I was thinking about this while at a party with my girl yesterday.
What would be the peek power of a vq30, dek or not, if you do all bolt ons and internal work? I would like to know if its possible to reach 300hp with just internal work and no forced induction. Anyone care to give their input or info on this?

 

It's possible with the right amount of money. But its not easy.

Dandymax made 270whp on a 3.0 with an 00vi. This was on stock compression if I recall correctly. And he didn't even rev it out as high as he wanted to.

For what most of us use our car for, it would probably be more beneficial to reach that number with FI.

 

sounds not too good...lol.
so basically speaking, if i would want to reach that kind of power, i would have to give up the daily drivability of my maxima?

 

For someone who need his car daily, making an all N/A engine that can reach 300 HP, that need a lot of machine work, high compression custom piston, oversize bore of the block, cam, porting the heads, 5 angles valve job, headers, EU with full tune and what not. If you go that route get ready to spend between 5000$ - 10 000$ and on a DEK there is not that much part available you have to get custom made parts which are not cheap. The custom ARIAS piston for my DEK cost me a 1000$. I have spend over 10K on the engine alone and the car is not even on the street yet, in january 2012 that will be 5 years exactly that my car is in the garage it will see pavement spring 2012.

 

if you went wild with a vq30 you could squeeze 300whp out of it.

btw dude your sig is gigantic. you need to shrink that or I or one of the mods will have to do it for you. search for sig size rules.

 

Im new at this I have a 2000 maxima trying to get A decent amount of horse power for a daily driver

 

I'm new at this trying to figure this out I have a 2000 maxima v6 with just an intake looking to gain more power?

 

Start with the bolt-on. The way the economy is going, spending money on a 2000 car is not a great idea, seriously. You can put some bolt-on and see if the satisfy your craving power

 

yeah, but the question is how can i do it without the forced induction coming in...i want to get to the highest numbers without forced induction and after forced induction.

about the sig...it was premade...idk what size limits there is...can u point me in the right direction so i can resize it. thanks.

 

 

My first thought as well....some party huh??

 

Moncef, where are you?

 

Moncef just completed a build that is a bit more over the top than dan's. I expect at least 280whp.

On that note, you'll need the following essentials:

-Custom high compression pistons. DoubleA paid $1000 for his Arias. I got quoted $600 through importperformanceparts.net
-Cams. 3.5, obviously. Revups, Tomei, whatnot. Adapters as well.
-HR Valvesprings and shims, along with a valve job.
-Emanage Ultimate, or standalone setup.
-Headers. Cattman, if you want. Or OBX.

You can get into things like ported manifolds, larger throttle bodies, ARP head bolts, whatnot whatnot.

 

It's possible. Not gonna be easy though.

 

this might be a bit off the subject but im new and i have a 2000 max and i was wondering how difficult it would be to swap my de30 for a 35? and also what things to look for when i inspect my future donor

 

If your gonna up the compression take care of those rods too. Because you will be revving the ***** off it to get power.

Rev-up oil pump would also be required.

And while the 00vi is good i would look into other ventures for an IM. Even just going to an SSIM would yield some gains.

 

Hi.

 

You will need a big MAF.

 

Z32 should do the trick

 

If i do get a hold of the z32 MAF, just install it like it was our MAF, or would i need to do some mods to make it fit

*coughnewbcough*

 

Stickies.

http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/4...swap-info.html

http://forums.maxima.org/supercharge...make-work.html

 

I paid a little more for the piston, because they de-centered the wrist pin to 60/40 and used thicker wrist pin, and somethine with the ring but I dont quite recall.

 

Maybe, but reaching FI power levels with an NA engine commands respect.

I agree with MOHFpro90's points. If you do those things, you should be really close to 100 bhp/liter, if not more.

 

I know a lot of people on here daily their FI cars, but there is a lot more to potentially go wrong on a DD over an n/a car. Thus the argument that an n/a car would be more reliable arises. Also, being able to say you have so and so power, and that you're n/a.

Again, if you want to do it, it ultimately comes down to pistons and cams. You wont get anywhere without those.

 

and more importantly ...money

its cheaper to make 300hp with FI than N/A

 

That is very true. It's the whole reason I didn't buy the 11:1 pistons on importperformanceparts.net

 

haha theres like 4 different topics going on in this thread lol

op - Manny just drive your max off a cliff done deal and you'll save alot of heartache lol

 

 

Gimme Fuel, Gimme Fire, Gimme that what I desire (DYNO AND OWN THREAD ASAP!!!!!)

 

A. Why in the hell would you wanna do it with a 3.0? You really have that much time and money to spend on it?
B. I respect you for at least giving it the thought, because I used to travel down the same path (even more impossible than what you're doing because I did NOT want any variables in my setup). My original goal was 250whp w/ TQ to back it up, but I have yet to see any 3.0L's crack over 210ft/lbs, so I gave up and went to the VQ35 side of things because it's cheaper and no guesswork involved when it comes to making power.

 

+1

 

 

Percisely. I would like to also do this to show these stupid SoCal Honda fanboys that a built VQ can be one hell of a beast!

Also, if this is done, if having something pretty close to that much power on N/A, wouldnt it give it overall power when it comes to starting a F/I project on it? or would it have the same results?

All these things sound pretty pricey. I'm on my ways there...not really. I only have the OBX V2 Headers. Will get the 3.5 Cams soon. unless i can find them on the org for a decent price...

 

If youre asking can you convert the n/a project to forced induction, no. Building the engine for n/a power is not the same; to start with, pistons will have to be changed. Unless, of course, you plan on running race gas, and very low boost at 11.5:1 CR.

 

Man, I've showed up a few heavily modded N/A Hondas on bolt ons.

 

N/A is not cheap. You're going to want bigger cams. 3.5 cams probably won't gain much at all.
What do you consider heavily modded?

 

Cams, swapped, gutted interiors, tuned...

 

yeah, i get that...i've done that as well. but sour *** honda kids around here cant take a loss...lol.
idk if u get me, but i dont want to just be able to beat them, i would LOVE there to be a couple cars difference in a run between me and the opponent. like giving them no chance from even before the point where they line up. lol, sorry...got too carried away there...

yeah, thats all you see around here...well the ones the are actually well built. most of these guys just worry about how cool their car looks or about how jdm yellow their fogs can be.

 

I spank honduh's bone stock

two car lenghts by the time i chirp 2nd then their VTEC moans at me with madness

 

Interesting. Get some videos of the a$$ kickings!