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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 10:02 PM
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best spring for a 2300 lbs max

This is for my 96 drag car. Last year it weighed 2450 plus me 190. It will realistically weigh 2300 with me included next year. Most of the weight is on the front end. I will be using kyb gr2 struts which should support any spring since i will most likely not be dropped very much.

So what are your thoughts?
Old Nov 1, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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Go with some coilovers at least 300f/250r in/lbs. But since you are dragging only you may want a higher rate out back. Just dont go over 500, theres no point.
Old Nov 1, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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I really want to stay away from coilovers. I can't justify spending that much money when the same results can be had much cheaper.

I'm leaning towards Eibach Pro-kit Springs first and sprints second
Old Nov 1, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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Since the car is so light, go with the springs that drop it the most (like 2.2f, 1.8r) and you'll end up with a stiff suspension and roughly stock ride height.
Old Nov 1, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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go buy some POS coilvers on ebay.... they are cheap and will get the job done. IF you keep out eyes open GC can be had for less than $200.

Sprints and Eibachs will work, but you asked whats the BEST spring.... I told you.
Old Nov 1, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by fanaticrockford
I really want to stay away from coilovers. I can't justify spending that much money when the same results can be had much cheaper.

I'm leaning towards Eibach Pro-kit Springs first and sprints second
The prokits have a high spring rate in the back but they are progressive and their initial rate is prety soft, which meens your going to have to compress them a bit before they stiffen up. In a FWD drag car you want to eliminate as much weight transfer as possible, so I'de go with a linear spring. I know eibach makes linear springs of pretty much every size you could want in 25lb/in increments all the way up to 1000+lbs/in. You would just need to find out what size spring you need to use on illuminas (or better yet Koni yellows) and figure out how high of a spring rate you wanna go in the back.

With the Koni Yellows you could use a spring as stiff as you would ever want. The illuminas will handle some pretty serious spring rates too and a 350lb/in linear spring out back on a 2300lb car with most of the weight over the front wheels is gonna be pretty stiff already.

BTW 2300lbs with you in the car is some pretty insane weight reduction, care to tell us how you've pulled that much weight out of the car?
Old Nov 1, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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Springs are designed for the cars that weigh 3k+ lbs with stock weight distribution. I honestly don't think they will work well for you.

My vote goes for coilovers.
Old Nov 1, 2006 | 07:42 PM
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Really it's down to either coilovers or ground controls. And since the car is 1) so light 2) not daily driven in any way, traditional concerns about a comfort/handling balance don't apply. And I *think* ground controls allow you to adjust ride height. So just throw the cheapest crap you can on there.

Really, to get traction in a FWD drag car is easy. 26-inch slicks, stiff @ss ground controls, and the rear jacked way up and/or tall/narrow tires in the rear.
Old Nov 2, 2006 | 04:51 AM
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u can find ground controls cheap...i just picked mine up for 120...i will be selling 2 500lbs ERS springs soon and possibly a set of progress
Old Nov 2, 2006 | 12:55 PM
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man....2300lbs...you could serious set your car up suspension/chassis wise and turn some heads at an autox or road coarse! I wish mine weighed that little!
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I still wanna know what you did to get your car that light.

Did you cut it in half?
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Well first off it currently does not weigh 2110. It will though. Last year when it weighed 2450 i still had a sunroof,gas tank,drivers leather seat,glass windows,stock sawblades in back,stock metal fenders,all windows were power,power steering (I may keep it),stock steering wheel.

Those are just the things i can think of that will be changing.
Everything else on the car is already stripped.

Thanks for the opinions.
Old Nov 2, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by fanaticrockford
Well first off it currently does not weigh 2110. It will though. Last year when it weighed 2450 i still had a sunroof,gas tank,drivers leather seat,glass windows,stock sawblades in back,stock metal fenders,all windows were power,power steering (I may keep it),stock steering wheel.

Those are just the things i can think of that will be changing.
Everything else on the car is already stripped.

Thanks for the opinions.

Ok so what did you do to get it to 2400lbs then? Thats still the lightest 4 door sedan I've ever heard of
Old Nov 2, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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Ok so what did you do to get it to 2400lbs then? Thats still the lightest 4 door sedan I've ever heard of
cf hood
reoved seats
removed radio and all speakers
removed front and rear bumper supports
aftermarket y pipe
removed brake rotor sheilds
removed exhaust heat sheilds
gutted trunk lid
removed antenna
removed spare
removed jack and holder
removed all ac components
removed all heater components
removed all cruise control components
removed all emission components
Removed Carpeting, cardboard, and everything else in trunk
Removed Plate Under Steering Wheel
Removed plate behind back seat
Removed Sound deadening under hood
removed Floor mats
Switch from glass headlights to plastic (95/96-97-99)
removed Stock Fog lights
Lighter Battery
Removed rear view mirror
removed Underbody hitches
Removed Sound Deadening under carpet and firewall
Remove airbags

Thats an old list but basically all there is is a steering wheel 4wheels and an engine.
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Since it's for drag only why do the spring rates even matter? Aren't you gonna zip tie the fronts and block the back ones anyway? That said I'm selling a pair of 350lb 10" springs for $50 right now if that helps any.
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BEJAY1
Since it's for drag only why do the spring rates even matter? Aren't you gonna zip tie the fronts and block the back ones anyway? That said I'm selling a pair of 350lb 10" springs for $50 right now if that helps any.

Ding ding, winnAr.

I'm with Bejay, who cares. A drag only FWD car needs only two things, a front that doesn't raise up and a rear that doesn't squat down. Ties and blocks are what you need. If you are going to drive the car to the track then you might as well get something that is as comfortable as possible, because obviously you are lacking a little in that department.

Of course if you want to continue your weight loss theme... get some all aluminum bodied coilovers and that will help shed even more weight. My Ksports are 20lbs lighter than the Tok Blues and Tein S-Techs they replaced...
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
Ding ding, winnAr.

I'm with Bejay, who cares. A drag only FWD car needs only two things, a front that doesn't raise up and a rear that doesn't squat down. Ties and blocks are what you need. If you are going to drive the car to the track then you might as well get something that is as comfortable as possible, because obviously you are lacking a little in that department.

Of course if you want to continue your weight loss theme... get some all aluminum bodied coilovers and that will help shed even more weight. My Ksports are 20lbs lighter than the Tok Blues and Tein S-Techs they replaced...

I woulda said the same thing but I dont think this setup is suitable for driving on the street ever (even for short periods of time), as the back end would be bouncing and swinging around as well as knocking your teeth out. If the car is trailered than ties and blocks are the best way to go. If not get the stiffest linear springs out back that you can.
Old Nov 12, 2006 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DrKlop
Springs are designed for the cars that weigh 3k+ lbs with stock weight distribution. I honestly don't think they will work well for you.

My vote goes for coilovers.
I agree my car is 2450lbs and i have H&R's and my car is HIGHER than stock ride height and very stiff . because people must relize the spring stock or aftermarket is made for a target weight yours is much lighter so actually the spring pushes the chassis up in the air creating MR bobble head motions . I have this badly i used around 50 200lb zip ties in the front and many rubber blocks in the rear . i can get 1.77-1.85 all day long on slicks.

but the reality is we need either coilovers or a spring made for a 2300lb car
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