Help w/ DE-K swap
Help w/ DE-K swap
Ok so i just bought a 30k mile DE-K (for a cheap $200) that I want to swap into my 99 5speed maxima. problem is ive never done this swap before and i understand theres some confusing parts to it (deleting the butterfly valves. tapping new threads. egr. rpm switch. and whatever else there is to it)
I dont really have time or the "proper DE-K swap knowledge" to do this so ...throw me some info lol
I dont really have time or the "proper DE-K swap knowledge" to do this so ...throw me some info lol
Last edited by NJ3ndri; Apr 22, 2010 at 08:52 AM.
Great price, congrats, I'm thinking of trying to find a young 3.5 to put up in the garage for a rainy day, ny car only has 85k so I have a while to worry about it.
I would guess that a dek swap is much simpler than a 3.5 as the technology is essentially the same. You may need to find a 00-01 ecu to run the vi but i'm sure those who have done the swap will chime in.
I would guess that a dek swap is much simpler than a 3.5 as the technology is essentially the same. You may need to find a 00-01 ecu to run the vi but i'm sure those who have done the swap will chime in.
Great price, congrats, I'm thinking of trying to find a young 3.5 to put up in the garage for a rainy day, ny car only has 85k so I have a while to worry about it.
I would guess that a dek swap is much simpler than a 3.5 as the technology is essentially the same. You may need to find a 00-01 ecu to run the vi but i'm sure those who have done the swap will chime in.
I would guess that a dek swap is much simpler than a 3.5 as the technology is essentially the same. You may need to find a 00-01 ecu to run the vi but i'm sure those who have done the swap will chime in.
And I heard of people using V-Tec controllers for the runners which sounds like a pretty good idea, easily adjustable and only 50 dollars on ebay
there's a couple of plugs that need to be extended, swap fuel injector plugs from the 2000' harness on to the 99' harness, and swap the big plug on the passenger side with the 99' plug also, thats for like your oil light etc. And uses your 99' ecu
And i was thinking maybe i should just do the Manifold swap instead of the whole thing ..idk
dude it's an easy swap, u just splice the dek injector plugs into the 4th gen harness, then u need a rpm switch or u can use an apexi vafc/neo to operate the 00vi. i just put a dek in my max yesterday, cuz my vq35 is havin a few probs
must likely i will be using a v-tec controller (i have no idea where to wire that up) and theres all these extra hoses out in the front of the runner.
another thing is the throttle body. theres some work that needs to be done with that?
I would suggest the whole engine swap....by the time you get all the custom parts to do just an 00vi swap....and go thorugh the trouble of compairing FSM between your car and an 00-01 max trying to figure out what the hell hose goes to what freakin connection....in the mean time getting frustrated and kicking your cat and all your hair falling out.... you could have just simply dropped in the entire freaking engine and called it a day.
The RPM switch (v-tech controller...what the hell, vtech is for 15 second hondas) is easy. you have a power. ground. signal wire run from the rpm (there are a couple places you can get this). and switched ground that goes back to the 00vi intake....
Only thing elese that is left to do is run a power wire to the other side of that plug in the intake (make sure there is a fuse) and set the rpm you want it switching at.
The RPM switch (v-tech controller...what the hell, vtech is for 15 second hondas) is easy. you have a power. ground. signal wire run from the rpm (there are a couple places you can get this). and switched ground that goes back to the 00vi intake....
Only thing elese that is left to do is run a power wire to the other side of that plug in the intake (make sure there is a fuse) and set the rpm you want it switching at.
thread jacking here....sorry. what was wrong with your vq35?
I would suggest the whole engine swap....by the time you get all the custom parts to do just an 00vi swap....and go thorugh the trouble of compairing FSM between your car and an 00-01 max trying to figure out what the hell hose goes to what freakin connection....in the mean time getting frustrated and kicking your cat and all your hair falling out.... you could have just simply dropped in the entire freaking engine and called it a day.
The RPM switch (v-tech controller...what the hell, vtech is for 15 second hondas) is easy. you have a power. ground. signal wire run from the rpm (there are a couple places you can get this). and switched ground that goes back to the 00vi intake....
Only thing elese that is left to do is run a power wire to the other side of that plug in the intake (make sure there is a fuse) and set the rpm you want it switching at.
The RPM switch (v-tech controller...what the hell, vtech is for 15 second hondas) is easy. you have a power. ground. signal wire run from the rpm (there are a couple places you can get this). and switched ground that goes back to the 00vi intake....
Only thing elese that is left to do is run a power wire to the other side of that plug in the intake (make sure there is a fuse) and set the rpm you want it switching at.
Question 1. what is the "switched ground that goes back to the 00vi intake...."?
Question 2. the plug in the intake: is that for the rpm switch (the wire where youd tap into?) and of course stick a fuse with it
If this is all then i think i can ***** slap this swap in the face
heres the v-tec controller i was looking at
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VTEC-...Q5fAccessories
and here's the motor
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VTEC-...Q5fAccessories
and here's the motor
What do i do about the egr valve? i noticed the 01 doesnt even show anything abt the egr on the all data engine diagram compared to the 99 diagram. theres also a couple more stuff that didnt really match up (besides the 00vi parts of course)
It still uses an egr gasket though, so just get a new one and swap it out since you'll have access to it and make a plate out of a peice of metal. Or find the stock plate from any 2001 dek. It's kinda triangular.
As far as the rear header goes, just get an aftermarket header without an egr tube.
Thats because 01 doesnt have egr. Either way, just block it off.
It still uses an egr gasket though, so just get a new one and swap it out since you'll have access to it and make a plate out of a peice of metal. Or find the stock plate from any 2001 dek. It's kinda triangular.
As far as the rear header goes, just get an aftermarket header without an egr tube.
It still uses an egr gasket though, so just get a new one and swap it out since you'll have access to it and make a plate out of a peice of metal. Or find the stock plate from any 2001 dek. It's kinda triangular.
As far as the rear header goes, just get an aftermarket header without an egr tube.
So basically (Screw the EGR) like ive seen most people have do here. lol
Im a little concerned about blocking i off tho, wouldnt it cause the MIL to light up?
me personaly i dont really care wether its used or not, i just need this to pass inspection since its the daily.
I noticed the 00 models use EGR and the 01 models dont....i have to figure out which motor i have.
me personaly i dont really care wether its used or not, i just need this to pass inspection since its the daily.
I noticed the 00 models use EGR and the 01 models dont....i have to figure out which motor i have.
Im a little concerned about blocking i off tho, wouldnt it cause the MIL to light up?
me personaly i dont really care wether its used or not, i just need this to pass inspection since its the daily.
I noticed the 00 models use EGR and the 01 models dont....i have to figure out which motor i have.
me personaly i dont really care wether its used or not, i just need this to pass inspection since its the daily.
I noticed the 00 models use EGR and the 01 models dont....i have to figure out which motor i have.
Look under the intake manifold near the throttlebody, If theres a triangular plate, you have an 01. Otherwise, you have the 00's EGR.
You will not get a check engine light if you leave the EGR Temp sensor plugged in. I just tied my EGR Temp sensor around a hose and left it plugged in.
Look under the intake manifold near the throttlebody, If theres a triangular plate, you have an 01. Otherwise, you have the 00's EGR.
Look under the intake manifold near the throttlebody, If theres a triangular plate, you have an 01. Otherwise, you have the 00's EGR.
thanks ill be sure to check that this weekend
one more thing. the only reason i want to drop the whole motor in is because ive heard it would be easier than swapping out the manifolds.
If someone disagrees PLEASE LET ME KNOW. lol
If someone disagrees PLEASE LET ME KNOW. lol
wiring is difficult for me also, just run a wire to your positive terminal and negative, figure out whats what on the manifold, hook up switch accordingly
well try reading another writeup, theres like 5, one website devoted to it and a huge pdf file hanging out on the 4th gen forum.
well try reading another writeup, theres like 5, one website devoted to it and a huge pdf file hanging out on the 4th gen forum.
wow thanks, this just answered alot lol
i noticed you used a 5th gen EGR. MY setup is from a 01 system wich doesnt use the EGR, Do you think I can use the 4th gen EGR and somehow (easily) get it done with this manifold that prob slightly diff from the 00 one which uses the EGR setup (i might have to tap some holes or something)
^^6can you use the plug from the 01 to plug up a 99 EGR?
dont buy that crap, i'm a honda guy trapped in a 4th gen maxima (lol) and the only good easy to use vtec controller is the apexi v1 or v2. i had the V1 and it was easy to use, i can imagine how much easier the v2 is...
heres the v-tec controller i was looking at
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VTEC-...Q5fAccessories
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VTEC-...Q5fAccessories
^^6can you use the plug from the 01 to plug up a 99 EGR?
dont buy that crap, i'm a honda guy trapped in a 4th gen maxima (lol) and the only good easy to use vtec controller is the apexi v1 or v2. i had the V1 and it was easy to use, i can imagine how much easier the v2 is...
dont buy that crap, i'm a honda guy trapped in a 4th gen maxima (lol) and the only good easy to use vtec controller is the apexi v1 or v2. i had the V1 and it was easy to use, i can imagine how much easier the v2 is...
I'm getting the feeling you don't want to delete your EGR...
Buy these, its the gasket and the EGR guide tube for the 00-01 intake manifold. It will replace the current guide tube thats connected to the USIM. Its not hard. Just take out the old guide tube and put this one in its place.
http://www.courtesyparts.com/14713-e...3-p-53914.html
http://www.courtesyparts.com/14722-e...3-p-53917.html
Ninja edit: You will ahve to unbolt the EGR blockoff plate before you can install the new guide tube,
Buy these, its the gasket and the EGR guide tube for the 00-01 intake manifold. It will replace the current guide tube thats connected to the USIM. Its not hard. Just take out the old guide tube and put this one in its place.
http://www.courtesyparts.com/14713-e...3-p-53914.html
http://www.courtesyparts.com/14722-e...3-p-53917.html
Ninja edit: You will ahve to unbolt the EGR blockoff plate before you can install the new guide tube,






