trouble with plugs
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trouble with plugs
UPDATE: see post below
Hey guys, I was changing my plugs the other day when I found that the first coil I pulled from the rear bank was covered in oil, so I didn't change the rear spark plugs. I figured it was the seal on the valve cover so I called Dave B. and ordered a new VC and gasket and now I'm going to change out the rears.
Well, I already changed the rear VC but now I'm having trouble getting the oil out of the chamber (on top of the spark plugs). Anybody have any suggestions? I can't fit very many things down there, and I got some of the oil out, but there's still plenty in there. I almost said to hell with getting the oil out and I was going to remove the spark plug, but now I found that I can't even do that! It's almost as if there's no head on the spark plug that my socket will catch on, or something is in there blocking my socket from going deep enough to catch....
I got the other two off fine and replaced them, but cylinder 5 (of course, the one closest to the center of the car ) is the one I'm having trouble with.
CLIFFS: I can't get the spark plug out of cylinder 5, and it seems like theres somthing in there blocking my socket from making contact with the head. Any suggestions?
EDIT: oh yeah, and I forgot to mention that I found this piece inside my deep well socket when trying to remove the spark plug out of cylinder 5. what the hell is it?? The #5 coil looks just the same as the other two and there's nothing missing from the head...what the hell?
Hey guys, I was changing my plugs the other day when I found that the first coil I pulled from the rear bank was covered in oil, so I didn't change the rear spark plugs. I figured it was the seal on the valve cover so I called Dave B. and ordered a new VC and gasket and now I'm going to change out the rears.
Well, I already changed the rear VC but now I'm having trouble getting the oil out of the chamber (on top of the spark plugs). Anybody have any suggestions? I can't fit very many things down there, and I got some of the oil out, but there's still plenty in there. I almost said to hell with getting the oil out and I was going to remove the spark plug, but now I found that I can't even do that! It's almost as if there's no head on the spark plug that my socket will catch on, or something is in there blocking my socket from going deep enough to catch....
I got the other two off fine and replaced them, but cylinder 5 (of course, the one closest to the center of the car ) is the one I'm having trouble with.
CLIFFS: I can't get the spark plug out of cylinder 5, and it seems like theres somthing in there blocking my socket from making contact with the head. Any suggestions?
EDIT: oh yeah, and I forgot to mention that I found this piece inside my deep well socket when trying to remove the spark plug out of cylinder 5. what the hell is it?? The #5 coil looks just the same as the other two and there's nothing missing from the head...what the hell?
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UPDATE: Ok so I got the plug out..it seems there was some foreign material surrounding the plug, so I got enough of it out to be able to catch the head with the socket and I was able to get it out. When it came out, most of the oil came with it, but just a little bit flowed down the sides and caught on the small lip...I'm going to use my pliers to hold a q-tip to get the rest of the oil out, so that is solved
But I still would like to know what that little piece of rubber is...it almost looks like the tip of a coil, but all of my coils look fine
But I still would like to know what that little piece of rubber is...it almost looks like the tip of a coil, but all of my coils look fine
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Originally Posted by eng92
That looks like the rubber boot from your spark plug socket. All plug sockets have them so that the plug stays with the socket when installing/removing them.
Well now my car won't hold an idle...
It almost seems throttle body related, because at first it'll start up and rev to about 1k, then it'll drop and stall. But if I give it gas, it seems like the TB sticks and it holds the revs for a couple seconds after I release the pedal. This isn't a bad coil, is it? I double checked all the connections and everything's set so that's not it...what should I look for now? I really don't want to have to remove the stupid IM again..ugh
There's no SES light yet, but that might just be beacuse the car can't stay started long enough
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Check and see if all the ports are connected on the IM, most nameley the one in the rear of the IM.
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nope that wasn't it...the hose closest to the front of the car wont even reach the back one so it's not a possibility...I'm uploading a video of it right now..
EDIT: alright, youtube is horribly slow, so this might not work just yet, but it will : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYDnBh6Rtck
EDIT: alright, youtube is horribly slow, so this might not work just yet, but it will : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYDnBh6Rtck
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ok so I took off my IM, made sure everything was plugged in properly on the VC and it was, and reinstalled the IM...now everything works I must have just left something unplugged that I didn't catch the first time or something
Anyway, looking at the old VC, I don't even think I needed to replace it...it has those rubber seals that slip over the spark plug chamber and I think that the seals just slipped upward causing it to leak...they all look fine with no cracks and the appear to be in the right position...oh well at least I have a new Valve cover and the rubber seals did seem a bit more firm so they'll probably last a lot longer..
Anyway, looking at the old VC, I don't even think I needed to replace it...it has those rubber seals that slip over the spark plug chamber and I think that the seals just slipped upward causing it to leak...they all look fine with no cracks and the appear to be in the right position...oh well at least I have a new Valve cover and the rubber seals did seem a bit more firm so they'll probably last a lot longer..
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But I still would like to know what that little piece of rubber is...it almost looks like the tip of a coil, but all of my coils look fine
I cleaned the boot and the socket with acetone and superglued the boot back in the socket. Hope that's done.
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