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Old 03-06-2007, 07:18 PM
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Do I need to adjust my AFR?

So I started to datalog my O2's and have found something very interesting. I start out in the high 13's and then go down to mid 13's. Over 5800-6000 I dip into high 12's. Now I am new at this but wouldn't these numbers be what I would be looking to tune to already. Am I just lucky or am I missing something. This is right around where I was going to tune the car but it seems to already be running there.

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Old 03-06-2007, 07:35 PM
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The fact that you go richer at the top end is normal. Your ECU does that along with closing up the TB by about 15-20% IIRC (there was a thread on this over a year ago).

However, how in the world is it that you are running that a/f with no tuning? Relative to stock average a/f I'd say you're runing lean. Just so happens it lands you where your a/f SHOULD be once tuned, lol. Is this bad? well either you have extra air coming into the motor (vaccum leak) or you have a clog in your fuel system (the filter at the pump clogged or injectors are dirty).

I agree the a/f is perfect, but you have done no tuning to it, thus, there's something wrong. I'd look into it. It wont break anything, as you have perfect a/f, BUT whatever is causing it might get worse, and you might then run into problems

Just my 2 cents meng
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I thought it was "perfect" so to speak. As for something being wrong, it's a brand new car that's only seen BP Ultimate. I can't see anything being wrong with it, never had any MIL's.
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damn, well if you have no MILs, and its brand new (under warranty) enjoy the perfect factory tuning! lol
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I always thought my car was faster than normal, now I know it's not it my head.
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Old 03-07-2007, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Nietzsche
I start out in the high 13's and then go down to mid 13's. Over 5800-6000 I dip into high 12's
Read the second set of this post, should answer a few questions.
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...48&postcount=4




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The fact that you go richer at the top end is normal. Your ECU does that along with closing up the TB by about 15-20% IIRC (there was a thread on this over a year ago).
Not true. Read the post again. http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...0&postcount=47


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However, how in the world is it that you are running that a/f with no tuning? Relative to stock average a/f I'd say you're runing lean. Just so happens it lands you where your a/f SHOULD be once tuned, lol. Is this bad? well either you have extra air coming into the motor (vaccum leak) or you have a clog in your fuel system (the filter at the pump clogged or injectors are dirty).
He has stock wideband o2 sensors. Now his car has better AFR control because of it.


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I agree the a/f is perfect, but you have done no tuning to it, thus, there's something wrong. I'd look into it. It wont break anything, as you have perfect a/f, BUT whatever is causing it might get worse, and you might then run into problems
Read above post.
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That post on the TB not closing was a 5.5 gen. The 6th gens may be different. I was going to do some testing on my own to figure that out. I'm also looking to do some 0-60 and 1/4 mile timing soon. We'll see how I run. All in all I'm thinking that I don't need to waste the money on a AFR controller and a tune. More testing is needed but if that's how it runs then great!
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