Hello,
I was wondering what type of Gas does the new Max take? 87 or 91?
Also I am confused on Nissan connect on the SL, can I start the car with the iPhone app?
Thanks
I was wondering what type of Gas does the new Max take? 87 or 91?
Also I am confused on Nissan connect on the SL, can I start the car with the iPhone app?
Thanks
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91 is recommended but not required - the car will operate on 87.
The only way to remote start the car via the app is through NissanConnect Services which is only available on the Platinum trim, not the SL.
The only way to remote start the car via the app is through NissanConnect Services which is only available on the Platinum trim, not the SL.
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I use 89 and I haven't had any issues.
Like coaster said, only the platinum has nissanconnect services. My FOB will turn my car on from inside the house though, it's the first one I've had that had a strong enough signal to do this.
Like coaster said, only the platinum has nissanconnect services. My FOB will turn my car on from inside the house though, it's the first one I've had that had a strong enough signal to do this.
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Like coaster said, only the platinum has nissanconnect services. My FOB will turn my car on from inside the house though, it's the first one I've had that had a strong enough signal to do this.
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I use 89 and I haven't had any issues.Like coaster said, only the platinum has nissanconnect services. My FOB will turn my car on from inside the house though, it's the first one I've had that had a strong enough signal to do this.
Same Here. I can start my car from my apartment before I even enter the parking garage. I had to almost have a clear line of sight for my previous vehicles.
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Gotta agree with this!Originally Posted by R1600Turbo
Gas is so cheap right now, saving a couple bucks each fill up to put anything lower than recommended octane in it doesn't make much sense.
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Impossible to find 91 gas here in Georgia (and maybe the southeast?) so I have to resort to 93. And just recently all the stations around Atlanta collectively agreed to start charging 40¢ more for 93 (vs 87) up from 30¢.
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Well that's the east coast for ya. 
My local station is $1.95 / 2.05 / 2.15 right now for 87/89/91. As a driver of a premium recommended vehicle, the extra $.20 a gallon isn't much.

My local station is $1.95 / 2.05 / 2.15 right now for 87/89/91. As a driver of a premium recommended vehicle, the extra $.20 a gallon isn't much.
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Not cheap out in here in the LA area the cheap stuff 87 is still $2.99 ish and $3.25 ish for 91, that's at my local gas station here in Manhattan Beach. Some are more some a tad less.Originally Posted by R1600Turbo
Gas is so cheap right now, saving a couple bucks each fill up to put anything lower than recommended octane in it doesn't make much sense.

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In my neck of the woods premium is .20 cents a gallon more than regular which equates to about $3.00 per tank more in extra cost. I definitely would not be driving a car requiring or recommending premium gas if I could not afford the extra $12.00 per month for the correct gas.
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Using lower octane fuel is not going to damage your engine unless you start tinkering with it and increase the compression.
Here's the skinny of it, our car is rated at 25 mpg, if your spread between regular and premium is 20 cents a gallon, you are effectively getting 22.75 mpg by using premium. If your spread is 42 cents like it is here in Alabama (1.79-2.01-2.21) you are effectively getting 20.25 MPG.
Yes, you'll lose a little power (5ish hp MAYBE), but I can vouch that my butt dyno sure as heck can't tell the difference.
Here's the skinny of it, our car is rated at 25 mpg, if your spread between regular and premium is 20 cents a gallon, you are effectively getting 22.75 mpg by using premium. If your spread is 42 cents like it is here in Alabama (1.79-2.01-2.21) you are effectively getting 20.25 MPG.
Yes, you'll lose a little power (5ish hp MAYBE), but I can vouch that my butt dyno sure as heck can't tell the difference.
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Well said - if we buy the car for its 300 horses - then we should use the recommended gas - it just makes sense...Originally Posted by R1600Turbo
Gas is so cheap right now, saving a couple bucks each fill up to put anything lower than recommended octane in it doesn't make much sense.
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Look at it this way. You have three identical cars that only have one difference.Originally Posted by rbaker100
Well said - if we buy the car for its 300 horses - then we should use the recommended gas - it just makes dense..,
Car A: 300hp, 20.25mpg
Car B: 295hp, 25mpg
Car C: 300hp, 13.25mpg
Which one do you buy?
If you choose A, then you should use Premium.
If you choose B, then you should use Regular.
If you choose C, you live in the white north and you should use Premium.
Here in the midwest they are gouging us big time. Any time someone trips at Whiting and gets a boo boo they jack up the price. For top tier the spread from 87 to 93 is almost .70. Generic gas is closer to .45 between 87 and 93. However I put in top teir gas because of junk in the lower gas brands. I just skip a beer or two when I am out and it all evens out.
If car recommends xx octane then you should use it. When I had my 01 it got premium. And remember octane does not equal quality or detergent level. That's what the Top Teir grading is for.
If car recommends xx octane then you should use it. When I had my 01 it got premium. And remember octane does not equal quality or detergent level. That's what the Top Teir grading is for.
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I've only put Premium in my both my 7th gen and 8...I get the best performance and mileage. We recently started seeing ethanol free gas here in upstate NY. Been using that, and performance and mileage has been even better. 

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I agree - Ethanol Free is best - the only stations that consistently sell it here are BP and an occasional Shell station. Guess Shell's cost is less for premium with Ethanol added.Originally Posted by spidgeon
I've only put Premium in my both my 7th gen and 8...I get the best performance and mileage. We recently started seeing ethanol free gas here in upstate NY. Been using that, and performance and mileage has been even better.
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Try this site
pure-gas.org
The Ag lobby has been forcing ethanol on us without any performance advantage. Pure gas always gets more miles per gallon. Be aware that E85 is worse. Write your representatives to oppose it's mass implementation or least leave us choices to get the fuel we want.
pure-gas.org
The Ag lobby has been forcing ethanol on us without any performance advantage. Pure gas always gets more miles per gallon. Be aware that E85 is worse. Write your representatives to oppose it's mass implementation or least leave us choices to get the fuel we want.
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I have owned nothing but Maximas for over thirty years, and always use premium the first eighteen months, keeping careful records of MPG, etc. Then I switch to midgrade (89 octane) for the rest of the time I own each car. There is absolutely zero difference in MPG between 89, 91 and 93 octane. I have also never been able to tell the difference in performance between those three octanes, but would expect electronic devices to measure a slight difference.
But the only times I tried regular (87 0ctane), I could tell the difference, and even experienced hesitation a few times. So I make it a point to never use regular (87 octane) in my Maximas. The fuel system we have on Maximas was not intended to operate well on regular fuel.
But the only times I tried regular (87 0ctane), I could tell the difference, and even experienced hesitation a few times. So I make it a point to never use regular (87 octane) in my Maximas. The fuel system we have on Maximas was not intended to operate well on regular fuel.
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But the only times I tried regular (87 0ctane), I could tell the difference, and even experienced hesitation a few times. So I make it a point to never use regular (87 octane) in my Maximas. The fuel system we have on Maximas was not intended to operate well on regular fuel.
Light - were you using Ethanol laced 89?? If so based on your history - why use anything else?? Just curious - I have tried over the 20 years to use unlaced premium...thanks for the reply...Originally Posted by lightonthehill
I have owned nothing but Maximas for over thirty years, and always use premium the first eighteen months, keeping careful records of MPG, etc. Then I switch to midgrade (89 octane) for the rest of the time I own each car. There is absolutely zero difference in MPG between 89, 91 and 93 octane. I have also never been able to tell the difference in performance between those three octanes, but would expect electronic devices to measure a slight difference.But the only times I tried regular (87 0ctane), I could tell the difference, and even experienced hesitation a few times. So I make it a point to never use regular (87 octane) in my Maximas. The fuel system we have on Maximas was not intended to operate well on regular fuel.
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Anyone else having trouble with this math?Originally Posted by ATDoel
Here's the skinny of it, our car is rated at 25 mpg, if your spread between regular and premium is 20 cents a gallon, you are effectively getting 22.75 mpg by using premium. If your spread is 42 cents like it is here in Alabama (1.79-2.01-2.21) you are effectively getting 20.25 MPG.
If the car is rated at 25, it's 'supposed' to get 25 on PREMIUM ... not 22.75.
OP, are you saying it's effectively 22.75 compared to the price of Regular gas? That's an odd comparison. I think the better way to put it is that if you use Regular gas (87 octane), you'll probably get around 22.75 mpg.
Look, the car is tuned for Premium fuel, and if you drop down in octane, you will lose power AND gas mileage. So the money you save by buying the cheaper 87 octane stuff will be offset by reduced mileage, and in the end you really aren't saving much, if any.
This topic has been beaten to death in every car forum on the internet, and the bottom line is use Regular gas if you want to, but you're probably fooling yourself if you think you're gaining much.
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But the only times I tried regular (87 0ctane), I could tell the difference, and even experienced hesitation a few times. So I make it a point to never use regular (87 octane) in my Maximas. The fuel system we have on Maximas was not intended to operate well on regular fuel.
I completely agree. Very little difference between 89-93 octanes. 87 will also create the knocks and pings which is almost impossible to get rid of. We bought the Maxima for a reason...and it's not a cheap car. What you put in, is what you'll get out. If you want to put 87 in your car, than you probably should have bought a Camry, lol.Originally Posted by lightonthehill
There is absolutely zero difference in MPG between 89, 91 and 93 octane. I have also never been able to tell the difference in performance between those three octanes, but would expect electronic devices to measure a slight difference.But the only times I tried regular (87 0ctane), I could tell the difference, and even experienced hesitation a few times. So I make it a point to never use regular (87 octane) in my Maximas. The fuel system we have on Maximas was not intended to operate well on regular fuel.
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Totally agree...Originally Posted by Mike_TX
This topic has been beaten to death in every car forum on the internet, and the bottom line is use Regular gas if you want to, but you're probably fooling yourself if you think you're gaining much.
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You see a lot more 93 at sea level areas. I'm at 2200 ft so our 91 acts similar to your 93 at sea level. When I go to Denver I just stick with 89.Originally Posted by coasterswim
Impossible to find 91 gas here in Georgia (and maybe the southeast?) so I have to resort to 93. And just recently all the stations around Atlanta collectively agreed to start charging 40¢ more for 93 (vs 87) up from 30¢.
Cheat sheet: Lower the number faster the burn, high the number slower the burn. Factor air density in different areas.
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If the car is rated at 25, it's 'supposed' to get 25 on PREMIUM ... not 22.75.
OP, are you saying it's effectively 22.75 compared to the price of Regular gas? That's an odd comparison. I think the better way to put it is that if you use Regular gas (87 octane), you'll probably get around 22.75 mpg.
Look, the car is tuned for Premium fuel, and if you drop down in octane, you will lose power AND gas mileage. So the money you save by buying the cheaper 87 octane stuff will be offset by reduced mileage, and in the end you really aren't saving much, if any.
This topic has been beaten to death in every car forum on the internet, and the bottom line is use Regular gas if you want to, but you're probably fooling yourself if you think you're gaining much.
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Originally Posted by Mike_TX
Anyone else having trouble with this math?If the car is rated at 25, it's 'supposed' to get 25 on PREMIUM ... not 22.75.
OP, are you saying it's effectively 22.75 compared to the price of Regular gas? That's an odd comparison. I think the better way to put it is that if you use Regular gas (87 octane), you'll probably get around 22.75 mpg.
Look, the car is tuned for Premium fuel, and if you drop down in octane, you will lose power AND gas mileage. So the money you save by buying the cheaper 87 octane stuff will be offset by reduced mileage, and in the end you really aren't saving much, if any.
This topic has been beaten to death in every car forum on the internet, and the bottom line is use Regular gas if you want to, but you're probably fooling yourself if you think you're gaining much.
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Agree, I get my best fuel economy with premium. If the car is able to advance timing with 91 over 87 you will see a gain in MPGs. I don't see much however between 89 and 91 but I live at 2200 ft.