vq35 manifold on a vq30
04-12-2013, 02:32 PM
#2
WHY???????? so you have no top end power and torque drops sharp after 5000 worse than the stock 3.0L IM?
00vi is the best manifold for a 3.0L
show me a dyno that says any other factory VQ manifold makes more power and torque under the curve all mods being equal.
00vi is the best manifold for a 3.0L
show me a dyno that says any other factory VQ manifold makes more power and torque under the curve all mods being equal.
04-12-2013, 02:36 PM
#3
I have a 3.5 bottom and ported/built 3.0 heads with the SSIM and 5.5 gen LIM. It is A LOT stronger than when I had the 00VI installed.
04-13-2013, 12:06 PM
#4
It has topend for days the 3'.5 mani good bends flows better than the 3.0 + that plenum is ment for topend the vlocit stacks in the plenum i liked it + it.s till i get the 3.5 in so i had the parts laying around..... took out the secondary butterfly and shaved down the injector humps on the lim.. And set up all the t/b stuff for the 70mm t/b that set up is ment for top end trust
04-13-2013, 12:11 PM
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04-13-2013, 03:28 PM
#6
I have a 3.5 IM on a 3.0, that plus the larger TB have really shinned when the car gets in its stride. But to be honest on a 3.0 i cant really see the benefit of doing all that port work over just using an 00vi for maybe 4-5whp at most, most of that is just coming from the IM just being larger.
04-13-2013, 04:18 PM
#7
This.
I have a 3.5 IM on a 3.0, that plus the larger TB have really shinned when the car gets in its stride. But to be honest on a 3.0 i cant really see the benefit of doing all that port work over just using an 00vi for maybe 4-5whp at most, most of that is just coming from the IM just being larger.
04-22-2013, 11:29 AM
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04-22-2013, 02:52 PM
#11
04-26-2013, 12:25 PM
#12
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Originally Posted by MoncefA33
ssim > 00vi.
I have a 3.5 bottom and ported/built 3.0 heads with the SSIM and 5.5 gen LIM. It is A LOT stronger than when I had the 00VI installed.
I have a 3.5 bottom and ported/built 3.0 heads with the SSIM and 5.5 gen LIM. It is A LOT stronger than when I had the 00VI installed.
-3.0 vs 3.5(bigger cams)
-stock 3.0L heads vs ported 3.0L heads (better flow)
-00vi (w60mm TB) vs SSIM (w70mm TB)
krismax put the 00vi vs SSIM on a 3.5L theory to rest long time ago.
SSIM is clearly better on a 3.5L (but not vice versa)
I<3 A32's -- what did you use to tune the car?? what's the AFR/RPM range??
04-26-2013, 02:45 PM
#13
yup that's exactly it.. 20 PEAK HP at most.. and no topend.
^^ so you're comparing apples to watermelons??
-3.0 vs 3.5(bigger cams)
-stock 3.0L heads vs ported 3.0L heads (better flow)
-00vi (w60mm TB) vs SSIM (w70mm TB)
krismax put the 00vi vs SSIM on a 3.5L theory to rest long time ago.
SSIM is clearly better on a 3.5L (but not vice versa)
I<3 A32's -- what did you use to tune the car?? what's the AFR/RPM range??
^^ so you're comparing apples to watermelons??
-3.0 vs 3.5(bigger cams)
-stock 3.0L heads vs ported 3.0L heads (better flow)
-00vi (w60mm TB) vs SSIM (w70mm TB)
krismax put the 00vi vs SSIM on a 3.5L theory to rest long time ago.
SSIM is clearly better on a 3.5L (but not vice versa)
I<3 A32's -- what did you use to tune the car?? what's the AFR/RPM range??
That dyno was done with a completely stock IM with no BOP or SSIM.
What happens when you make peak power earlier? Once you move the powerband to the right, you can make even more power. SSIM = top end.
04-26-2013, 04:57 PM
#14
yup that's exactly it.. 20 PEAK HP at most.. and no topend.
^^ so you're comparing apples to watermelons??
-3.0 vs 3.5(bigger cams)
-stock 3.0L heads vs ported 3.0L heads (better flow)
-00vi (w60mm TB) vs SSIM (w70mm TB)
krismax put the 00vi vs SSIM on a 3.5L theory to rest long time ago.
SSIM is clearly better on a 3.5L (but not vice versa)
I<3 A32's -- what did you use to tune the car?? what's the AFR/RPM range??
maxima<3
05-25-2013, 09:28 PM
#17
How much $$$$ is viper willing to back up his unfound claims? I'm up for putting down some $ on this. I wouldn't mind using my heads on a 3.0 if there was money to be made off of it....
Till then, viper can keep trying to play the honda game and spinning the p1ss out of the motor to make hum-drum, tq-less power.
Till then, viper can keep trying to play the honda game and spinning the p1ss out of the motor to make hum-drum, tq-less power.
Last edited by aackshun; 05-25-2013 at 09:33 PM.
07-05-2013, 10:10 PM
#21
Took it to the track 1/8 mile ran a 9.271.. On a sliping clutch ohh and i also upgraded to a emanage ultimate... **** moves wayyyy better.. If i do a good burn out and hook. On a day thats not over 100° i know ill run a 9. 04 a 8.9
maxima<3
maxima<3
07-22-2013, 08:55 AM
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07-22-2013, 12:36 PM
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11-09-2013, 07:31 AM
#32
No that car does not have an SSIM, and its not an easy or worth while mode over an 00vi.
Guys lemme educate you on the 00vi swap. On average a full bolt on SSIM dyno at about 210whp, a few a little over a few a bit under. The SSIM is on track to dyno around the same numbers maybe 215whp or around that number. 5whp is not worth the amount of port work that will have to go into getting an SSIM to work. The highest dyno'd VQ30 had a 00vi on it and revved to 8K iirc and made 270whp.
Exploring the 00vi on a bolt on car? Really not worth the time and the effort this is coming from somebody who has one. Just put an 00vi on it and be done with the whole issue.
Guys lemme educate you on the 00vi swap. On average a full bolt on SSIM dyno at about 210whp, a few a little over a few a bit under. The SSIM is on track to dyno around the same numbers maybe 215whp or around that number. 5whp is not worth the amount of port work that will have to go into getting an SSIM to work. The highest dyno'd VQ30 had a 00vi on it and revved to 8K iirc and made 270whp.
Exploring the 00vi on a bolt on car? Really not worth the time and the effort this is coming from somebody who has one. Just put an 00vi on it and be done with the whole issue.
11-09-2013, 09:31 AM
#33
No that car does not have an SSIM, and its not an easy or worth while mode over an 00vi.
Guys lemme educate you on the 00vi swap. On average a full bolt on SSIM dyno at about 210whp, a few a little over a few a bit under. The SSIM is on track to dyno around the same numbers maybe 215whp or around that number. 5whp is not worth the amount of port work that will have to go into getting an SSIM to work. The highest dyno'd VQ30 had a 00vi on it and revved to 8K iirc and made 270whp.
Exploring the 00vi on a bolt on car? Really not worth the time and the effort this is coming from somebody who has one. Just put an 00vi on it and be done with the whole issue.
Guys lemme educate you on the 00vi swap. On average a full bolt on SSIM dyno at about 210whp, a few a little over a few a bit under. The SSIM is on track to dyno around the same numbers maybe 215whp or around that number. 5whp is not worth the amount of port work that will have to go into getting an SSIM to work. The highest dyno'd VQ30 had a 00vi on it and revved to 8K iirc and made 270whp.
Exploring the 00vi on a bolt on car? Really not worth the time and the effort this is coming from somebody who has one. Just put an 00vi on it and be done with the whole issue.
11-09-2013, 09:36 AM
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11-09-2013, 10:04 PM
#38