i was wondering what brands are the best that isnt like main stream. like stuff that is really good that the public really doesnt know about only audio enthusiasts.
thanks

 

Depends what you are talking about.

 

like subs amp and speakers

 

go here

www.caraudioforum.com

They're are a lot of people that know what they're talking about, just make sure those are the ones you're listening to and not the knuckle heads that think they got the best stuff just cause thats what THEY got.

But here's what I picked up from sometime there. THESE MY ARE OPINIONS, if you don't like it or feel i missed something, make your OWN F*****G list.

Subs
JL Audio
Elemental Designs
Adire Audio
Digital Designs (more SPL based, not really SQ subs)
MA Audio (i think, might not be)

Amps
JBL (i love my 1200.1)
PPI
JL (people love the 300/2)
MTX (they're bigger amps are great)
RF (they're older stuff, not their new overated amps)


and a lot more I can't think of right now. but you can go there and run a quick search.

 

Why, you trying to pretend you are an audio enthusiast who is in the "know"?

When I saw "money is no object" I thought this was a K Pazzo 6 post.

 

i am a car audio enthusiast, but my main focus has been stuff I can afford , thats why i say go to www.caraudioforum.com, those guys there have more money and knowledge than I'll ever have.

 

And this also depends if you are talking about SQ kind of system of striktly power system ? SQ system will always cost you way more.

 

If money is truly no object it is likely you will spend more on plane tickets to hear the available stuff than you will on the best sounding stuff. Fly to a showroom. If you like what you hear fly to the factory and take a tour. That is money no object. But everything sounds different to everyone. It's up to your ears, not ours.

 

someone...forgot to put XTANT on that list of amplifiers...

 

Zapco
DLS
Brax
Dynaudio
Quart
Focal
Audison
and others

 

what about eclipses for SQ subs?

 

what about them?

 

arnt they pretty good SQ subs?

 

it all depends on what you are looking for, if you are looking for SQ, SQL, SPL, how much area are you looking to use, how much power, etc etc.
some good brands though that arent mainstream are Digital Designs, Resonent Engineering, ED, Adire Audio....the list goes on, give us more specs on what you are looking for

 

i just wanted to know some brands that are rare and that not that many people use. its not like i have all teh money in the world i was just saying dont count money as a factor. thats all. and i am not an audio enthusiast i just wanted to know some other brands
thanks for the info.

 

yeah the brands i listed above are some of the better ones that are not as common as brands like Rockford Fosgate and MTX and all those.

 

Diamond Audio is goood =]

 

Add to the list :
Image Dynamics for subs
Phoenix Gold for amps

 

for amps, i like mcintosh as well as their head unit, very very clean sound for speakers, but for subs you might want to try phoenix gold.
for speakers:
rainbow reference, focal utopia, dynaudio
for subs:
jl w7 line up, image dynamic, aluma pro alchemy series or their m16, focal utopia series

for sound processors, i like the audio control eqt concert series 30band mono eq.

for lines, i'm a fan of phoenix gold zero point series and monster cable. but for power and speaker wire i like phoenix gold zeropoint series.

for wire connectors i also like phoneix gold 24k plated connectors.

 

yes the eclipses are sq subs,i think they are one of the best subs out there for sq/spl.they have really good sq and spl that knock ur head off. actually most subs can used for sq and/or spl its all in the type of box u use for that partucular sub whichever u choose. in car audio its 50% equipment and 50% quality of the install.installation is the key.

 

Crystal MobileSound, their sub is really good SQ and SPL. Alpine and Crossfire have good amps.

 

I currently have Dynaudio Speaker, and they are run on a pair of Butler Audio Tube Driver amps. I also like McIntosh amps. As far as subs go, I actually have found one of the best ones I've ever auditioned. www.partsexpress.com has a line called the Titanic. I have the 10" model, that has one of the best balances between SQ and SPL I've ever seen.I've heard dual 10" boxes with two to three hundred watts of power not have the output this one does with only 150 watts in a .50 sealed box.

 

heres your list of MY choices...

Amps:
zapco
orion
jL
PG
RF only the bd1000.1, bd1500.1, and 851x, 801x

subs:
kicker
dr. crankenstein
JL
eclipse

crossover:
zapco

headdeck and eq
pioneer
alpine

wiring:
pg with circuit breaker or orion

Farad:
Road Rage
Lightning

Battery:
yellow optima, possibly red, nothing else
run 2 bat and a farad exceeding 2000 watts- thats clean power or rms, not what the peak power handling states on the box
alternator:
upgrade to a 250 or more

 

250 amp alt? Let's see now, doesn't exist for a Maxima. Maybe a Ford or Chevy truck. But won't fit under the hood and VQ 30 or 35 couldn't push it at idle. Would push it too fast at highway speeds and burn it up. Why two batteries? I guess you need an excuse for the 250 amp alt. Why the circuit breaker? Oh yeah, excuse for the 250 amp alt. Most of the stuff mentioned in wiring and power supply do more harm than good.

I wish everyone would quit nameing the brands that spend the most on advertising and go out and listen to some of this crap they are wasting money on.

Good reliable power that's been proven - MTX, ARC, PG Titanium - but has serious efficiency issues, RF, this list could honestly take tens of pages.

Wiring, go to any welding shop. Fusing, get a good waterproof blade / wafer fuse holder or a soundgate ICB.

Speakers & subs, whatever sounds good to you. Forget about what anyone says.

Crossover, way to many variables to give a recommendation.

 

Orion is no where near Zapco in any way, I can't belive you would put that in there. This is alot of crap you listed.

 

I know zapco s the best amp, but its expensive. Ive been in car audio for 5 years already doin installs, and if your telln me that orion isn't a good amp, then ur seriously on somethin. It migbt not b a zapco, but its still one of the best.To the other guy, you can fit a 250 alt in the car easily with a custom job an if you know what ur doin. Tell me, how oyu plan on powering some 2000 watt subs, with 1 optima an 1 farad, please, youll fry the alternator from drawing to much current. My boy got three w7's in an suv powered by 6 bd1000's, now explain to me how your going to power this with one battery and 1 farad. Oh, an u say y the circuit breaker, hook up a system powering over 2500 watts clean power(RMS)and tell me afterwords in a few weeks how many fuses u blew. Alright then

 

don't mean to shoot down your opinion, but i'm having a 220A installed in a few days. i would have done it already, but my tranny decided to **** on me. so...it does fit. will it bolt on, no. but is it mounted securely and will it fit comfortably...yes. does it exist for any car...NOPE. maybe 10% of all cars. most alternators that high are only custom builds. they're ready to be built, but only built on request.

220 is peak, idling would be at around 180. and if you compare to say, my car (2k2) which idles at 24A and peaks at 105A@5krpm, you'd want to consider an upgrade in alt. juice. i tested my amps the other day and peaked at 130A. this was after i upgraded all the wiring. this is why i considered the upgrade.

although i will say if you NEED to install an alternator, then you should at least have covered everything else prior. alternator upgrade should be on the top of your list. upgrading all your wiring to at least 4awg. battery ground and alt. ground, along with alt to battery power wire. why run a 0awg if you're only generating through an 8awg power wire.

as mentioned, upgrading the battery is a must and a cap is always good to stabilize voltage. if after all that, and i mean you cover your whole car with wiring so you're not cheaping out, and you still feel you need a push, then fine upgrade the alternator.

 

Keep talking. When you get it up to 250 amps in a max without stalling at idle without serious dough you can quit talking. But you'll pass out from being blue long before you finnish talking. I've done more work on the maxima's electrical system than you guys or girls, obviously.

Circuit breaker kid. Go out to your car and measure the voltage before and after the breaker before you say another word.

 

may i ask who you have this aimed towards?....me or whoahh

 

Orion is crap, it's like my tow nail, it will break sooner or later. It's really sad.

 

Both of you. Half and half, like the creamer.

 

wow, your one cocky ******* aren't you. i simply stated my opinion, and you turn it into a who's better war. it's ****in called constructive criticism.

you know so much, you should be a mod......o wait.....you're not. lick my nuts, and all up in that asscrack. i'm done with you.

 

I was the one giving constructive critisism. You are the one with insults. Constructive critisism is healthy and may save you time and money. That is if you care to take it. Sorry if you think I am cocky. And no, I won't deny it.

 

Kraco is the best.

 

People really don't like it when someone with a HO alt knocks on them and their vast overuse. Or knocks the over zealous push by magazines to have them in every car. This subject needs much consideration before a vehicle operator should make a purchase.