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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 02:53 AM
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Ok, so somebody has to have a 5th gen and measured how much to adjust the perch for a specific drop. It seems like everybody says you can't estimate, but for all you 5th gen guys who have installed them already.......where's a good place to start? I'm looking for about a 3" drop. APPROXIMATELY, what's the distance between the body mount and the top of the strut mount. Just trying to save a little time since you guys already got them installed and are just fine tuning. I'm sure at least one person has measured the distance.............right?
Old Jun 23, 2005 | 01:24 PM
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i don't really have the noise anymore.. what i did was tighten the spring with just enough load to keep the spring perch from moving without needing the collar, so i used the spring perch collar on the height locking collar and applied opposite torques with the 2 dinky little "wrenches" wich locks the bottom collar great. i didthis about 4 days ago and the spring perchhasnt even moved any. so far so good.
Old Jun 23, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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Can you guys give an estimate of the amount of drop you can have these at before major rubbing issues?
Old Jun 23, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by upstatemax


so much for KSports claim that they "dont have a noise issue like D2".....


That really sucks that they have this problem. Especially sice the D2 noise issue is easily fixable, it is usually because people did not tighten the bottom alan bolts enough.

hope this gets resolved for you guys. I would get on their case about this since one of the selling points for them was that they were supposed to be noise free.
We do not have noise issue with our coilovers, period. I consider an "issue" to be a problem with the majority of the product". We have had 2 customers out of over 85 sets of maxima sold that had noises, and as far as i know they were resolved with adjusting the perches, or springs.

The only issue we ever had with our coilovers was with dust boots last year, they were full size and caused problems, being binded, and tearing, ending up in an exposed shaft, and uneven spring travel. We have since replaced all of the old dustboots.

If there is any defect in any coilover we told customers they are welcome to send them back for replacement. We stand by the product 100%

If you have a noise with yours, i have not heard, please call us so we can review the install, and if necessary replace the parts if anything is not working properly.

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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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man i am so SPLIT between ksports and illumina/hr set up.
I see that there are A TON of different settings. (btw WAHT IS CAMBER?).
another thing, people were talking about 9/7 something and 9/6, as if they sell different TYPES of ksports, wahts this about?
anyway i'm so confused on how to set the settings to be right that i dont think i'll buy ksports until i learn about them, seeing as how some settings feel "just as comfortable as stock" and others are bumpy as hell, yet both feel completely awesome. i want to maintain at least an inch of drop no matter what i do, am i ever going to NOT have a choice of my droppage??
im leaning more towards ksports after reading this thread, i just need those things clarified^^
Old Jun 23, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by chillin014
man i am so SPLIT between ksports and illumina/hr set up.
I see that there are A TON of different settings. (btw WAHT IS CAMBER?).
another thing, people were talking about 9/7 something and 9/6, as if they sell different TYPES of ksports, wahts this about?
anyway i'm so confused on how to set the settings to be right that i dont think i'll buy ksports until i learn about them, seeing as how some settings feel "just as comfortable as stock" and others are bumpy as hell, yet both feel completely awesome. i want to maintain at least an inch of drop no matter what i do, am i ever going to NOT have a choice of my droppage??
im leaning more towards ksports after reading this thread, i just need those things clarified^^

The Kspot would be a fantastic buy (from what I've heard) for the quality and the fact that you can adjust so much and have the best setup. If you just want a smooth ride and dont know or really care to make many different adjustments then the illumina/H&R would be your best bet.

I would have bought these Kspots with the GD if I hadnt gotten some AGX/S-techs for an amazingly good price.
Old Jun 23, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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oh yeah, is there anything else needed besides ksports when i install them? such as other components.
Old Jun 23, 2005 | 07:18 PM
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well dang, i dont KNOW if i care...maybe i could begin to care..i dont want to just go the "idiot" route.
Old Jun 23, 2005 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by chillin014
oh yeah, is there anything else needed besides ksports when i install them? such as other components.
nope unbolt stock, bolt in Kspots done.
Old Jun 23, 2005 | 07:23 PM
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tight!, do you have these deezy?
Old Jun 23, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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nothing wrong with just going witht he Illumina/H&R route. Many buy coilovers for the adjustability and desire to setup the ride perfect themselves by adjsuting the many paramaters that can be adjsuted. If you think you most likely would want to do more with suspension than just lowering then coilovers could be for you. But if you just want to lower for the look and improved handling and reduced body roll then sturt/spring combo maybe best, and chper.

Originally Posted by chillin014
tight!, do you have these deezy?

I wish. I dont I have some AGX and S-Tech in my room waiting for some dust boots and an impact wrench. Maybe down the line if I get tired or desire more from my suspension then I'll go coilovers but for now I'm sure I'll be happy with the AGX/S-Tech for now.

Originally Posted by chillin014
i read that plus those accessories like bump stops and dustboots it ends up being a comparable price.

Dust boots say another $70 st most, in addition to strut/spring costs.
Old Jun 23, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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i read that plus those accessories like bump stops and dustboots it ends up being a comparable price.
Old Jun 23, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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but dont you need bumpstops and something esle too?
Old Jun 23, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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Just a quick reminder, let's try not to let this thread get OT...

I can say, though, that if you set the damping right, these coilovers ride exceptionally well considering how stiff the springs are. They will destroy ANY spring/strut combo in terms of handling and responsiveness, and the ride will be the same or better over rough pavement and small bumps. The only part where it gets really bumpy with these coilovers is on really big bumps and uneven highway surfaces (like I95 around Philly). They also can be a bit of a pain in the **** to set properly for your tastes.

Here's a link or two to suspension selection threads...

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=403620
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=401721
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=93537
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=400156
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=404775
Old Jun 23, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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Oh, I understand, sorry I forgot it was for those already owning ksports.
Ill check those links, thanks.
Old Jun 23, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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It's also for people who just want to ask about them! I'm just saying that another thread might be better for discussions about other suspensions. Sorry if I came across badly.
Old Jun 23, 2005 | 09:44 PM
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well i just took my first test drive today in my ksports. i liked the way the rode. i only had to readjust the rears once because it was slammed. i might have to still raise them up just a little because it seems they are a little lwoer in the fronts. i am happy with the drop, i hardly have any wheel gap. the rode well for the test ride. firm but very comfortable. i havent toyed around witht he firmness yet. i will tomorrow when i do my brakes. i am getting a lot of noise alos. not only over bumps, but when i make a left hand turn, my passenger side front clunks. i only hand tightened the perch under the spring and then locked into place with the wrenches. i will probably tighten up the spring a litle more just to see how that helps. i will try and get some pics tomorrow. got my 2k2s on there and i think it looks great. where do you guys host them at?

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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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ok going over my coilovers before I put them in I think I found another source of noise. The black lower perch is slightly smaller then the actual strut mount. At moments when tourqe is high going to the side it is enough to make the strut mount move back and forth, thus tapping against the black lower perch. Now this is just something I see and it may be totally off but I plan on putting some grease in there as well.
Old Jun 25, 2005 | 12:08 AM
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i keep getting this horrid noise only when i turn. its a horrible creak. it doesnt happen all the time and it happens more on the passenger side. can i be too low? someone mentioned something about control arms being strait. i noticed mine arent straight, the are actually higher near the tire side. should i not be that low? i will retighten everything tomorrow and i will let you guys now what happens.

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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Laly
i keep getting this horrid noise only when i turn. its a horrible creak. it doesnt happen all the time and it happens more on the passenger side. can i be too low? someone mentioned something about control arms being strait. i noticed mine arent straight, the are actually higher near the tire side. should i not be that low? i will retighten everything tomorrow and i will let you guys now what happens.

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Sounds like you need some grease between the springs and the rubber washer thingies. I used wheel bearing grease.
Old Jun 25, 2005 | 07:24 PM
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Ksports

Okay, so I just installed my Ksports this morning, and also my new rims as well. (I just picked up a set of Gram Lights 57pro's). Performance is MUCH better than my last set up. (well, it doesn't say much since I was on Tein S-Techs and stock struts ) But, steering response and handling seems to be noticably better. The ride is firm, but not too firm. I must say, from what most other members have said, I don't think the ride is bouncy at all. It could use just some fine tuning. As far as noise issues, a few clicks here and there, but nothing too serious. I don't drive my car every day, so I'll leave it until next saturday when I'll go over it again and try and iron out the small issues. Overall, Very pleased.

Oh, and by the way, for any guys who haven't installed their coilovers yet. Before I put mine in, I was trying to find out a good starting point to dial in the lower body mount perch, so I could get an approximate height. Well, my bottom perch (black collar below adjustable body mount) is set flush at the bottom of the body mount. I measured the height from the ground to the center of the wheel opening. The front measurement is 24" and the rear is 24.5". The drop is even, and the car is pretty slammed. I'd guess about a 3" drop. I'll post pics a little later.
Old Jun 26, 2005 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by d00df00d
Sounds like you need some grease between the springs and the rubber washer thingies. I used wheel bearing grease.
i took the wheels off yesterday and was turning it by hand. you are right. the black washer between the spring and the perch is the culprit. i will try some wheel bearing grease. thanks

as for my drop. i have about 26" from the the center of the wheel well on the fender to the ground. i am happy with the drop. but now after hearing 24", i think i can go a little lower.
Old Jun 26, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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i took the wheels off yesterday and was turning it by hand. you are right. the black washer between the spring and the perch is the culprit. i will try some wheel bearing grease. thanks

as for my drop. i have about 26" from the the center of the wheel well on the fender to the ground. i am happy with the drop. but now after hearing 24", i think i can go a little lower.
I must admit, I love the way it looks, but it's not exactly practical. I'm going to run it for now, but eventually raise it back up. Once I get all the pics, I'll post them up so other guys can see what the drop looks according to location on the coilovers.
Old Jun 26, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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i counted the number of turns for mine. my fronts i turned 60 times up from the highest setting. the rears i turned 13 times from the highest setting. and 26"s is how it left me.

when i mean the highest setting is that i take the sleeve off. once it grabs the threads, that is what i consider the highest setting.
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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how high did u guys raise your coilovers? i'm slammed around 3" in the front but i was thinking of raising it to 2.2" F and 1.8 in the Rear . what do u guys think? i'm planning on putting my 18" in tomorrow so not hoping for any rubbing issues.
Old Jun 29, 2005 | 11:40 AM
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My drop is something like 2.5" F, 2" R, and I had to remove the bottom collars on the fronts to get it that high without preloading the springs. Needless to say, this is a temporary solution... I'll tackle it again and figure out a better one when I get the chance.
Old Jun 29, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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sounds like a good height. my b-pipe hits the floor alot when i go off ramps. can't wait to get my wheels on this afternoon.
Old Jun 29, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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next time someone has their front wheel(s) off, would it be possible to take a picture of their brake line brackets? i just want to make sure mine are done correctly, they seem rather loose....

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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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here are my pics

before


after


front gap


rear gap


night shot


there it is

tell me, does the rear look lower than the front. they both measure the same but it looks like there is less wheel gap in the rear than in the front. i guess that means i just have to go lower in the front. what do you guys think?
Old Jun 29, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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Stock wheel gap is higher in front because the fender has to accomodate for suspension travel when the wheel is turned. That's why it may look like your front is higher. If your ground clearances are even (front vs. rear), then you're fine.

That said, especially since it's a front-heavy front-wheel drive car, there will be some good benefit to handling and traction with a higher rear relative to the front.

Your call. Do what makes it feel right for you.
Old Jun 30, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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I am installing these tomorrow morning. If any has any pointers or advise, please let me in on it, I could use all the help I can get
Old Jun 30, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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i just put in tein basics, which I love!!....but it was a nightmare.... putting the Ksports in would be like a dream, lol ... everything is there! .. its just bolt out, bolt in! .... with the tein basics, its a nightmare cause you have to re-use some of the stock suspension which means you need spring compressors which makes the install 50% harder and longer ... I bet Ksports could be done in 2 hours, 30 mins a tire! ... I do like my teins but what a BIATCH to install
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as long as everything goes as planned, you should be done in 2-3 hours. i would have some all purpose grease ready. put it on the spacer between the spring and the upper perch beneath the spring. people have said that it keeps the noise down. i have not put any on mine yet, but that is what i plan to do since it is making some noises.

easy as pie man, just a swap. good luck.
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Thanks fellas, didn't get to it, but I am diffinitly doing this tomorrow
Old Jul 2, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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I'm getting some clicking noise myself. I think my passenger side axle is binding up. when the car is on the ground and rolling it sounds like its making a clicking noise on every rotation of the wheel. But it only makes this sound when in gear. The noise stops when the clutch is pressed in though. I've got a 1.75" gap of threads from the lower collar to the upper collar thats used to adjust the preload on the springs. Anyone got any ideas?
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Holy Crap, I Didn't Get Top Hats For My Rear Coilovers!!!!!!!! Who Do I Contact????????
Old Jul 3, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 09:54 AM
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FOUND ANOTHER SOURCE OF NOISE.

I noticed that if the bottom mount collars get loose, the mount will sometimes actually move on the threaded body. Guess that kinda kills loosening the collars as a temporary way to kill the noise.

The collars have to be tight. Per Ksport support's suggestion, I used a hammer on the collar wrench to tighten the collars, but I made sure to clean the surfaces between the collar and the top mount first. Now, even though I have no bottom sleeves, there is no movement and no noise.

Hope that helps some people. I also included this in my previous post on the fifth page of the thread about killing the noises:

http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...&postcount=138
Old Jul 3, 2005 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by max929
Holy Crap, I Didn't Get Top Hats For My Rear Coilovers!!!!!!!! Who Do I Contact????????
You can buy new ones, but most people just re-use the stock one from their stock strut.
Old Jul 3, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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anybody know if these are made for a 3rd gen?

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