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Old 09-10-2010 | 09:09 PM
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Oh. My guess is about 265ish peak, depending on the dyno. Why is ITB's so hilarious? One of the few recorded FWD 3.5's to break 300 is equipped with em. Who else has done it? The Z guy's had to go inside, but they've got a little more drivetrain loss.
Cuz a buddy of mine put 278 with bolt ons and a ecu...u most not come on here a lot...265 can be done with basic bolt ons...itb's aren't needed it
Old 09-10-2010 | 09:41 PM
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There's a DEK that put down more than 265whp with I/H/E/cams/tune...
Old 09-10-2010 | 09:49 PM
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That is a gorgeous graph up there. 265+ has been done on a 3.0, a pre-programmed ECU isn't going to break records, having control and being able to account for variables during the tune will. Just saying... ITB's can push into the 300's, a wetdream . . . but a proven one.
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Old 09-10-2010 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MoncefA33
There's a DEK that put down more than 265whp with I/H/E/cams/tune...
Yeah, I recently finger-banged the heads on that motor. Had all the mods I reccomended cept it was cattman headers, no bolts, no ITB's... (atleast when it was fast...heheh)
Old 09-11-2010 | 12:14 AM
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vq35 heads flow great out of the factory. A NJ HEAD job and "gen 3" headers are not going to make a huge difference if you both are reving to 7200... 8k rpms is a different story
At the moment, I'm at 7500rpms. I plan on reving out to 8k or 8.5k. The mod list entails a deal more then just gen 3 headers. I only stated that because you said minimal differences. However he has OBXv2, and I have the gen 3, regardless of the difference it makes, it's still a difference in retrospect. The rest of my mod list contains a plethora more then this setup, not to disregard it by any means.

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Fully Blueprint and Balance
Polished and Balanced Crank Independently
Balance as Rotating Assembly to 10k RPMS

Minimal at best, but it was performed for balance and reserved for a reason. You are correct, the heads flow very well from factory, but with the added average 50cfm that can increase the flow/gains a great deal in itself.
Old 09-11-2010 | 01:09 AM
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Z33 cam timing is most optimal for Z33 cams (which on the DE-Z are the same as on the 5.5 Maxima) and SSIM (since the intake manifold is similar to the Z33IM)

However when you switch to those BC 264s that cam timing is no longer optimal. I've read on my350Z about how one member played with cam timing on a DE-Z and Tomei 264s and his AFR went from 12.x to 14.x at WOT. That's a huge increase in airflow. It shifts powerband more than it adds power, (which is why anyone using Stephen Max adapters on a 3.5 swap/cammed DEK pays attention to the timing), but the fact that it improves breathing shows it will help peak numbers.

What's the setup on your G35, by the way?
Nothing crazy, z-tube, 5/16 intake spacer, test pipes and uprev. I have since added a revup airbox and debating on either a exhaust or a custom twin turbo setup

don't want to go crazy with it like the maxima so leaning towards the exhaust

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Old 09-11-2010 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by bamboomerang
That is a gorgeous graph up there. 265+ has been done on a 3.0, a pre-programmed ECU isn't going to break records, having control and being able to account for variables during the tune will. Just saying... ITB's can push into the 300's, a wetdream . . . but a proven one.
OP: What do you think your car will put down?
Nothing less than 285whp...I just recently purchased a 06 motor with 50k on it. I know a healthy motor plays a key factor also
Old 09-11-2010 | 06:18 AM
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Honestly u will have to get an EU or something and maybe do something about the IM.
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Old 09-11-2010 | 09:46 AM
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Time to prove everybody wrong again
Old 09-11-2010 | 09:50 AM
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Honestly u will have to get an EU or something and maybe do something about the IM.
Ssim is stayin on. I'm not changing it. My boy had a 350z IM on his car and his car ran better with the ssim

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Old 09-11-2010 | 10:40 AM
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Ssim is stayin on. I'm not changing it. My boy had a 350z I'm on his car and his car ran better with the ssim
LMFAO!!
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Old 09-11-2010 | 02:31 PM
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looks like a pretty solid setup to me. sure there are other things you could do, but the $$$ starts going through the roof when you get much more involved than what you're already planning.

i wish I had 2 maximas to mod. half the time I think about what I could do with my car if I actually went beyond the super basic 3.5 NA setup I have right now, but then other other half of the time I think to myself, why bother, just turbo it and make 450whp. I need 2 cars to play with.
Old 09-11-2010 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
looks like a pretty solid setup to me. sure there are other things you could do, but the $$$ starts going through the roof when you get much more involved than what you're already planning.

i wish I had 2 maximas to mod. half the time I think about what I could do with my car if I actually went beyond the super basic 3.5 NA setup I have right now, but then other other half of the time I think to myself, why bother, just turbo it and make 450whp. I need 2 cars to play with.
i would boost it, but im a n/a guy and im ttrying to prove a point...

Everything should be done next
Old 09-11-2010 | 04:21 PM
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Ok, a serious post. I think with your setup you should have no problem making atleast 280. Its so hard to keep adding power once it get up in this range though. This motor should help big time since you have bought bad motors in the past. From what you have listed Im sure you will make the number, but if you had ,Cattman headers and a cut out....... OH BOY!!!
Old 09-11-2010 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
looks like a pretty solid setup to me. sure there are other things you could do, but the $$$ starts going through the roof when you get much more involved than what you're already planning.

i wish I had 2 maximas to mod. half the time I think about what I could do with my car if I actually went beyond the super basic 3.5 NA setup I have right now, but then other other half of the time I think to myself, why bother, just turbo it and make 450whp. I need 2 cars to play with.
I would go N/A with it. I believe the VQ35 could put out some very nice numbers with just cams. Headwork shouldn't be needed to run some nice passes. The stock VQ35 heads flow around 280cfm on the intake, which is impressive.
Old 09-13-2010 | 10:13 AM
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You're against the EU, but do you have some other way to advance the ignition timing?

There is a lot of power to be gained just from advancing the ignition timing, more than you'll gain from simple AFR corrections.

You could always get some bigger injectors then pull fuel with the SAFC to advance the timing, you just wont have as much control, but it does indeed work. There is no way to raise the fuel pressure on the returnless system of the 5.5 gen, besides running another fuel pump in series. (Or maybe the walbro 255 will bump it up, but not much)
Old 09-14-2010 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Unklejoe
You're against the EU, but do you have some other way to advance the ignition timing?

There is a lot of power to be gained just from advancing the ignition timing, more than you'll gain from simple AFR corrections.

You could always get some bigger injectors then pull fuel with the SAFC to advance the timing, you just wont have as much control, but it does indeed work. There is no way to raise the fuel pressure on the returnless system of the 5.5 gen, besides running another fuel pump in series. (Or maybe the walbro 255 will bump it up, but not much)
I'm against things that I haven't seen work for sure. I aint gonna take that risk and hack up my harness or have somebody else do it and mess my ish up. I had a utec and was waitiing for the PnP harness but that was a fail.

So imma just work with what I already have. For the moment
Old 09-14-2010 | 09:13 AM
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I'm against things that I haven't seen work for sure. I aint gonna take that risk and hack up my harness or have somebody else do it and mess my ish up. I had a utec and was waitiing for the PnP harness but that was a fail.

So imma just work with what I already have. For the moment
so will this setup be in action at the dyno meet
Old 09-14-2010 | 11:19 AM
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so will this setup be in action at the dyno meet
Yessir..the car should be done this weekend or next weekend
Old 09-15-2010 | 10:44 AM
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Yessir..the car should be done this weekend or next weekend
Manny please get this car on the road so ppl can see that the numbers can be reached... smh

I think you'll put down at least 289whp with your setup tuned
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Manny please get this car on the road so ppl can see that the numbers can be reached... smh

I think you'll put down at least 289whp with your setup tuned
Old 09-15-2010 | 04:54 PM
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timing control=kung fu
Old 09-24-2010 | 10:54 AM
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I had a utec and was waitiing for the PnP harness but that was a fail.
right there with ya...im in to see what you pickup with cam adjustments as well. contemplating if i wanna drop the coin on this...of course the 2k i had set aside for this is getting dumped into the stupid *** tranny now :/

utec will have to wait a couple weeks. if you crack three hundred i know whats next :?
Old 09-27-2010 | 04:26 PM
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Yessir..the car should be done this weekend or next weekend
So is it done
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So is it done
Must not have made what was wanted, some parting out going on in classifieds.
Old 10-01-2010 | 08:14 AM
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Must not have made what was wanted, some parting out going on in classifieds.
Nope..didn't even start...car is still sitting cuz the guy has not had the time to even start.
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And I'm about to try something else
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Just read over your thread and mod list. IMO you're going to want timing control. Rod bolts and rev limiter control would be really nice too.

The UTEC can be a PITA at times, but you can't say I haven't gotten good results with it. That 13.0 I pulled last year was on a 1.8 '60 with a 8.4@83 1/8th, and just pulled a 8.2@85 a few months ago (waiting for 1/4 times to go with it). That's with just simple boltons in my sig and self-done UTEC tuning.
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