Any info on that would be helpful. I know that the DEK swap has been done before. what about turbo setup along with the swap. I apoligize if this has been spoken of before.

 

urgh.
please stop posting questions like this until you've been here a few months.
read and learn. THEN ask questions.

 

TIME & MONEY...

but i think someone did... or it was a VQ30 i forgot
donate and you can search

but deff wait...
read
gain knowledge
then ask better questions

 

VQ bellhousing on the stock VG 5-speed. Stock axles. Custom engine mounts and crossmember. Then wiring. 95 ECU.

 

Nice quality help

 

heheheh.. that'll be fun. the VQ and VG trannies are totally, completely different.

 

The OP seemingly has a 92 SE.

 

Wrong all the way. Even the auto has the same guts from 1985 to 2001. The 5-speed trans from 1985 to 2001 is the RSF50A or V (V=LSD) and the only thing that changes from 3rd to 4th gen is the bellhousing to the VQ. Check for yourself. I believe even the bearings (some of which are listed 1992-2001) are the same.

Get yourself a VQ35, a VQ 5-speed bellhousing, 3.0 timing chain, wiring harness and ECU. 380$ VQ headers off Ebay and adapt your current exhaust onto it. Then motor mounts.

3.5 - 600-800$
Ebay headers - 400-450$
VQ bellhousing - 200-300$
VQ 5-speed flywheel & 5th gen clutch - 250$
3.0 timing chain - 150$ (Got full DEK stuff with 40k miles on it for my S13, including water pump for that price, just change the seals)
95 maxima wiring harness and ECU - 150$
Custom motor mounting points and crossmember - depends on whether you can do it yourself or not, it might be 30-40$ worth of steel

So in good maxima.org tradition, this is a cheap project for a DIYer that has the tools and time, and can be done for 2000 or so give or take a few hundred, but noboby's going to try it. Be fun to have IRS AND VQ35 in a maxima, without the 3500+ lbs of 6th gens (3rd gens, without the heavy VG iron block, weight pretty much the same as 4th gens).

So unless you have reservations towards the VQ because you think post 1994 Nissan sucks, this is the best bang for the buck on a 3rd gen. More involved than the VQ35 into 4th gen swap, but doable for sure. The car might even handle somewhat better with roughly 130-140 lbs off the front end. Id really like to see someone do more research into this and actually attempt it. It might dispence some of the hate toward the VQ that seems to be floating around in the 3rd gen forum, once you guys actually have the newer motors in your cars, and see for yourself how much they actually suck.

 

Heck, even a simple DE-K swap would be an upgrade. You wouldn't be able to say you have 1337 VTC's anymore though.

Not to mention the tuning options the A32 ECU affords.

 

Wrong again. I've rebuilt early and late VG trannies, several VEs, and a couple VQ trannies. the internals are different. only slightly, but they are different.

the mainshaft is the same for VE and VQ, but is different than VG.
VG and VQ share the input shaft bearing, but none of the transmissions share the input shaft.

the VG also has different gears than the VE- which shares gears with the VQ.

I dunno the transmission code for the VG tranny, but I know the guts aren't the same. I tried to steal some out of a VG core I had at the shop when I was rebuilding mine, but the reverse assembly is a COMPLETELY different design, and I had to make the part by hand- since nissan doesn't even have a part # for the piece I needed.

but no, they're not the same.

 

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That wasn't the arguement. the arguement was about VG and VQ trannies being the same internally.

 

The argument is about the VQ bellhousing swapping over to a 3rd gen. The worst case senario has this only working on a 92-94 5-speed VE, but my point is that despite it being possible to do the swap with headers for less than 2 grand, nobody's going to do it and we both know it.

Even if some of the internals are slightly different - does NOT mean the VQ bellhousing wont swap over and does not mean you cant rebuild a VE 5-speed like a VQ one. You might be right on the VG 5-speed though, but again, the code name is still the same for 85-91. The 50A (or V) striker rod died at the end of the 2001 model year, and I dont remember any mention of a change somewhere between 85 and 92, since the code is still the same (nissan has 30 and 70 code 5-speeds too, and Ive personally tried a 1991 Axxess final drive (RS5F50V) in my 95 5-speed and it WOULD have worked had it not been a VLSD - 14 bolts Diff vs 10 bolt Diff). Now why would this work from a 91 Axxess to a 95 Maxima, and NOT work from a 91 Maxima to a 95 Maxima.

The Spec V guys doing the VQ35 swap simply swap their 6-speed's bellhousing for a VQ one. Because the 2.5 and 3.5 trannys share the same code name. Nissan just switches the 'base' or bellhousing portion. Differencials are the same too. And 1992-2001 5-speeds all share the same code name - and even rebuild kits in some cases. Now why would this situation be any different?

The point is keeping the stock axles for the swap to be less of a hassle, although for having opened up my 95 5-speed trans several times due to my Clutchnet 6-puck, I would personally opt for a 6-speed, and it might even prove to be less of a hassle since you dont have to open up the trans. In this case all you would need is any manual 89-94.