Electric fan upgrade
Electric fan upgrade
Has anyone put in an upgraded electric fan to replace or ad to OEM? I had a 09' Saleen S331 (Ford F150 platform) before the max and the stronger electric fan, made a huge noticeable difference over OEM. Any benefit for our set ups?
I never heard of any OEM fan being undersized or causing the engine to overheat. Fans when needed run on high speed, much faster than the earlier engine/belt drives. As such they do not run continuously. Cars are designed to run in extreme hot and cold conditions (tundra to desert) which you will probably never encounter. To me it is just a waste of money. In short don't fix something unless it is known to be broken.
I never heard of any OEM fan being undersized or causing the engine to overheat. Fans when needed run on high speed, much faster than the earlier engine/belt drives. As such they do not run continuously. Cars are designed to run in extreme hot and cold conditions (tundra to desert) which you will probably never encounter. To me it is just a waste of money. In short don't fix something unless it is known to be broken.
Daily driver vs. track use are two different applications.
I agree with what you say about under hood heat but your efforts would be better served by pushing or scavenging the under hood heat OUT instead of trying to push additional cooler air in.
The electric fan on my bracket car was switched so I could activate it after making my pass down the track, it didn't need to be on during the run because on the ram-air effect through the radiator. My hood hinges were also altered to prop the cowl area of the hood upward to let engine heat OUT.
I agree with what you say about under hood heat but your efforts would be better served by pushing or scavenging the under hood heat OUT instead of trying to push additional cooler air in.
The electric fan on my bracket car was switched so I could activate it after making my pass down the track, it didn't need to be on during the run because on the ram-air effect through the radiator. My hood hinges were also altered to prop the cowl area of the hood upward to let engine heat OUT.
The electric fan on my bracket car was switched so I could activate it after making my pass down the track, it didn't need to be on during the run because on the ram-air effect through the radiator. My hood hinges were also altered to prop the cowl area of the hood upward to let engine heat OUT.
To the original poster, unless you plan to bracket race your car and need cooling between runs with the engine off, then don't bother with your fans. FWD applications are different than RWD applications with a clutch-type fan.
On a FWD car, the A/C fan will kick on as needed to draw air through the condenser, then the second fan has two speeds to draw enough air through to cool the engine while sitting in traffic. once you're at speed on the highway, there's enough airflow through the front of the car that the fans usually don't even come on unless you're driving through the Sahara.
Also, note these cars are designed to operate at certain temps. overcooling the engine causes loss in fuel efficiency, power, and increase in emissions. These cars have a thermostat in them, and they spend much more time than you'd think closed- especially when you overcool the radiator. In those cases, you're just wasting electricity (which means load on the alternator, which means horsepower) by cooling water that's only going to sit there and wait till the engine is hot enough to need it.
FWIW, my 240SX race car with NO fan and the stock radiator only goes above 210 when it's 90+ outside. when it's in the 60s and 70s, my water temps never go over 200. (well there is a fan, but it's wired to come on at 205 and that only happens on really hot days or when the car is stopped.)
At speed, the cowl area is a high pressure area and air goes IN. That's why your A/C fresh air intake vents are there.
To the original poster, unless you plan to bracket race your car and need cooling between runs with the engine off, then don't bother with your fans. FWD applications are different than RWD applications with a clutch-type fan.
On a FWD car, the A/C fan will kick on as needed to draw air through the condenser, then the second fan has two speeds to draw enough air through to cool the engine while sitting in traffic. once you're at speed on the highway, there's enough airflow through the front of the car that the fans usually don't even come on unless you're driving through the Sahara.
Also, note these cars are designed to operate at certain temps. overcooling the engine causes loss in fuel efficiency, power, and increase in emissions. These cars have a thermostat in them, and they spend much more time than you'd think closed- especially when you overcool the radiator. In those cases, you're just wasting electricity (which means load on the alternator, which means horsepower) by cooling water that's only going to sit there and wait till the engine is hot enough to need it.
FWIW, my 240SX race car with NO fan and the stock radiator only goes above 210 when it's 90+ outside. when it's in the 60s and 70s, my water temps never go over 200. (well there is a fan, but it's wired to come on at 205 and that only happens on really hot days or when the car is stopped.)
To the original poster, unless you plan to bracket race your car and need cooling between runs with the engine off, then don't bother with your fans. FWD applications are different than RWD applications with a clutch-type fan.
On a FWD car, the A/C fan will kick on as needed to draw air through the condenser, then the second fan has two speeds to draw enough air through to cool the engine while sitting in traffic. once you're at speed on the highway, there's enough airflow through the front of the car that the fans usually don't even come on unless you're driving through the Sahara.
Also, note these cars are designed to operate at certain temps. overcooling the engine causes loss in fuel efficiency, power, and increase in emissions. These cars have a thermostat in them, and they spend much more time than you'd think closed- especially when you overcool the radiator. In those cases, you're just wasting electricity (which means load on the alternator, which means horsepower) by cooling water that's only going to sit there and wait till the engine is hot enough to need it.
FWIW, my 240SX race car with NO fan and the stock radiator only goes above 210 when it's 90+ outside. when it's in the 60s and 70s, my water temps never go over 200. (well there is a fan, but it's wired to come on at 205 and that only happens on really hot days or when the car is stopped.)
You miss interpreted my statement, the use of my electric fan was after the (at speed) pass and was used to blow hot air out during the return road drive and pit area until the hood could be opened.
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