I'm not sure if a thread like this has already been made if so I'll just delete it. Not sure how much dialogue has happened about the new manifold, so far I havent seen much and hopefully this can be the place to consolidate information,rumors, and/or myths about it.

Thew new design looks better than the old aluminum design. I'm not sure how the runners are length or anything but hopefully we can get some facts in here, and see if and how well the new manifold flows than the old one.

Assuming it does flow better and would be a good improvement for older VQ35DEs, here are some part numbers incase people want to order it and slap it on their current motor.





Upper IM: 14013M - 245.54
Lower IM: 14003 - 73.02
Lower to Upper Gasket: 14040E: 15.19
manifold to TB gasket: 16293M: $14.10
Heads to lower IM gasket: 14035 - $8.65


Total: $356.50

I'm not sure if the Throttle body mounting holes are the same. i'd assume so, and if so then the Throttle body wouldn't be needed also

Prices and part number gotten from coutesy's web site.

If Daveb can do better on the prices then even better!
http://www.courtesyparts.com/maxima-...8309_8319.html

 

interesting

 

So who will test fit? I'm seriously considering this as my Max really really hates the heat lol - as I'm sure most every other one does as well.

 

I'm going to keep researching it. Once I find out it flows more than the previous plenum and by how much I very well might start making calls. Plus since the new plenum is a different material than the previous plenum I think it may handle heat better.

 

I'm sure it does flow better - I had a 09 as a rental and popped the hood - I wanted to take the UIM lol. Obviously I didn't.

I wonder though from the intake box to the actual manifold if everything would swap out or if we could use the 5.5gen parts that are there....

 

I dont see why you couldnt use your 5.5th gen parts intake wise. If there is enuff space it should be fine, but I would anticapate having to be a little creative with making it work.

it will depend on how far out or how short the elbows sticks out.
If its a little shorter then I'd say it would be fine.
a little longer it might poke into the strut hump part or other lines.

 

Would be nice if I could just borrow one - I wonder if they have a decent return policy at the Nissan dealership if things don't/can't work out with in reason....

 

someone go rent an 09 max, swap IMs real quick and test it out, lol
(idk why im even in this thread, i have a 3.0)

 

I assume this manifold is differnt from the Altima ones ? I belive there was a thread about it but never progress.

If indeed this setup work I will be making a call as well.

I wonder how much change in the LIM , I wondering if the ports are the same as previous.

I guess with this material manifold we wouldnt need the spacers.

Anyways good shat !

 

I think this is the same manifold that the altimas have. the black palstic IM.

I need to check part numbers and see if the LIM on previous vq35de are the same. If so then just the upper plenum and gaskets would be needed.

I dont think the spacers would be needed since this IM would be better resistant to heat. I'm going to PM Aaron and see if his spacer kit would have benefits on this plenum.

 

After I'm settled into the house - I may try this as a project....

 

Some has informed me that the UIM is different enough that you will need the LIM.

also this IM maybe not be ideal for nitrious users, seen to many plastic IMs blow to pieces

 

lucky im selling my nitrous then

 

The altima and maxima share this very same IM. It has the same part number

so 09 Maxima has it
07-09 Altima has it.

 

Still begs the question of .... ^all of the above^

 

umm...when checking part numbers the LIM for a 04-08 maxima versus the 09 with the new im..the part number is the same...

so unless Nissan didnt bother to give it a new part number or the LIM is still the same. Which would mean just the Upper IM and gaskets would be needed.

the part number for the upper on a 04-08 is different than the 09.

I wish there was someone around with an 09 that would let me pull it apart and physically verify

 

I might just go to the dealer to visually see the part....that may be an option

 

huh?

I guess you mean the question of will it still work? well with the LIM being the same as its always been since the vq35 in 02 then I see no reason for it not to work.

It will bolt up from what we can see. Space wise will be the next issue. The plenum seems to have this angle to it. I dont think it would hit the fire wall but only one way to find out.

 

that would be good. Help give a visual, and see how it fits and etc. if you do go please snap some pics! I search online for pics but not many take engine shots

 

here is the thread of the 08 Altima
http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/5...altima-vq.html

 

Was just referring to the whole thread - will it work and if so what modifications will need to be done, prove gains etc

n/p ill see if i can do this friday

 

Well supposly you will need the HR heads ? still not 100% sure and Travis rarely post as much.

 

I was just wondering about that... i saw in the thread where he has the motor, he says it has the HR heads for sure.

It could have HR heads but if the Lower intake manifold is still the same and can bolt up to a 04-08 and a 09 with HR heads then it should still theoretically work


travis needs to post up his progress and much much more pics.

 

Why would you need HR heads...?

 

this is motivational


I dont see why it would be needed. it maybe bolted up to HR heads but the bolt pattern is probably the same so it will make no difference

 

read that thread , Im going by what Travis and nismology brought up.

I have yet to see a 09 Maxima around here, I see them on the road but 9 times out of 10 they are older people driving it.

theres 2 at the dealership but its parked out in front, All my friends use to work at that dealer but they all left so theres alot of new mangers and I dont want to look like im about to pull a Elinor ( gone in 60 seconds )

 

eh this is what im stump on... I would do this mod in a quicky right now with boost

EDIT : Well I see at least all 3 of us are in this toghter ...

 

Fwack!!

yea... It was fun while it lasted...for about a couple of hours...

dare I price out HR cylinder heads

 

yeah man I notice u did post there but never followed up.

I would still wanna try it tho , I have the 00VI in my 2000 Maxima , I must say it stays cooler than my 2004 ( manifold wise )

Maybe we can modify the 02-08 LIM ports to the UIM of the 09s ..

altho from Travis pictures I see other things on the manifolds that I dont see on my 04. there seems to be some plugs there

 

but there werent any specifics as to why HR heads are needed. I would like to know why? they bolt up but holes dont match?

 

yea I forgot about that thread and I didnt check on it ever again.

If we knew what the exact conflicts are, then that would help to determine what would need to be done to make them work.

 

Well imma get nismology to shine some light on this. hes a walking maxima wiki

I dont see Travis updates either...

I want the mani to work ! maybe I can dream and it will come true in the moring..


Oh wait.. my car is still at the shop

EDIT : I think Stormz feels cheated ! hes awfully quiet

 

please do.. he is a wiki on maxima and other info

I would love for the manifold to work with current LIM..but maybe nismology will shine the light on how thats not possible. I cant imagine the LIM ports to the heads being that different, but if they are off by too much then it wouldnt work as you would essentially have a huge vacc leak.

your cars still at the shop? boost problems?

 

nopes First 6th gen with a 6spd swap.

got rid of the Autotragic 5ATs , the infamous 3-2 shift CLUNK !

I was hoping I would have it running for Aarons meet down here.

I guess im setback cause Courtesy Nissan didnt ship the part I need until this Monday when I order it on the 17th , they gave me a run around with the shipping dates and i finally had it this afternoon and talk to the manager.

He confirm it was shipped monday, All im missing is the carrier bearing, it bolts behind the block and holds the passenger axle in place.
the 5AT is differnt from 6SPD.

Imagine that... one part and my car can go Vroom !

 

damn thats gotta be killin you! just one part!!

but it will be worth it while your shifting yourself and enjoying each gear. Manual plus boost...aww man!!

 

The stud pattern on the 07+ altima heads are different. They are spaced out more than the OG DE heads. LIM will never fit without some pretty serious mods.

http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/3...tima-im-2.html
Starting with post # 58

Oh and the only reason HR heads were mentioned is because (last I checked) the part number between 07+ altima heads and the VQ35HR heads was the same.

 

OG FWD LIM

vs.

07+ altima LIM

 

lol yeah I retired for the evening - looks like there was a couple developments in the case since i have been gone

 

from the naked eye , it looks like the ports are differnt shape

 

Yes the altima LIM looks more oval, and wider than the OG LIM... hard to tell but it does seem like the stud pattern is off...

Plus with the ports being a large more oval size it means it wouldnt fit onto DE heads properly, even if the stud pattern was the same, so no matter how you slice it HR heads will be needed, or the DE heads would need to be heavily modified/machined for the ports to match.

HR heads are 571 each so...damn...