300hp N/A
#1
300hp N/A
Well, I've been planning the swap for some time. I am about to buy all my parts this month. Before I proceed I would like your advice.
I'm looking to get as close to 300hp N/A as possible. Here's my parts list so far--none of it is bought... yet.
3.5 motor of course
EMU-A32 timing equipment
Alum Flywheel/Exedy stage 2
UDP
Header/Y-pipe combo
After market cams
Timing advance (not sure how far yet)
HR Pistons (to raise comp)
I would also get the rotating assembly balanced
HR retainers & shims
Phenolic spacers
Big bore MAF housing
I've been lurking this forum for awhile now. My questions are:
Is this gonna get close to 300? What else should I do, or buy or what should I not do that's on the list above??
Thanks in advance folks.
I'm looking to get as close to 300hp N/A as possible. Here's my parts list so far--none of it is bought... yet.
3.5 motor of course
EMU-A32 timing equipment
Alum Flywheel/Exedy stage 2
UDP
Header/Y-pipe combo
After market cams
Timing advance (not sure how far yet)
HR Pistons (to raise comp)
I would also get the rotating assembly balanced
HR retainers & shims
Phenolic spacers
Big bore MAF housing
I've been lurking this forum for awhile now. My questions are:
Is this gonna get close to 300? What else should I do, or buy or what should I not do that's on the list above??
Thanks in advance folks.
#3
Your going to need some serious luck, there are only a few 300 whp NA Z's around and there intake and exhaust systems are much better. Your going to need a more aggressive cam, a custom exhaust, higher compression, LOTS of timing, upgraded fuel system, and probably a few other thing I forgot. Also you might look into a different tuning system, doesn't the EMU fry coils a bit to much.
#5
I would do a custom exhaust. Its going to come down what management you use. Your going to need something to raise the rev limiter and be able to advance timing. Your target for timing should be as high as 40 degrees for WOT. If you can balance the lower it will make for smoother revs.
#8
And I think you'd have better luck getting their by using the full VQ35 and ECU. This way you could put even more aggressive cams and which will result in higher hp. And in the end you may need to do custom ITB's to gain more hp over the SSIM. And also get the V-manage.
#9
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yeah, full 3.5 swap would help. but in the end, it will mostly just get you area under the curve unless you use a v-manage to retard the cams extra up top. 285hp w/full swap > 300 hp w/3.0 timing equip IMO because of the added tq, driveablility w/big cams and total area under curve
#10
Originally Posted by SNOMAX
EMU-A32 timing equipment
Originally Posted by SNOMAX
Header/Y-pipe combo
Originally Posted by SNOMAX
After market cams
Originally Posted by SNOMAX
Timing advance (not sure how far yet)
Originally Posted by SNOMAX
HR Pistons (to raise comp)
#12
Let me qualify my statement. The type of cams it would take you to get to 300 WHP would hardly idle w/out CVTC unless you got the adapters made to dial out excessive overlap. If you do that, you're going to compromise other parts of the powerband in return for a more steady idle. Either way, dialing cams in isn't going to be as easy as getting adjustable cam gears. Just something to think about.
#14
You're right as well in a sense, but that would only apply if they were dialed into the fully retarded position. I was focusing primarily on the issue of idle quality. The cams could of course be dialed in to have the best possible idle quality and low-end power, but midrange and some top-end power would be sacrificed. Conversely, if maximum top-end power was the goal and the cams were dialed in as such, the idle would be VERY rough at anything below 1500 RPM, if it idled at all.
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Originally Posted by nismology
You're right as well in a sense, but that would only apply if they were dialed into the fully retarded position. I was focusing primarily on the issue of idle quality. The cams could of course be dialed in to have the best possible idle quality and low-end power, but midrange and some top-end power would be sacrificed. Conversely, if maximum top-end power was the goal and the cams were dialed in as such, the idle would be VERY rough at anything below 1500 RPM, if it idled at all.
#16
Of course if money isn't an issue, there's always http://www.aebsracing.com/products.p...ct=vq35stroker ...
*insert old domestic saying here*
I generally don't agree with that they say (replacement, displacement, blahblahblah) overall but for NA, it's that and tuning where the power is at, IMHO.
*insert old domestic saying here*
I generally don't agree with that they say (replacement, displacement, blahblahblah) overall but for NA, it's that and tuning where the power is at, IMHO.
#17
^^ Don't think that's in production anymore. The new hotnesses are the BC & GTM stroker kits. In any case, the bottom line is that 300 WHP w/out CVTC @ stock displacement can be accomplished with aggressive cams, headwork, tuning, and 11.5+ compression. Idle quality and bottom end power will be in the dumps, however. Give and take...
#20
Originally Posted by DasYears
lol, it was obviously a string sentence: medium cams AND NA means nitrous availabe. you know, ?? obviously NA doesnt really mean nitrous available
#22
Originally Posted by nismology
^^ Don't think that's in production anymore. The new hotnesses are the BC & GTM stroker kits. In any case, the bottom line is that 300 WHP w/out CVTC @ stock displacement can be accomplished with aggressive cams, headwork, tuning, and 11.5+ compression. Idle quality and bottom end power will be in the dumps, however. Give and take...
I'm glad you understood what I was saying about going with the full A33b. Some didn't immediately understand the purpose of that is to have a higher level of aggressive cams and retain a near normal idle and low/mid power.
That's why i'm jealous of the new Z's with the variable intake and exhaust cvtc. Their cam possibilities will be even better.
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Originally Posted by hacim105
That's why i'm jealous of the new Z's with the variable intake and exhaust cvtc. Their cam possibilities will be even better.
#25
Originally Posted by Torgus
your not goin to see 300whp.
oh and for the money invested your better off spending it elsewhere imo. good luck tho!
#29
Originally Posted by Torgus
look i'm all for it. i just don't think seeing 300whp na in a maxima is likely if at all. other than stroking it.
#33
Originally Posted by Torgus
afaik it's only been done by 2 350z and there breathing is better on both sides. which is why i think we would have to do it on racee gas.
And the ones that have done it are non-revup 350Z's which are indentical internally to maxima VQ35's. Any mod that they can do, we can do with the exception of headers (obviously). The modded FWD IM does better up top than the stock non-revup plenum/collector IMO. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
#34
Originally Posted by Sprint™
its not going to be worth it with all the money you are going to spend
I disagree with this statement. To have a 300+ hp NA maxima would be amazing. Anyone can slap a turbo and fuel system on a car. Making 300 hp in a FI'd 6 cylinder car is not that impressive, because it happens all the time.
But to make 300 hp NA takes more time, skill, knowledge, research, etc. Yes it takes more money but there is much more mad props with it.
#35
Originally Posted by slinky87
newbie 3.5 question with all the damn intake mani's from the vq30 did they do the same with the 3.5's to like mevi, Vi all thats ****?
I think I understand what you're saying, however, I don't know what you're talking about when you say ALL the IM's for the vq30de. There is the stock IM, the MEVI, and the 00VI. All of which were produced by nissan just for different cars. The stock IM also know *** the USIM was for the maxima here in the US. The MEVI was in maximas overseas and the 00VI was in the 2000 and 2001 maximas.
The 3.5 has the IM that comes on FWD cars, another for RWD cars, and one that was on the SUV's. The one on the SUV's wont work without the heads. The RWD needs to be modified to fit. Hope that clears it up for you.
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