Axle comparo between 5 & 6 speed tranny's...

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Sep 21, 2009 | 06:55 PM
  #1  
OK, so I'm working on my swap (2 yrs. in the making, whatever) and I had both drivers side axles side by side. I didnt see any noticable differences in the 2. The ends that go into the trans appear exactly the same. Which leads me to ask, can the 5 spd axles be used in a 6spd? or are there minute tolerances that wont allow this?

I was wondering because I remember there being a shortage of 6spd axles at one point and a few people not being able to drive because their axle were bad. wouldnt it be nice if we could use 5 spd axles with the 6spd boxes? (well at least for us 4th gen swappers)
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Sep 22, 2009 | 05:55 AM
  #2  
I always understood that they were different but I've never seen them side by side to confirm.
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Sep 22, 2009 | 07:12 PM
  #3  
I always thought they were different also. If they are not visibly different maybe internally the one for the 6speed might have been built better/different to tolerate the higher power level
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Sep 23, 2009 | 02:33 AM
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Quote: I always thought they were different also. If they are not visibly different maybe internally the one for the 6speed might have been built better/different to tolerate the higher power level
true, but what about all the people running 3.5 swaps, NOS, and/or boost with the 5 speed? They seem to hold up, unless they're doing burn out contest or repeated drag launches.

I'll try to take some pics before I put the tranny in...(which is another problem, cant seem to get it on. The shifter mechanism, hits the chassis and keeps getting in the way)
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Sep 23, 2009 | 03:20 AM
  #5  
I believe the inner shaft splines are different that engage into the final drive. One is a 27mm diameter(A32) and the other is a 29mm diameter(A33b+A34+L31 etc). Would love to know if the A34 inners could work with the A32 shaft and outer CV joint though
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Sep 24, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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Quote: I'll try to take some pics before I put the tranny in...(which is another problem, cant seem to get it on. The shifter mechanism, hits the chassis and keeps getting in the way)
After having pulled the 6MT out a half dozen times, I've found the quickest way to just yank the shift tower out and stuff a rag in there; 45 minutes from jacking the car up to having the trans on the ground and split in half.
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Sep 26, 2009 | 06:07 AM
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Quote: After having pulled the 6MT out a half dozen times, I've found the quickest way to just yank the shift tower out and stuff a rag in there; 45 minutes from jacking the car up to having the trans on the ground and split in half.
I thought of that but didnt wanna try it for fear of damaging a tranny I have yet to use. But it does make total sense though. I guess its back to the FSM to see how it comes out. Thanx Pmohr
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Sep 26, 2009 | 06:11 AM
  #8  
Quote: I believe the inner shaft splines are different that engage into the final drive. One is a 27mm diameter(A32) and the other is a 29mm diameter(A33b+A34+L31 etc). Would love to know if the A34 inners could work with the A32 shaft and outer CV joint though
just eyeing them, they look to be the same size but I'll try to get a caliper to measure exactly...or maybe I should try to just stick one in to see...
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Oct 1, 2009 | 06:18 AM
  #9  
pictures?
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Oct 2, 2009 | 02:26 AM
  #10  
I have been informed today by my CV joint tech(he wrote the first book about CV joints/shafts etc) that the A32 and the Australian J31(American I35 I believe) shafts have the same shaft spline and diameter, so the 6 speed inner CV joints and 4th gen and 5th gen outer CV joints can be joined by any suitable A32/33 Maxima shaft to the 6 speed box.
I ordered a gearbox side(my passenger, USA driver side) shaft to confirm it works as this will solve a small problem of mine with the L31 Altima shaft being too long.
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Oct 3, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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Oct 4, 2009 | 08:08 AM
  #12  
Im in for pics also.
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Oct 4, 2009 | 06:26 PM
  #13  
Installed today A32 passenger(Australian driver side) driveshaft and outer CV joints into A34/L31 inner CV joints works. Untested about the US driver side(aussie passenger)

However, I believe the US passenger side axle from the 5 speed will encounter a problem from pics I found...

6 speed shaft is the one fitted and the 5 speed shaft is sitting where the gearbox would be, as the 5 speed shaft goes into the box in line with the block, not further toward the driver side axle like the 6 speed.
So, if the 5 speed shaft splines went into the 6 speed gearbox, it would be about 1.5" too short at the block bracket.
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Jan 8, 2011 | 01:12 PM
  #14  
Can anyone tell me how many splines are there on the Shafts and ABS ring of a 6speed A33 Auto Trans
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Jan 11, 2011 | 12:09 PM
  #15  
6spd a33 auto trans doesn't exist...
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