTE said, Nissan announced in 2002 that THE MAXIMA WAS GOING TO BE TAKEN UPSCALE TO NEAR-LUXURY, AND ITS 4DSC POSITION IN NISSAN'S LINEUP WOULD BE FILLED BY THE ALTIMA. And Nissan immediately redesigned the Altima, followed by the softer, plusher 4th gen '04 Maxima. Nissan did exactly what they had said they were going to do. Nissan said the intent was to target the Altima for 250K to 350K copies annually, while the Maxima was intended to sell around 70,000 copies per model year.
But Maxima fanatics of olden days did not read and did not listen, and complained LOUDLY that the '04 Maxima was not the 4DSC they were expecting. So Ghosn finally threw up his hands and announced that, although the Maxima would stay upscale as Nissan's flagship sedan, it would be moved back toward the sporty side. And the 7th gen Maxima absolutely moved the car back toward the sporty side with a lower, wider posture, aggressive styling, larger wheels, smaller turning radius, quicker turning, smaller sporty steering wheel, etc.
Sales numbers for the Maxima (as with most medium/large cars) for the 2008 thru current model year reflect one thing - our country has just gone through the worst depression since my childhood in the 1930s. Any implication that Maxima sales numbers are an indication the car may be disappearing are greatly misguided.
This 7th gen Maxima was designed in 2006, with forms and dies and assembly line equipment designed and installed in 2007. First test copies of the 2009 Maxima began coming down the Smyrna assembly line in January 2008, going on sale nationally in June of 2008.
And yet we have posters here trying to compare a Maxima designed in 2006 with the new and latest Altima. That may be meaningful to a buyer who has to choose right away, but is totally meaningless to buyers who plan well ahead, or who automatically buy the first model year Maxima of each new generation (like me). The 8th gen 2015 gen Maxima will be here within the next twelve months, and will leave the new Altima behind once again.
And the Hyundai Genesis over the Maxima? Really? Even with the Genesis being a FAR newer design, I just don't see that. Genesis prices start several thousand above the base Maxima, and run several thousand above the most expensive Maxima. And I quote from Consumer Reports on the Genesis: 'this isn't a sports sedan, and the ride is a bit fidgety.' Also, CU says the Maxima is ABOVE average in reliability, while the Genesis is only AVERAGE.
Put this another way - Nissan aims the Maxima toward a more exclusive and more discriminating clientele, with 70K copies as the goal. Maxima buyers are not looking for a vehicle that they will see everywhere they go; they want something a little more special than that.
Enough with the beatdown of this now long-in-the-tooth 7th gen Maxima. It is time to get excited about what the new 8th gen Maxima will be like.
As MONTE said, Nissan announced in 2002 that THE MAXIMA WAS GOING TO BE TAKEN UPSCALE TO NEAR-LUXURY, AND ITS 4DSC POSITION IN NISSAN'S LINEUP WOULD BE FILLED BY THE ALTIMA. And Nissan immediately redesigned the Altima, followed by the softer, plusher 4th gen '04 Maxima. Nissan did exactly what they had said they were going to do. Nissan said the intent was to target the Altima for 250K to 350K copies annually, while the Maxima was intended to sell around 70,000 copies per model year.
But Maxima fanatics of olden days did not read and did not listen, and complained LOUDLY that the '04 Maxima was not the 4DSC they were expecting. So Ghosn finally threw up his hands and announced that, although the Maxima would stay upscale as Nissan's flagship sedan, it would be moved back toward the sporty side. And the 7th gen Maxima absolutely moved the car back toward the sporty side with a lower, wider posture, aggressive styling, larger wheels, smaller turning radius, quicker turning, smaller sporty steering wheel, etc.
Sales numbers for the Maxima (as with most medium/large cars) for the 2008 thru current model year reflect one thing - our country has just gone through the worst depression since my childhood in the 1930s. Any implication that Maxima sales numbers are an indication the car may be disappearing are greatly misguided.
This 7th gen Maxima was designed in 2006, with forms and dies and assembly line equipment designed and installed in 2007. First test copies of the 2009 Maxima began coming down the Smyrna assembly line in January 2008, going on sale nationally in June of 2008.
And yet we have posters here trying to compare a Maxima designed in 2006 with the new and latest Altima. That may be meaningful to a buyer who has to choose right away, but is totally meaningless to buyers who plan well ahead, or who automatically buy the first model year Maxima of each new generation (like me). The 8th gen 2015 gen Maxima will be here within the next twelve months, and will leave the new Altima behind once again.
And the Hyundai Genesis over the Maxima? Really? Even with the Genesis being a FAR newer design, I just don't see that. Genesis prices start several thousand above the base Maxima, and run several thousand above the most expensive Maxima. And I quote from Consumer Reports on the Genesis: 'this isn't a sports sedan, and the ride is a bit fidgety.' Also, CU says the Maxima is ABOVE average in reliability, while the Genesis is only AVERAGE.
Put this another way - Nissan aims the Maxima toward a more exclusive and more discriminating clientele, with 70K copies as the goal. Maxima buyers are not looking for a vehicle that they will see everywhere they go; they want something a little more special than that.
Enough with the beatdown of this now long-in-the-tooth 7th gen Maxima. It is time to get excited about what the new 8th gen Maxima will be like.



