Hello guys.

I bought 2 12" Alpine Type R Subs off ebay brand new., The Seller shipped them out and when I got the Fed Ex confermation of them being shipped, it said weight 12 pounds. Now that would be the weight of maybe 1 of the subs, cause i know darn well both together are more then that. I emailed the guy and asked if maybe he mistaked by only shipping one. He said he shipped both, and he said that is the initial weight, not the actual weight. What does this mean?

Thanks

Nick

 

Don't worry about it. They don't always weigh the items being shipped, despite the fact they are supposed to weigh them. If they picked the subs up from the sellers home they likely used the weight that the seller advised. They may weigh them when they get to a sorting facility and then request more money from the shipper. I don't really know what they do on that end of things. But I have definitely seen incorrect weights on shipping labels in the past.

 

Thanks man. He just emailed me back and said the package was 44lbs. im like WTF, where do you get 12 to 44? hahah

later bro

 

I agree...for reference, the two 10" Type Rs that I just got weighed 35 lbs total.

When you set up an account with UPS to print out UPS labels yourself (and pay via a credit card), you enter the weight for each shipment. If you have a corporate account, I imagine you don't care about filling in an accurate weight as UPS will bill the difference as jmax mentioned.

 

ahhh i see. They should fix that because there is ppl like me that are wondering WTF, u kno lol

anyhow, how do you like them Type R's? I know there good subs.

 

how much did u pay for'em?

 

My 10s are being delivered today, so I haven't had a chance to test them out yet.

Got both of them for $209 which included shipping from an authorized Alpine dealer. (www.bestpriceaudiovideo.com)

 

JetBlackMax-

Got both of the 10" Type Rs installed today (hooked up to a 600x1 mono soundstream amp). Damn that box was heavy.

They sound great.

Pass thru being open or closed has NO effect on the sound in the cabin (for what its worth). For reference, they're up against the back of the rear seat firing backwards. And so far, I don't have any rattles. We'll see if anything gets loosened up over the next few weeks....

The box size was 0.83 cubic feet per sub (recommended 0.55 - 0.8)

Be prepared for your 12"s to sound awesome

 

Actually the only online dealer of Alpine is Crutchfield.

--Don

 

www.bestpriceaudiovideo.com (owned by Nirav Corporation) says they're an authorized Alpine dealer. I checked the Alpine site, and there is no mention of any online dealers that are authorized. I know you're probably familiar with Alpine and their policies, but it seems weird for them not to be authorized. The ONLY car audio stuff they carry is Alpine, and they get their equipment straight from the Alpine shipping warehouse (as opposed to some middle man).

I believe you, it just seems strange...

 

Hey bro, that is awesome to hear! I knew they would sound good. I had the Alpine 12's (Same ones I just bought) before and I had them wired to a Coustic 400 watt amp. Pushed 200 watts to each sub and them Subs were HITTIN! It was good enough for me. So I decided to get them again.

Now I matched them with the Past 12" JL W6 Subs I had before. I had 2 of them to a similuar amp that I had the Alpines hooked to. The JL W6's were good and I loved them subs to death, but in my opinion, the Alpine Type R's came out on top. They had more bass to me, and they have a higher Peak Rating and about the same RMS as the JLS did. Now for me being crazy about JL's before, This Alpines hit harder in my opinion.

I bought both of the alpines from this ebay seller that also deals with alpine, for 210$ for both. With shipping it came out to like $250. Which in my Opinion is a Faboulous Deal. So I had to have them. Im gonna go with a Duel 12" Box with Rectangular Ports on the Outside. Ported Boxes in my opinion are more Bassier then Inclosed Boxes that are more tight with bass. I like that Boomy Bass. And Im gonna get that box on ebay also for 50$ with Shipping comes to 70$. I emailed the guy and asked him for more pics and he showed me a pic of the inside and the box looked great on the inside, very unique design. So he sells lots of them and makes them, so Ill get one of them from him eventually. Then Ill be on the hunt for an amp. By the Summer, My neighbors are gonna hate me, and thats what I love about life the most

See ya lata guys!

Nick

 

I am actually authorized to sell alot of products, just not online. No doubt that they are authorized just not as an internet seller. Also their return policy of a defect item actually made me a little weary though..

--Don

 

They definitely are not authorized. Unless Alpine suddelny changed their policies. It is likely refurbished goods, the only way they can sell that cheap and make a profit.

 

"It is likely refurbished goods" is ludicrous. Their prices are no different than ikesound, or any of a handful of other online retailers. And besides, they're selling some of the new CDA-982* HUs. I can't imagine there's enough of those that have been purchased, broken, and refurbished already, as they were only released Jan 8, 2004. They appear not to be authorized for online selling as Don has clarified, but they're not selling crap.

As for their return policy...I've seen some pretty strange polices at various sites. ikesound.com is a popular online audio retailer (as is thezeb.com), and those sites actually require proof that your stuff was installed by a professional before they allow you to return defective equipment for warranty repair.

I'm not sure why I'm so vigilant about defending these guys. I got my stuff, it was new, and it sounds great...

 

I guess you could say it's like buying a lotto ticket. I prefer to win everytime, not just by the luck of the draw. You're obviously a risk taker. Those of us with mortgages and families learn to be more cautious in life's little decisions. I think their warranty is just that, theirs only. You can't return the item to Alpine or any other authorized dealer. It must go through the place that you bought it. That is how unathorized dealers have worked the system for as long as I can remember. Basically means that if they go out of business or decide to change the policy you are screwed.

 

people its car audio... your not buying a car here. this one little decision will not make/break your life. and if it does.. you should not be purchasing car audio. certain online sites are shady.... most car audio retail stores imo are shady. just do your research and you will be fine. i bought all my stuff online and it was brand new and its works perfectly. now if it blows... it is my fault. if you buy it from sound advice and it blows... its still your fault (unless you wanna pay an upgraded speaker as they say). just dont be stupid and there should not be a problem.

 

For those who spend $50 on car stereo equipment every 5-10 years you could be right. But for those of us who live, breath, sleep, eat, and dream with music in our ears it's a bit more complex. Sorry you missed the boat. We are haveing a great time.

 

i think you missed my point but i dont care. ive never seen so much sorority *****ing around here in my life. its about as bad as mtv's sorority life...yet not as funny, but entertaining nonetheless.

 

No, you didn't have a valid point. Nobody missed that. If you don't understand the business world, the electronics industry, music, the differnce between a sq system and an average system and how this is all related there is no reason to try and understand the importance of getting what you pay for.

 

some people just need to get a grip and pull the sticks out of their a$$holes

 

[QUOTE=Neptune97]
My family is the very reason that I DO look for deals, and spend considerable time shopping around before I buy anything. If I was a single guy living with my buddies, I could probably afford to take the easy route and buy from Crutchfield or BB/CC and get a guaranteed warranty regardless. I still wouldn't though...with enough research I found a place that's been in business for 22 years and that sold me $637 worth of car audio equipment for $397. And guess what? Even if I broke the head unit and tried to return it for repair and they didn't honor the warrantee (for whatever reason), I could buy another from them and still be on top.

 

thank you! a man who stays on topic and makes sense.

 

$397 X 2 = $794

$794 was greater than $637 when I was in elementary school. Has that changed?

Those of us who have been buying audio gear for more than a decade know that you can get good deals from authorized dealers. We also know that for most items the best way to buy is used. When I buy audio equipment I normally keep it 3 years or longer. I have had some things for more than 10 years. If I think there is a chance that it won't be working as well in 5 years as when new, I won't buy it.

FIY I am a homeowner. I earn approximately 80% of the money my family takes in each year. And, I work a job that requires no more than a high school diploma or equivalent. Point being that regarless of your income you can afford to pay the authorized dealer price.

I guess it would be pointless to mention that unauthorized dealers directly cause a higher retail price for products and decrease the quality and upgrade frequency of future new products.

The fact your unauthorized speakers have the letters CDT on them doesn't mean much. Ever buy a rolex from a guy on a street corner for $10? Unless you are an engineer or connoisseaur it's likely you can't tell which is the real deal.

 

$397 + $199 = $596 < $637. Who said all I bought was a HU?

When it suits THEM, yes.

Unauthorized dealers came about because some people don't want to pay high retail prices. Which came first, the chicken or the egg?


I am an engineer, but I probably couldn't tell the difference between a rolex and a fake. I can, however, tell when something sounds good.

I'm not sure what happened to this bastardized thread... I recommended an online site for someone to buy their Type Rs, and you made a claim that the ones I bought must be refurbished, which is pure malarky.

How about this: you continue buying at your authorized dealer, I'll continue buying from my online dealer, and the poster can make their decision based on the fountain of good crap that we've provided them.

 

It just seems as you don't want the truth to be known. Or you think that what you beleive is the only possible explanation for the way things are. I am disapointed to see engineers have dropped their ethical and moral standards. Or maybe the school you attended forgot their customary 2 minute lecture on ethics.

 

I can't believe you whipped out ethics while discussing car audio. That is truly criminal...

 

this just means that you should not buy anything that's more than $50 on ebay. i rather pay few $$ more and buy it from on-line store

 

I think the whips should be kept on the morality side of the issue.

 

Hey guys? Where is the Love at eh? Listen, I got the Subs OFF EBAY FROM A SELLER THAT SELLS ALPINE SUBS. They Came in today, Brand new in brand new boxes still with Glad Wrap On them. Everything was all there, and they looked Beutiful and Work Great! Now Dont say that buying off ebay is very risky, just make sure you know who your dealing with.

Now as for my max. I can honestly say that 97% of the Mods on my car are ALL BOUGHT ONLINE. Weather its Custommaxima, Ebay or some other sites. I can tell you this. The Deals are ALL ONLINE. If I went to a store locally next to where Im at and tried to buy the things I have now, I can see I wouldve paid double for the stuff. Shop smart, Shop Wise and SHOP EBAY!

The Subs I got Retail for 200$ which is what I wouldve paid if I bought them around here. I just got BOTH of them subs for $220. BRAND NEW, NOT REFURBISHED. Now THAT is what I call a DEAL!

Nick

 

That's what I have been saying. If you are going to purchase without a warranty, don't get ripped off. Get it used. There are probably a few dozen or more car audio forums with for sale sections. Great deals can be had. I bought from others online and I have sold to others online. Just don't pay more than 20-40 percent of the new price unless it is a very rare item.

 

In response to what you are referring to as a "deal". When a person online can sell cheaper than that of what actual legit dealer cost is, dont ya think theres a catch somewhere? I mean look at the facts...If product A dealer cost is $200, and an online site sells it for $165, then it is not humanly possible. Also consider last time I checked people to not do sales to not make a profit, so again when the online seller is Selling for $165 figure hes making money as well. So while the legit dealers are paying $200 for the product, how can they possibly match that of the guy online? Pay out of their own pocket and take a loss to make you happy? No. Why are actual stores and legit dealers more money? Aside from the facts of warranties,personal assistance,knowing that it is class A products,etc...but more importantly they are following the guidelines strictly enforced from the manufacturers.

I must also ask how do YOU know they arent refurbs? You are a member of this business and can tell? Shrink wrap/glad wrap means its new? Most companies that do refurbs still reseal FYI.

Neptune...your statement was "Unauthorized dealers came about because some people don't want to pay high retail prices. Which came first, the chicken or the egg?"

Not totally true. Unathorized dealers came about by finding other ways to get things, whether it is a fake product,stolen,grey market,etc, doesnt really matter. I can sew Nike emblems on KEDs sneakers and sell the to for a fraction of the price, does that make them right? Legit? But would YOU buy them? Most likely yes you would because you saw a "good deal".

I am not trying to flame anyone here, just stating simple facts that with some research into the 12volt industry anyone can learn, and you will be surprised what you find.

--Don

BTW..DEALER COST on Alpine Type R subs is $121 each flat out with no shipping. Anyone that would like to disagree can view my Alpine dealer price sheet direct from Alpine. So did ya get a good price? Sure, but a good deal? Think about it...

 

This is the greatest thread in history. I can't believe how many times we've beaten this horse and its still dead. At least we've determined that unauthorized dealers and ebay merchants are shady and that they sell refurbished or stolen goods. Stupid me, I always thought they sold products for less because they had less overhead, no leasing fees, didn't have to train their employees, purchased overstock from authorized dealers, and decided that they didn't need the kick back fees that authorized dealers receive for selling at an elevated price enforced by the manufacturer. Golly gosh, thanks for clearing things up...I can now safely unsubscribe from this thread. And then shoot myself.

 

most likely there is no catch just because authorized dealer charges his percent and makes as much money as possible and on e-bay it's done differently. there are big warehouses that drop ship direct from them cutting down the authorized dealers and stuff..... and the guy that sells on e-bay makes his 30 bucks and happy with it because he doesn't even ship it he drop ships it... he just takes ur money and orders direct from company/warehouse and they ship it to u with his logo... so there is no catch thats buying from some1 like sell2all or another user like them..... i bought from them a lot and they make their money from shipping cost they sell a lot of product to a lot of people really cheap but charge more money for shipping and thats how i think they make all of their profit.... so buying on e-bay from a person that sells 30 or 100 Quantity of the same product is safe. because he gets it directly from the warehouse.... u can find plenty of those warehouses and that is the same lists that people sell on e-bay to get cheap audio and performance stuff they sell links to warehouses....

 

Of course as usually point missed again...

Neptune..of course no need for your sarcasm. I was making a point, if acting childish makes you feel better than by all means please feel free to do so. Does not having an overhead and no employees,etc,etc make it easier? Of course No brainer there, but again DEALER COST is DEALER COST PERIOD There is no but theres no overhead, but this,but that. It is what it is.

Sadice..Drop shipping LMFAO you really must be kidding right? Try just calling up a place like Alpine,PG,DA,Kicker,etc...ask them...Can I be abuyer from you guys? And they will say sure heres the number to the rep in your region. Call him and set something up. You then do your required buy-in and sign and initial several papers stating that you WILL NOT sell online, and many other disclaimers. You will then IF APPROVED and territory restrictions arent an issue be signed up with that particular dealer. In which case will ship ONLY TO YOU, you will also pay for the product either COD M/O company check credit card or be on terms (ie:net 30,60,etc) Everything that is sent to YOUR location is than tracked by serial numbers, this way that manufacturer knows who has what. So if a guy in CA has a product that was sold to a store in NY theres a problem.

And warehouses...sure there are some, but unless directed to them by the manufacturer (in which case all above dealings still apply) then they are getting the product two-stepped or in other terms sideways. I can give ya some names of warehouse in NJ right now, if ya have a business license and a tax id number theyll sell to ya, and they will also tell you that your product will NOT be backed by the manufacturer.

--Don