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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 10:04 PM
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Help w/ DE-K swap

Ok so i just bought a 30k mile DE-K (for a cheap $200) that I want to swap into my 99 5speed maxima. problem is ive never done this swap before and i understand theres some confusing parts to it (deleting the butterfly valves. tapping new threads. egr. rpm switch. and whatever else there is to it)
I dont really have time or the "proper DE-K swap knowledge" to do this so ...throw me some info lol

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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 10:08 PM
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Great price, congrats, I'm thinking of trying to find a young 3.5 to put up in the garage for a rainy day, ny car only has 85k so I have a while to worry about it.
I would guess that a dek swap is much simpler than a 3.5 as the technology is essentially the same. You may need to find a 00-01 ecu to run the vi but i'm sure those who have done the swap will chime in.
Old Apr 5, 2010 | 10:18 PM
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Great price, congrats, I'm thinking of trying to find a young 3.5 to put up in the garage for a rainy day, ny car only has 85k so I have a while to worry about it.
I would guess that a dek swap is much simpler than a 3.5 as the technology is essentially the same. You may need to find a 00-01 ecu to run the vi but i'm sure those who have done the swap will chime in.
yea price was yelling buy me. lol i think people have done it w the 99 harness and ecu. i got half the harness w the engin but it was cut off at the fire wall and fuse junction box and all that.
And I heard of people using V-Tec controllers for the runners which sounds like a pretty good idea, easily adjustable and only 50 dollars on ebay
Old Apr 5, 2010 | 10:23 PM
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there's a couple of plugs that need to be extended, swap fuel injector plugs from the 2000' harness on to the 99' harness, and swap the big plug on the passenger side with the 99' plug also, thats for like your oil light etc. And uses your 99' ecu
Old Apr 5, 2010 | 10:55 PM
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there's a couple of plugs that need to be extended, swap fuel injector plugs from the 2000' harness on to the 99' harness, and swap the big plug on the passenger side with the 99' plug also, thats for like your oil light etc. And uses your 99' ecu
I got the fuel plugs down but what exactly is this "big plug"
And i was thinking maybe i should just do the Manifold swap instead of the whole thing ..idk
Old Apr 5, 2010 | 10:55 PM
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ill post up pics of the motor as soon as i can so theres a visual of this mess lol
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dude it's an easy swap, u just splice the dek injector plugs into the 4th gen harness, then u need a rpm switch or u can use an apexi vafc/neo to operate the 00vi. i just put a dek in my max yesterday, cuz my vq35 is havin a few probs
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 07:27 AM
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dude it's an easy swap, u just splice the dek injector plugs into the 4th gen harness, then u need a rpm switch or u can use an apexi vafc/neo to operate the 00vi. i just put a dek in my max yesterday, cuz my vq35 is havin a few probs
Lol you honestly just gave me some motivation there.
must likely i will be using a v-tec controller (i have no idea where to wire that up) and theres all these extra hoses out in the front of the runner.
another thing is the throttle body. theres some work that needs to be done with that?
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I would suggest the whole engine swap....by the time you get all the custom parts to do just an 00vi swap....and go thorugh the trouble of compairing FSM between your car and an 00-01 max trying to figure out what the hell hose goes to what freakin connection....in the mean time getting frustrated and kicking your cat and all your hair falling out.... you could have just simply dropped in the entire freaking engine and called it a day.

The RPM switch (v-tech controller...what the hell, vtech is for 15 second hondas) is easy. you have a power. ground. signal wire run from the rpm (there are a couple places you can get this). and switched ground that goes back to the 00vi intake....

Only thing elese that is left to do is run a power wire to the other side of that plug in the intake (make sure there is a fuse) and set the rpm you want it switching at.
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Originally Posted by LONERANGERSR20
dude it's an easy swap, u just splice the dek injector plugs into the 4th gen harness, then u need a rpm switch or u can use an apexi vafc/neo to operate the 00vi. i just put a dek in my max yesterday, cuz my vq35 is havin a few probs
thread jacking here....sorry. what was wrong with your vq35?
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 08:16 AM
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I would suggest the whole engine swap....by the time you get all the custom parts to do just an 00vi swap....and go thorugh the trouble of compairing FSM between your car and an 00-01 max trying to figure out what the hell hose goes to what freakin connection....in the mean time getting frustrated and kicking your cat and all your hair falling out.... you could have just simply dropped in the entire freaking engine and called it a day.

The RPM switch (v-tech controller...what the hell, vtech is for 15 second hondas) is easy. you have a power. ground. signal wire run from the rpm (there are a couple places you can get this). and switched ground that goes back to the 00vi intake....

Only thing elese that is left to do is run a power wire to the other side of that plug in the intake (make sure there is a fuse) and set the rpm you want it switching at.
lol. yea idk someone suggested the v-tec controller to me and it seems pretty easy to set up and adjust the rpms.
Question 1. what is the "switched ground that goes back to the 00vi intake...."?
Question 2. the plug in the intake: is that for the rpm switch (the wire where youd tap into?) and of course stick a fuse with it

If this is all then i think i can ***** slap this swap in the face
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 08:25 AM
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heres the v-tec controller i was looking at
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VTEC-...Q5fAccessories


and here's the motor
Old Apr 9, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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What do i do about the egr valve? i noticed the 01 doesnt even show anything abt the egr on the all data engine diagram compared to the 99 diagram. theres also a couple more stuff that didnt really match up (besides the 00vi parts of course)
Old Apr 11, 2010 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by NJ3ndri
What do i do about the egr valve? i noticed the 01 doesnt even show anything abt the egr on the all data engine diagram compared to the 99 diagram. theres also a couple more stuff that didnt really match up (besides the 00vi parts of course)
Thats because 01 doesnt have egr. Either way, just block it off.

It still uses an egr gasket though, so just get a new one and swap it out since you'll have access to it and make a plate out of a peice of metal. Or find the stock plate from any 2001 dek. It's kinda triangular.

As far as the rear header goes, just get an aftermarket header without an egr tube.
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 07:20 AM
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Thats because 01 doesnt have egr. Either way, just block it off.

It still uses an egr gasket though, so just get a new one and swap it out since you'll have access to it and make a plate out of a peice of metal. Or find the stock plate from any 2001 dek. It's kinda triangular.

As far as the rear header goes, just get an aftermarket header without an egr tube.

So basically (Screw the EGR) like ive seen most people have do here. lol
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Originally Posted by NJ3ndri
So basically (Screw the EGR) like ive seen most people have do here. lol
Basically
Old Apr 13, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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Im a little concerned about blocking i off tho, wouldnt it cause the MIL to light up?
me personaly i dont really care wether its used or not, i just need this to pass inspection since its the daily.

I noticed the 00 models use EGR and the 01 models dont....i have to figure out which motor i have.
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Im a little concerned about blocking i off tho, wouldnt it cause the MIL to light up?
me personaly i dont really care wether its used or not, i just need this to pass inspection since its the daily.

I noticed the 00 models use EGR and the 01 models dont....i have to figure out which motor i have.
You will not get a check engine light if you leave the EGR Temp sensor plugged in. I just tied my EGR Temp sensor around a hose and left it plugged in.

Look under the intake manifold near the throttlebody, If theres a triangular plate, you have an 01. Otherwise, you have the 00's EGR.
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You will not get a check engine light if you leave the EGR Temp sensor plugged in. I just tied my EGR Temp sensor around a hose and left it plugged in.

Look under the intake manifold near the throttlebody, If theres a triangular plate, you have an 01. Otherwise, you have the 00's EGR.

thanks ill be sure to check that this weekend
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one more thing. the only reason i want to drop the whole motor in is because ive heard it would be easier than swapping out the manifolds.
If someone disagrees PLEASE LET ME KNOW. lol
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lol manifolds is way easier than a 500lb motor.
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drop a motor(disconnect and reconnect EVERYTHING) 00vi swap, disconnect 5 vacuum lines and remove about 20-30 bolts. tough question.
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ok so i guess ill start taking the manifold off the motor.
can someone tell me what i need to use and what i dont need from this diagram?


i noticed theres a nipple next to the control solenoid valves thats not listed in here. what do i do with that?
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Just plug it up.
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Just plug it up.
cool. that was the simplest and easiest thing so far lol.
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i still dont know where im going to wire up the rpm switch
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What do you mean? Have you read any of the 00vi write up? There's plenty and they all answers pretty much everything if you take the time to read chronologically.
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What do you mean? Have you read any of the 00vi write up? There's plenty and they all answers pretty much everything if you take the time to read chronologically.
i tried reading one and they never seem to ask the dumb questions i have lol
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wiring is difficult for me also, just run a wire to your positive terminal and negative, figure out whats what on the manifold, hook up switch accordingly

well try reading another writeup, theres like 5, one website devoted to it and a huge pdf file hanging out on the 4th gen forum.
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heres some of mine

http://forums.maxima.org/4th-generat...evap-pics.html

http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/5...1999-se-l.html
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wow thanks, this just answered alot lol
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i noticed you used a 5th gen EGR. MY setup is from a 01 system wich doesnt use the EGR, Do you think I can use the 4th gen EGR and somehow (easily) get it done with this manifold that prob slightly diff from the 00 one which uses the EGR setup (i might have to tap some holes or something)
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5th gen EGR is completely different than the 4th gen one. No, you can't; easily.
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^^6can you use the plug from the 01 to plug up a 99 EGR?

Originally Posted by NJ3ndri
heres the v-tec controller i was looking at
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VTEC-...Q5fAccessories
dont buy that crap, i'm a honda guy trapped in a 4th gen maxima (lol) and the only good easy to use vtec controller is the apexi v1 or v2. i had the V1 and it was easy to use, i can imagine how much easier the v2 is...
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^^6can you use the plug from the 01 to plug up a 99 EGR?



dont buy that crap, i'm a honda guy trapped in a 4th gen maxima (lol) and the only good easy to use vtec controller is the apexi v1 or v2. i had the V1 and it was easy to use, i can imagine how much easier the v2 is...
lmao no it looks real simple to use. you can adjust the rpms by the 100s and set it where you want. it even has a digital screen. (not my original idea lol i was told about this)
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Originally Posted by shadyonedeath
5th gen EGR is completely different than the 4th gen one. No, you can't; easily.
hold on a sec. Heres my plan.
I want to put the LIM and UIM from the 01 to my 99. while still using my egr.
Heres my question:. Shouldnt be too challenging right?
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I'm getting the feeling you don't want to delete your EGR...

Buy these, its the gasket and the EGR guide tube for the 00-01 intake manifold. It will replace the current guide tube thats connected to the USIM. Its not hard. Just take out the old guide tube and put this one in its place.
http://www.courtesyparts.com/14713-e...3-p-53914.html
http://www.courtesyparts.com/14722-e...3-p-53917.html

Ninja edit: You will ahve to unbolt the EGR blockoff plate before you can install the new guide tube,
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This is what mine looks like:

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This is what mine looks like:


what year is that manifold from?
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I don't know but the LIM is cali spec.



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