Sounds like a rough quarter and year for Nissan. The Max could be in trouble after all.

Nissan plans to "reduce the size of its product lineup by at least 10 percent"—which presumably means eliminating some of Nissan's less-successful models.

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2019/07...ll-98-percent/

 

Yeah I don’t see another Maxima personally.

 

This would also explain why the used car market is so overpriced at dealerships...been that way for a solid 5 months that I discovered, maybe a bit longer. It's like the dealerships are trying to push the new cars, incentives are high, and the used cars are so over priced if you're looking around that 2 year old or newer...it just doesn't make sense right now to buy used unless they are much older and well out of warranty.

 

This is happening with alot of auto makers. Maybe not as much as Nissan, but quite a bit. Automakers are jacking up the prices of new vehicles, while their residual values are the same or less. It makes way more sense to purchase a used car that's a year or two old. Nissan also has developed quite a bad reputation with their cvt's. They also don't update their cars enough. The current rogue is almost identical to a rogue you could've purchased in 2014, and the 2020 rogue is no different. They've added some features, but the power train is the same and it looks almost identical. Same goes for alot of nissan vehicles. Also, I don't think the u.s. Is totally ready for automated vehicles. I can only speak for myself, but I personally love driving my car. I wouldn't even consider buying a car with autonomous driving at this point. Nissan needs to focus on 2 things : better transmissions, and newer, better models, especially crossovers

 

Neither do I...They will not invest in developing a new generation of the Maxima

 

They were already working on the 9th Gen Maxima in a statement made last year by Nissan Management. This was 16 months ago. https://www.carscoops.com/2018/03/ni...ntra-due-2019/

 

That was then. A lot most likely changed internally and still doubt it will be out. We shall see.

 

If there will be no Maxima, no Altima with the VQ...and my only choice is a CVT......More than likely...I will not own another Nissan. Infiniti is doubtful as well with the closest dealer over an hour away. Now....I would consider a Z...I just need a back seat

 

I hope that this does not mean the end of the Maxima. I am really looking forward to upgrading in a few years to the newly designed Maxima. It would be a shame if the Altima becomes the Flagship.

 

If they do drop the Max, I would like to see Nissan take the Max interior and put it in the Murano and upgrade it. I have always thought the Murano was a good looking SUV/Crossover. A lot better looking than the Rouge. When I drove one earlier this year, I was expecting the same quality as the Max. But I was pretty disappointed. Everything seems a step or two down in the Murano compared to the Max - Bose system, quality of the interior parts, features of the infotainment system, no **** interface for the infotainment system at the end of the arm rest, etc. Time will tell. As my 2017 Max only has 11,000 miles on it, I guess I will keep it a bit longer although as an old fart with 2 knee replacement, I would like a crossover at some point as it's easier to get in and out of the vehicle. The Max is pretty low for these old knees. .

 

I doubt they'd get rid of the Maxima, as it's one of the most recognizable names of any model. They can drastically change the next generation so that it serves a different market niche (perhaps an electric or a full-on sports car to replace the aging Z).

 

The Maxima will be discontinued and the Altima will be the only midsize sedan in Nissans lineup. No need for both of them. The Altima has been groomed for this. Sad to see the Maxima go....

 

... said no business person, ever.
"Recognizable names" and "Nissan fighting for its life" are incongruent here, bro.

 

I agree, even though they are not even in the same ballpark in terms of quality. Nissan also has the Q50......which is essentially an Altima that has less room......more power and more money.

 

So the Q50 is the same quality as an Altima? That’s interesting. I’m not at all familiar with the Q50, but that surprised me.

 

Nissan is already several years into working on the 9th gen Maxima (they began planning for it in spring 2017). I expected to see it released in spring/summer of 2022 as the 2023 model year Maxima. That is only two years from now. I think Nissan may still keep the Maxima, as the Altima would be a joke as their 'flagship'. But, if they don't, I may well end my forty-some years of owning only Datsun/Nissan vehicles (and thirty-five years of owning only Maximas. If that happens, I will know the world has passed this old codger by, and it will be time to throw away my keys and let my wife do all the driving. She has owned nothing but Ford pickups since 1984, and is now looking at a 2019 or 2020 Ford Ranger, which will be over $42K fully equipped. Life would really be very strange for me without a Maxima. I don't look forward to long road trips in a pickup, even though it would be a four door with lockable metal Tourneau cover for ample luggage room. Long road trips in my Maximas were always such a joy. I have driven Maximas in every state in the U.S. except Alaska and Hawaii, and in most Canadian provinces. But life moves on, not always for the better.

 

Well, they are quite similar. The most disappointing factor in the 48K Q50 is that fact that the seating is FAKE LEATHER. And it is very noticeable. It is a deal breaker in my book. If I want vinyl seats, I'll got back to 1975. Even in the Red Sport 400 with actual leather, it is not nearly as nice as what I see in the Max......and that car is 60ish

 

Lol. Rear wheel drive vs front wheel drive, normal transmission vs CVT...different engines...yeah, pretty similar.

 

No no no....I am talking car to car comparo from a typical buyer..not performance oriented folks like us. We get the differences.......most do not. Nissan does not give a **** bout us or they would not have a CVT and a 6M would be available.

 

aren’t all cars fake leather? I read only the really expensive cars have real leather

 

Typically, the leather are on the tops of the seats, all of the places your body touches. The Q50 are all PLASTIC . Most leather furniture is like that as well, just surfaces you sit on

 

So by similar you mean 4 door cars? Like the Maxima is similar to a Porsche Panamera...

And you know a CVT offers better acceleration and fuel economy than a manual, traditional auto or even a DTC, right?

 

I owned the infiniti G35 when it came out in 2003 and after that one I had a G37. They both had leather seats but the Q50 had vinyl seats unless you bought the most expensive which was well over 50K and the leather there will not have the look and feeling of the Maxima. The interior design very plain and low rent plastic for the price. And the exterior has not changed since 2013. Another thing, due to the low lease prices you can see Q50's all over. The Maxima on the other hand is a car not as popular so you fell that you are driving something different.

 

I think you know what I mean. I know what the CVT provides......I would sacrifice MPG......Acceleration...depends on the CVT...........Well....If I want to drive a tractor.....I'll cut my grass.

I do not what the vibrations, drones, clunks.

On a side note..My parents, at almost 80, like the CVT....acutally dont even realize it sucks.

 

Well I'm 56 years old and I quite honestly really like the CVT in my Maxima. It has no problem with off the line performance and merges in traffic extremely well. And I have driven a whole lot of cars in my lifetime.

 

I am 53. I have driven a lot of cars as well. It is Ok.....I would rather not have one, or at least be given a choice.

 

From Autoblog

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/07/30/...minate-models/

No special insight here, but reaffirms that the outlook for the Maxima might be bleak. Of course their assessment of the car is a bunch of crap IMO.

 

"Maybe a new Z car will be coming as a re-branded Infiniti Q60? If so, there will probably be plenty of folks ready to turn their noses up at it.''
If ^ is true.....I would not turn my nose up at it...I welcome a back seat

 

Yeah, think about the name Chevy Impala! Where is it going?

 

I feel like Nissan needs to at least add a standard transmission or a 7 speed automatic to the Maxima. That’ll bring more buyers to the Maxima.

 

Do you really think so? For all the complaining about the CVTs Nissan uses, most (if not all) of the noise about it is from enthusiasts. Enthusiasts are a small market that wouldn't generate enough sales to make a difference.

The average person just doesn't really notice or care about it all that much. In fact if you tell the average buyer that the CVT provides a smoother drive and is more fuel efficient, they'll likely prefer those benefits to a regular transmission.

 

This is 100% correct^^ Most folks that own a Nissan do not even know that they have a CVT or even what the difference is......

Enthusiasts hate it, Most buyers dont give a ****ttt.

 

I agree with you guys on that. But what I don’t understand is why does Nissan put a CVT in the Maxima and call it a 4DSC? I know they have the resources to take the transmissions from any of the current Infiniti’s. But like you all say only the car enthusiast would care about that.

 

this is very true ! my mom just got a brand new 2018 Accord, and it was cheaper than used cars. they discounted it and made it an obvious choice w the pricing.

 

Hmmm if enthusiasts hate it so much, why do they buy it?

 

Marketing. That's pretty much it. That being said, a powerful V6, quick 0-60 and sleek styling makes the Max quite a bit sportier than the average grocery getter even if it's not a true sports car.

 

Don’t get me wrong I love the Maxima. I had a 1997 SE and it was a blast to drive! Funny thing is I was gonna get a 6th gen Maxima but didn’t cause of a bad deal. My fiancé actually drives the refreshed 2008 model which I enjoy from time to time. Right now I drive a 2013 Acura TL with a 6 speed automatic transmission with paddle shifters and always think why couldn’t the Maxima have a transmission like that. My fiancé’s Maxima does take off faster than my car and she has the early generation CVT.

 

I didn't. Because of CVT.....

 

Yet you call a dated 6 speed "sportier" and would want the Maxima to have "a transmission like that"

 

I don't really see how Nissan can avoid cutting the Maxima, it's a very low volume car, not a money maker. It's in the same slot as the mid-sized Altima, which sells much better. Just about every other car manufacturer has cut their sedans already. It doesn't matter that have already invested time & resources in the next generation... companies are more than willing to kill off brands that aren't profitable. The bean counters always win in the end