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Old 01-17-2011, 10:19 PM
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I have a quick question..... Can the VQ30DEK or VQ35DEK can be bored out and if they can how much? Im not that into forced induction or spray... just trying to get more ponies out of her ... Thanks for the help n time
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Originally Posted by BIG D MAXX
I have a quick question..... Can the VQ30DEK or VQ35DEK can be bored out and if they can how much? Im not that into forced induction or spray... just trying to get more ponies out of her ... Thanks for the help n time
you can bore anything out.
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Originally Posted by BIG D MAXX
I have a quick question..... Can the VQ30DEK or VQ35DEK can be bored out and if they can how much? Im not that into forced induction or spray... just trying to get more ponies out of her ... Thanks for the help n time
Never heard of a VQ35DEK

but yea it can be bored out and stroked.

Why dont you check out this guys motor

http://forums.maxima.org/general-max...na-vq35de.html
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Thanks for the info.... Would yall how much it cna be bored out.... and where can i fine the parts for it like pistons n cams etc.?
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Any reason you're hell bent on 'boring it out'?
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If I ever blow my DEK engine, I will sleeve a VQ35 block, the advantage with sleeve is it's very strong so you can bore more without affecting the strenght so you can bore it to the extreme. I think it is possible to bore the block by 20-30 thousand of a inche at and still have a strong engine over that and your playing with fire.
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Any reason you're hell bent on 'boring it out'?
Weight reduction my son ! weight reduction
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Originally Posted by NiZMo1o1
Weight reduction my son ! weight reduction
Your going to bore an aluminum cylinder to fit a bigger aluminum piston. Where's the weight savings?
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Originally Posted by asand1
Your going to bore an aluminum cylinder to fit a bigger aluminum piston. Where's the weight savings?
Really ? The VQ is made out of Aluminum ??????????










Its called sarcasim asand1 , check my join date , I wasnt just born 1-21-2011...
( acutally I was born in 1-18....)
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At most without sleeving (VQ35), you could probably go to 97mm max. Not a big gain over 95.5mm, and I'd just stick with .20 over (96mm) if you're going to build it for anything more than NA and don't want to spend a wad on sleeving it. With sleeves, 100mm is doable. Even then, not much to be seen for power gains.
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Join date doesn't mean squat, and sarcasm doesn't communicate well in text form. Why not just swap cams, unless you already have.
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Originally Posted by asand1
Join date doesn't mean squat, and sarcasm doesn't communicate well in text form. Why not just swap cams, unless you already have.
your probally one of the guys that take everything in life so serious that you dont have time to wipe your @ss , jeeuz take a joke GUY!

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Originally Posted by NiZMo1o1
your probally one of the guys that take everything in life so serious that you dont have time to wipe your @ss , jeeuz take a joke GUY!
Not really. I've seen people with 3,000 posts ask how to change there oil, and your post about weight savings sounded like a legit post. My mistake, not being smart or arguing.

That said, what about a stock 3.5 bore and stroker crank. Welding additional metal to the outer circumfrence of the rod journals and re-machining for an extended stroke. They do it with V-dubs and the same shops should be able to do VQ. Thats if you cant buy a stroker crank aff the shelf, IDK. And then youd need shorter rods or custom pistons. I haven't looked into any of this.
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Originally Posted by asand1
Not really. I've seen people with 3,000 posts ask how to change there oil, and your post about weight savings sounded like a legit post. My mistake, not being smart or arguing.

That said, what about a stock 3.5 bore and stroker crank. Welding additional metal to the outer circumfrence of the rod journals and re-machining for an extended stroke. They do it with V-dubs and the same shops should be able to do VQ. Thats if you cant buy a stroker crank aff the shelf, IDK. And then youd need shorter rods or custom pistons. I haven't looked into any of this.
There are several options for off the shelf stroker parts for the VQ35DE.
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The Fact of the matter is , the OP hasnt replied back and what his goals is.
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Originally Posted by sparks03max
At most without sleeving (VQ35), you could probably go to 97mm max. Not a big gain over 95.5mm, and I'd just stick with .20 over (96mm) if you're going to build it for anything more than NA and don't want to spend a wad on sleeving it. With sleeves, 100mm is doable. Even then, not much to be seen for power gains.
Stroker kit have more power. but i not know about Higher Compression (All-Motor Only) can gain power?
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Stroker kit have more power. but i not know about Higher Compression (All-Motor Only) can gain power?
My post went over your head. Just give up....
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Originally Posted by sparks03max
My post went over your head. Just give up....
ok well, I wonder when i post, owner not get back on me?
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I vote ban.
Thank You, maybe this user not support to me?
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Aren't there like 50 different honda forums out there that you can go troll instead of this one?
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Like i said im no fan of Forced Induction or spray....Just trying to get as many ponies out of it as i can....
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Originally Posted by BIG D MAXX
Like i said im no fan of Forced Induction or spray....Just trying to get as many ponies out of it as i can....
how deep are your pockets ?

how much are you willing to spend to acheive your goals N/A ?

lmk when your ready and I got a set of Jeveny ITBs for your 3.5 !
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not real deep but its a 3.0
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Originally Posted by BIG D MAXX
not real deep but its a 3.0
If your pockets aren't real deep, then boring/stroking seems a little out of the question. Do you already have full boltons, tuning (real tuning, not an AFC) and cams? Considered swapping a 3.5 bottom end?
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nope gonna start fresh on it
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Originally Posted by BIG D MAXX
nope gonna start fresh on it
You need to set a goal , budget yourself , and alot of research then if your starting from *fresh* scratch
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Originally Posted by sparks03max
Aren't there like 50 different honda forums out there that you can go troll instead of this one?
im not troll.
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Originally Posted by BIG D MAXX
not real deep but its a 3.0
Shallow pockets, and boring out a motor do not go hand in hand. If you want to increase displacement without breaking the bank, get a 3.5 with bolt ons and a tune and call it a day.
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Shallow pockets, and boring out a motor do not go hand in hand. If you want to increase displacement without breaking the bank, get a 3.5 with bolt ons and a tune and call it a day.
Seriously... When you are starting with a 3.0, a 3.5 short block is literally a bolt in stroker kit on the cheap.
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Originally Posted by sparks03max
Seriously... When you are starting with a 3.0, a 3.5 short block is literally a bolt in stroker kit on the cheap.
Although its cheaper and easier to just buy a 3.5......just stock NA 3.5, Tune and leave it alone.
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alright thanks for the advice n tips....
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Originally Posted by BIG D MAXX
alright thanks for the advice n tips....
Good luck. You know... If you're really dedicated to making big NA power, keep your car at stock height and have some custom long tube headers made by a pro fabrication shop with a nice mandrel bender. Around 1.75" diameter, 30" long primaries would be optimal for one of the "normal" 272ish cam options....
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Originally Posted by sparks03max
Good luck. You know... If you're really dedicated to making big NA power, keep your car at stock height and have some custom long tube headers made by a pro fabrication shop with a nice mandrel bender. Around 1.75" diameter, 30" long primaries would be optimal for one of the "normal" 272ish cam options....

LOL, I don't think he is dedicated, but this thread was a good read
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