Wilwood caliper question
02-10-2011, 08:09 AM
#1
Wilwood caliper question
What holds the pads in? I bought a new BBK set up second hand. They are black calipers with 4 pistons. The pads push in from the back towards the hub....but what holds them on in the rear? What stops them from backing out? I was looking at the wilwood site and some of there set ups show a retaining bolt that goes form one side of the caliper to the other to hold the pads in....my set up does not have this bolt. I am pretty sure the previous owner of this set up bought it from fastbrakes. Anyone know the answer?
02-10-2011, 04:14 PM
#3
okay, I looked up the part number to try to find a picture of what I have and here they are:
http://www.jegs.com/i/Wilwood/950/120-6811/10002/-1
This shows a cotter pin in the place of the bar and bolts. I do have these cotter pins. Is this perminate? I thought those things were just used to hold some tags and rubber bands. Anyone know?
http://www.jegs.com/i/Wilwood/950/120-6811/10002/-1
This shows a cotter pin in the place of the bar and bolts. I do have these cotter pins. Is this perminate? I thought those things were just used to hold some tags and rubber bands. Anyone know?
02-10-2011, 06:38 PM
#4
Yeah, that little pin is it. On superlites it's a more substantial bar that bolts at both ends to prevent caliper flex.
Dynalites are usually thought of as better for small cars (Miatas, etc). For a Maxima, they might be a bit small, IMO. I had superlites on mine and definitely would not have wanted to go smaller, personally. You may have some flex problems with those little guys on a maxima (or maybe not).
Dynalites are usually thought of as better for small cars (Miatas, etc). For a Maxima, they might be a bit small, IMO. I had superlites on mine and definitely would not have wanted to go smaller, personally. You may have some flex problems with those little guys on a maxima (or maybe not).
02-11-2011, 06:12 AM
#5
Yeah, that little pin is it. On superlites it's a more substantial bar that bolts at both ends to prevent caliper flex.
Dynalites are usually thought of as better for small cars (Miatas, etc). For a Maxima, they might be a bit small, IMO. I had superlites on mine and definitely would not have wanted to go smaller, personally. You may have some flex problems with those little guys on a maxima (or maybe not).
Dynalites are usually thought of as better for small cars (Miatas, etc). For a Maxima, they might be a bit small, IMO. I had superlites on mine and definitely would not have wanted to go smaller, personally. You may have some flex problems with those little guys on a maxima (or maybe not).
02-13-2011, 07:03 AM
#6
No, mounting points are different for both calipers.
The cotter pin is all that holds the pads in place vertically. the calipers slide into the slots and the rotational force form the pads when braking is taken by the caliper itself.
I ran Dynalites on my Maxima for about 3-4 years. they're fine for daily driving and track use, but you will go through pads quickly.. Superlites are a better option for our car, but wheel clearance becomes an issue as the calipers are huge. Pads are also more expensive on the Superlites, but there's also 3x the material there so the cost is offset by much longer pad life.
The cotter pin is all that holds the pads in place vertically. the calipers slide into the slots and the rotational force form the pads when braking is taken by the caliper itself.
I ran Dynalites on my Maxima for about 3-4 years. they're fine for daily driving and track use, but you will go through pads quickly.. Superlites are a better option for our car, but wheel clearance becomes an issue as the calipers are huge. Pads are also more expensive on the Superlites, but there's also 3x the material there so the cost is offset by much longer pad life.
02-13-2011, 07:46 AM
#7
No, mounting points are different for both calipers.
The cotter pin is all that holds the pads in place vertically. the calipers slide into the slots and the rotational force form the pads when braking is taken by the caliper itself.
I ran Dynalites on my Maxima for about 3-4 years. they're fine for daily driving and track use, but you will go through pads quickly.. Superlites are a better option for our car, but wheel clearance becomes an issue as the calipers are huge. Pads are also more expensive on the Superlites, but there's also 3x the material there so the cost is offset by much longer pad life.
The cotter pin is all that holds the pads in place vertically. the calipers slide into the slots and the rotational force form the pads when braking is taken by the caliper itself.
I ran Dynalites on my Maxima for about 3-4 years. they're fine for daily driving and track use, but you will go through pads quickly.. Superlites are a better option for our car, but wheel clearance becomes an issue as the calipers are huge. Pads are also more expensive on the Superlites, but there's also 3x the material there so the cost is offset by much longer pad life.
02-14-2011, 06:18 AM
#9
I am not infront of the stuff right now, but the pads a Wilwood's not sure which model but I can get that later assuming its on the box. Also, where would I find the pistion diameter without pulling the calipers back off the car? When I talked to the guy on the phone I do not remember what size he said the piston diameter but he said I have the right size for this size of car...what ever that is worth. Here is a link to the listing of the kit I have, it is p/n 14-NI-0046, it lists for $1833.
http://www.revolutionbrake.com/files...kits-06-07.pdf
http://www.revolutionbrake.com/files...kits-06-07.pdf
Last edited by cardana24; 02-14-2011 at 06:18 AM. Reason: a link would help
06-27-2011, 05:29 PM
#11
to add on to matt's comments about wheel clearance, just an FYI - with the superlites and matt's rotors I had plenty of clearance using:
G35 sedan 17x7.5's (et33)
G35 coupe 18x8's (et30)
5zigens 17x8 (et30)
G35 sedan 17x7.5's (et33)
G35 coupe 18x8's (et30)
5zigens 17x8 (et30)
06-28-2011, 12:00 PM
#12
Glad to know they clear the sedan 7.7" wheels.
I have to run a 10mm spacer to clear my CP-035s, but then again they're a +38 offset or something like that. (Custom offset for Mazda RX8 Koni Challenge car)
I have to run a 10mm spacer to clear my CP-035s, but then again they're a +38 offset or something like that. (Custom offset for Mazda RX8 Koni Challenge car)
06-30-2011, 09:36 PM
#14
Call up Fastbrakes. they used to sell several kits to fit superlites on a Max. anything from 89 to 2006 use the same brackets other than the 3-4 gen has a 12mm bolt hole. 2000+ use a 14mm bolt so you'd have to drill your spindles out to 14mm. but otherwise they're the same.
08-02-2011, 05:56 AM
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08-02-2011, 06:17 AM
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08-02-2011, 10:30 AM
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08-02-2011, 11:01 AM
#20
This may help you a little bit, this is what those came from.
kit number 14-NI-0046
http://www.revolutionbrake.com/files...kits-06-07.pdf
Last edited by cardana24; 08-02-2011 at 11:06 AM.
08-02-2011, 06:58 PM
#21
okay, I was just letting you know what the brackets are made for. I had them bolted to my car but I never used them either. The kit was purchased though percison brakes, which was bought by revolution brakes, so if you want to deal with someone that knows what kit you are talking about you may want to try Revolution brakes, but if you are not concerned with that I am sure either company can help you. If you want to run a different sized rotor, I think they charge between $100-$150 for a set of mounting brackets.
This may help you a little bit, this is what those came from.
kit number 14-NI-0046
http://www.revolutionbrake.com/files...kits-06-07.pdf
This may help you a little bit, this is what those came from.
kit number 14-NI-0046
http://www.revolutionbrake.com/files...kits-06-07.pdf
08-06-2011, 05:26 AM
#22
Not to get off topic but hiw do you know which wilwood calipers you have? I recently purchased a 4th gen eith a wileood bbk on the front but no idea what setup it is and i need ti replace the pads and rotors shortly
08-06-2011, 10:20 AM
#23
just do google images. You probably either have dynalites or superlites
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