i finished wiring up the shift_fast mod today (the original way)
and everything is working except its not working according to the way i thought it would.

the way mine works is you set the gear shifter to 1, flip the DPST switch to normal, flip the DPDT switch to 1. then to shift to 2nd gear, you flip the DPST switch to manual mode then flip the DPDT switch to third.

i know this isn't the way its supose to work. i thought i had all my wirings correct but i guess not. here is the diagram i drew:


does anything look odd or not were its supose to be?
i will recheck my wiring tomm again.

 

I did mine like this.

 

so based on your diagram, i need to remove both center connections from my DPDT switch. then tap a wire from connection 1 on the DPDT to either connection 1 a or the wire from solenoid b. then i tap another wire from connection 4 on the DPDT to either connection 1b or solenoid a correct?

 

Lets first just analyze your current setup.

The DPST switch is wired correctly. It is just there to turn the system from normal to manual operation and it does that.

Now, the DPDT centre off switch. In it current configuration when the switch is up it connects 2 to 3 and 5 to 6. What that does is connect power to sol B from 3 and 6 is not connected. So that is 2nd gear, A is off and B is on.

When you switch it down you are connecting 2 to 1 and 4 to 5 and putting power to A and B which is 1st gear.

Moving the switch to the centre position connects to nothing so no power to either solenoid which is 3rd gear.

So it will work the way it is. Down is 1st, up is 2nd and centre is 3rd. Leave your shifter in the D position.

 

just tried that. left the shifter in d position, turned on race mode, left the DPDT in 1. it does not work. car started off in 2nd gear instead of 1st. only way to get 1st gear is to put the shifter in 1st, DPDT in 1st, and race mode turned OFF

 

The DPDT has to be in the down position or what you call position 3 to get 1st gear. If you want 1st to be in position 1 you have to rewire the switch or flip the switch around.

When the switch is in the up position or 1 you are connecting 2 to 3 and 5 to 6 which is 2nd gear.

 

ahh i see. sorrry, i will try that out.

 

ok, i just tried like you said and it still didn't work.

w/ the car off, flip to manual mode, and flip the DPDT switch to middle. the car now started off in 3rd gear instead of 1.

 

I don't think you see and you didn't try it just like I said.

What part don't you understand. Read what I wrote earlier. I did not say to put the DPDT to the middle position, I already said that was 3rd gear.

Down is 1st, up is 2nd, middle is 3rd.

This is from my previous post:

" When you switch it down you are connecting 2 to 1 and 4 to 5 and putting power to A and B which is 1st gear.

Moving the switch to the centre position connects to nothing so no power to either solenoid which is 3rd gear.

So it will work the way it is. Down is 1st, up is 2nd and centre is 3rd. Leave your shifter in the D position."

 

ok that was my mistake. but thats what i been doing this whole time before.
i placed it in the D position,race on, DPDT SWITCH FLIPED TO DOWN which is 1st like you said, but the car starts in 2nd. I tried this numerous time, even tried w/ the DPDT switched up and down just to make sure.
I CAN'T GET THE CAR TO START IN 1st w/o turning to normal mode and actually being in the 1st position for the gear shifter.

i'm prob just pissing you off with this so nevermind, i'll just live with this setup

 

Man I do not know what to even tell you. Apparently it is wired correctly if I told you to wire it that way and the inventor of the thing confirmed it. Perhaps check to make sure you have the correct wires? (i.e. you don't have them mixed around and think A is B and vice versa).

 

Ok I see whats wrong. Disconnect the green and pink wires going to pins 2 and 5 of the DPDT switch and connect to a switched 12v source. If you don't have 12v going there all the time it won't work.

 

Isn't that the point of putting the shifter in the 1 position rather than D?

 

Yes it should work that way too, I have never tried that. You can't get 4th that way but then that switch setup won't give you 4th anyway.

I prefer using a clean 12v source as well i don't think using the TCM for a voltage source gives you as clean and hard a shift.

 

ok i tried 2 more different rewiring. first i followed what you said Jime. i pretty much copied your diagram. it didn't work, still got same results.

then i tried to follow grey99max's diagram


just redrew it and this is how i rewired mine:

i think my tranny is possessed or something. i put the shifter in 1st, DPDT to race mode, 3 position switch to up or 1st. the car started off in 2nd again. i'm right back to where i originally was. i tried this in the D position as well and that didn't work either.
ONLY WAY IT SHIFTS FROM 1st to 2nd is shifter in 1st and normal mode>>then race mode.
i used a DPDT toggle on/off switch rated at 3A at 125VAC but i'm sure that doesn't matter.

what the hell is going on?
i think i'm just going to leave as is cause i should of been done w/ this 2 days ago and its driving me nuts...

 

If you want to know where you went wrong just measure the voltage going to A and B in the various positions. 1st is 12v to both, 2nd is power to B only and 3rd is no power to either. Very simple and you will know exactly why its not putting the voltage there correctly and then you can correct it.

 

ok i actually figured it out. it was something really simply and dum.
one of the wires inside the tap connectors didn't even get striped, it just pinched the wire.
so, i just strip a bit of that wire and then viola it works now!