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Old May 9, 2004 | 04:56 AM
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VERY NICE car audio system for sale. System is currently in a 1990 Nissan Maxima. Pioneer Head unit w/ single CD player. 6 disc Pioneer changer, OZ audio 5.25 components in front door panels and rear deck lid. Crossover network included. Three Alumapro Alchemy 10" in a custom bandpass enclosure. Box is custom made for a 3rd generation maxima. Six 3" PVC tubes direct the bass directly into the listening area of the vehicle via the rear deck lid. Rear deck lid could be sold with this system seeing it has so much done to it. There is a black metal grill for trim to cover the PVC tubes. TOP OF THE LINE WIRING ALL INCLUDED. Three Stinger RCA for front, rear, and Subwoofer. Double 2 gauge runs from a Spiral Core battery included, 150 amp breaker, all distribution blocks, 1 farad capacitor. Orion 1100 XTR on subs, Orion 500 xtr on interior. This system was built for Sound Quality competition and has won all events it entered. Clifford Alarm extra $$. If someone bought this for a 3rd generation max i could also include all cosmetic panels for the trunk as well. (Black carpeted custom trim panels) If interested, please email me at shayjunk@charter.net (Junk meaning junk mail!!) $2000.00 takes it all but alarm. $350 extra for alarm with keyless everything.
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wrong forum and wayy over priced.
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Originally Posted by slickrick
wrong forum and wayy over priced.
You must have no life and nothing to do to reply with that
Old May 9, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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5.25's in front and back and Alchemies in a bandass enclosure and you've won SQ comps???

You said it was built for SQ comps? To IASCA or USAC specs? What Iasca or USAC SQ events have you won? Got scorecards you could photocopy? Were the 5.25's in kicks? If so, are they included?

Did the speakers in the back draw the soundstage back? Did the 5.25's provide enough midbass to keep up with 3 Alchemies in a bandpass enclosure? No EQ? Any you won SQ comps with this? It goes against everythign I know of SQ design. Maybe there's something I could learn from this. Do you have any pics of the final install or from your install log book? Scoresheets and the IASCA/SLAP/USAC events you've won with would be great. Thanks
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hmmm, this should be intresting. lets see if the seller is just BS'ing to sell his eq, or if he knows what he talking about....


I already know the answer... but we'll see.



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5.25's in front and back and Alchemies in a bandass enclosure and you've won SQ comps???

You said it was built for SQ comps? To IASCA or USAC specs? What Iasca or USAC SQ events have you won? Got scorecards you could photocopy? Were the 5.25's in kicks? If so, are they included?

Did the speakers in the back draw the soundstage back? Did the 5.25's provide enough midbass to keep up with 3 Alchemies in a bandpass enclosure? No EQ? Any you won SQ comps with this? It goes against everythign I know of SQ design. Maybe there's something I could learn from this. Do you have any pics of the final install or from your install log book? Scoresheets and the IASCA/SLAP/USAC events you've won with would be great. Thanks
Old May 9, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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hmmm, this should be intresting. lets see if the seller is just BS'ing to sell his eq, or if he knows what he talking about....


I already know the answer... but we'll see.


interesting this will be indeed...
Old May 9, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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Oh, and did you have to do any modifacation to install those 4 speakers, or did they just go right in?


just curious.


Originally Posted by Shaymax
VERY NICE car audio system for sale. System is currently in a 1990 Nissan Maxima. Pioneer Head unit w/ single CD player. 6 disc Pioneer changer, OZ audio 5.25 components in front door panels and rear deck lid. Crossover network included. Three Alumapro Alchemy 10" in a custom bandpass enclosure. Box is custom made for a 3rd generation maxima. Six 3" PVC tubes direct the bass directly into the listening area of the vehicle via the rear deck lid. Rear deck lid could be sold with this system seeing it has so much done to it. There is a black metal grill for trim to cover the PVC tubes. TOP OF THE LINE WIRING ALL INCLUDED. Three Stinger RCA for front, rear, and Subwoofer. Double 2 gauge runs from a Spiral Core battery included, 150 amp breaker, all distribution blocks, 1 farad capacitor. Orion 1100 XTR on subs, Orion 500 xtr on interior. This system was built for Sound Quality competition and has won all events it entered. Clifford Alarm extra $$. If someone bought this for a 3rd generation max i could also include all cosmetic panels for the trunk as well. (Black carpeted custom trim panels) If interested, please email me at shayjunk@charter.net (Junk meaning junk mail!!) $2000.00 takes it all but alarm. $350 extra for alarm with keyless everything.
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anxiously waiting for a reply on this now too....

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Yes, please do share how you fit 5.25"s in the front and rear. Don't keep us waiting
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bandpass = SQ ......buahahaha
Old May 10, 2004 | 08:39 AM
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Yes, please do share how you fit 5.25"s in the front and rear. Don't keep us waiting

LoL I missed that one. Coulda at least went with 6.5s....

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Old May 10, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaymax
You must have no life and nothing to do to reply with that
and you must dumb to make a reply like that.

You are indeed in the wrong section for this thread. (we have certian sections for a reason you know... ) and for all we know these speakers could be 10 years old, and everything is crap since you didn't post pics. how do you expect to sell your stuff if you don't post pics? also, this system was obviously NOT in a maxima due to your claim of having both front and rears at 5.25 inches. for your information, the front take 4.25, and the rear is 6x9. so right off the bat, we are doubting you. and with good reason. so unless you can provide some type of information we will continue to think this way.

now the front speakers have a very odd "tripod" (hard to explain) type speaker in them, and really take a lot of work to make a 5.25 fit correctly. how did you manage that? also, i will not even begin to ask how you install 5.25 speakers in a 6x9 space. and if you did do it, it will look like complete crap. unless of course you put many many hours into building a frame/bondo/fiberglass the surroundings to mold into the speaker.


please let us know how you did this, and please provide pics.
Old May 10, 2004 | 08:52 AM
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I dont doubt that he had the stuff in a Maxima as 5 1/4s are relatively easy to fit into the stock housings of the Bose system. But if doing the work why not 6.5s. The same with the rears. Also 6 3"PVC pipes going through the rear deck? AND speakers in there>?

Also this guy needs to post what series Pioneer radio,changer,etc..Age? Which OZ components? Etc.... Its like saying, I have a car for sale, buy it. No details...

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Old May 10, 2004 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
I dont doubt that he had the stuff in a Maxima as 5 1/4s are relatively easy to fit into the stock housings of the Bose system. But if doing the work why not 6.5s. The same with the rears. Also 6 3"PVC pipes going through the rear deck? AND speakers in there>?

Also this guy needs to post what series Pioneer radio,changer,etc..Age? Which OZ components? Etc.... Its like saying, I have a car for sale, buy it. No details...

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Okay guys.... I sense the disbelief.... I will take post pics of the final install on my webspace, since I can not post pics in this forum. As for the deck it is a Premier P-720. I was also wrong on the OZ size.... after looking the receipt up for the model numbers, the are OZ-CS180 6" componets. I used them in both the rear and front because I got a good price on the pair. The reason for it being in the wrong forum....seems to be working.....TO GAIN ATTENTION!! (its also in the right forum if anyone wanted to know!)

What else..... I did not complete in any IsIasca or USAC events. (Even thought the car is very close to specs) For christ sake people.... I did mention I was in southern Wisconsin. The only competitions available around here are sponsered by the little audio shops themselves.

Finally I would like to say that you people are being pretty critical of a guy just trying to sell some gear...... This is why my add said "email me with any questions".

I will post in a few minutes the link to the pics page once I have scanned the pics in and uploaded them....
Old May 10, 2004 | 09:44 AM
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Okay guys.... I sense the disbelief.... I will take post pics of the final install on my webspace, since I can not post pics in this forum. As for the deck it is a Premier P-720. I was also wrong on the OZ size.... after looking the receipt up for the model numbers, the are OZ-CS180 6" componets. I used them in both the rear and front because I got a good price on the pair. The reason for it being in the wrong forum....seems to be working.....TO GAIN ATTENTION!! (its also in the right forum if anyone wanted to know!)

What else..... I did not complete in any IsIasca or USAC events. (Even thought the car is very close to specs) For christ sake people.... I did mention I was in southern Wisconsin. The only competitions available around here are sponsered by the little audio shops themselves.

Finally I would like to say that you people are being pretty critical of a guy just trying to sell some gear...... This is why my add said "email me with any questions".

I will post in a few minutes the link to the pics page once I have scanned the pics in and uploaded them....
Oh Yeah.....

The guy that asked about the mid-bass....

On the analyizer, the system read a nice natural curve. However, sonically... for my tastes, I would have liked a bit more. Both competitions that I entered this has come up with the judges, but didn't hurt me enough to lose the comp. BTW.... There were roughly 10 cars in each comp.
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Have you ever seen the factory holes on a 1990 maxima? they are made for the 4.25 speakers, and it would be a project in install 5.25 speakers, nevermind 6.5 speakers. and to mount 5.25-6.5 speakers in a 6x9 hole would require much cutting/drilling to make it fit, and you would have big holes on either side of the speaker. is it posable to make it work? yes. but why not just buy the correct sized speakers for the holes?




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I dont doubt that he had the stuff in a Maxima as 5 1/4s are relatively easy to fit into the stock housings of the Bose system. But if doing the work why not 6.5s. The same with the rears. Also 6 3"PVC pipes going through the rear deck? AND speakers in there>?

Also this guy needs to post what series Pioneer radio,changer,etc..Age? Which OZ components? Etc.... Its like saying, I have a car for sale, buy it. No details...

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Old May 10, 2004 | 10:00 AM
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Keep in mind that I did not vaccume or clean anything.

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Old May 10, 2004 | 10:02 AM
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The only reason i am being overly critical is because of the way you treated the guy that made the first post. there was no reason for it, since he was just stating the facts.

as for posting in the wrong fourm, you are not getting and more attention. look at the vies for the fourm.... it has only gone above 100 views. if you were to post this in the correct fourm, you would get more views, and also the people looking at the thread are poeple actually looking to buy equipment... unlike where where people come to ask questions.

you should also mention if you have all manuals, paperwork, rc's, what sized wire, condition of eq, prices of cost new. also, if your selling the alarm, you should give more information as well. such as, is it a 2-way alarm? remote start? who makes it? what kind of built in features? trunk release? window roll down? and such. i will look forward to the pictures.

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Okay guys.... I sense the disbelief.... I will take post pics of the final install on my webspace, since I can not post pics in this forum. As for the deck it is a Premier P-720. I was also wrong on the OZ size.... after looking the receipt up for the model numbers, the are OZ-CS180 6" componets. I used them in both the rear and front because I got a good price on the pair. The reason for it being in the wrong forum....seems to be working.....TO GAIN ATTENTION!! (its also in the right forum if anyone wanted to know!)

What else..... I did not complete in any IsIasca or USAC events. (Even thought the car is very close to specs) For christ sake people.... I did mention I was in southern Wisconsin. The only competitions available around here are sponsered by the little audio shops themselves.

Finally I would like to say that you people are being pretty critical of a guy just trying to sell some gear...... This is why my add said "email me with any questions".

I will post in a few minutes the link to the pics page once I have scanned the pics in and uploaded them....
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Originally Posted by Shaymax
Keep in mind that I did not vaccume or clean anything.

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all i see are red X's....
Old May 10, 2004 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Blkmax95c
and you must dumb to make a reply like that.

You are indeed in the wrong section for this thread. (we have certian sections for a reason you know... ) and for all we know these speakers could be 10 years old, and everything is crap since you didn't post pics. how do you expect to sell your stuff if you don't post pics? also, this system was obviously NOT in a maxima due to your claim of having both front and rears at 5.25 inches. for your information, the front take 4.25, and the rear is 6x9. so right off the bat, we are doubting you. and with good reason. so unless you can provide some type of information we will continue to think this way.

now the front speakers have a very odd "tripod" (hard to explain) type speaker in them, and really take a lot of work to make a 5.25 fit correctly. how did you manage that? also, i will not even begin to ask how you install 5.25 speakers in a 6x9 space. and if you did do it, it will look like complete crap. unless of course you put many many hours into building a frame/bondo/fiberglass the surroundings to mold into the speaker.


please let us know how you did this, and please provide pics.
"unless of course you put many many hours into building" --- I buitl a custom system.... is this not obvious?
Old May 10, 2004 | 10:04 AM
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well once i saw his response to my post i didnt feel like arguing. my post was very blunt but got the point across. i did not want to critique his system piece by piece because i knew other people would anyway.
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Originally Posted by Blkmax95c
all i see are red X's....
fixed the problem....sorry
Old May 10, 2004 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Blkmax95c
Have you ever seen the factory holes on a 1990 maxima? they are made for the 4.25 speakers, and it would be a project in install 5.25 speakers, nevermind 6.5 speakers. and to mount 5.25-6.5 speakers in a 6x9 hole would require much cutting/drilling to make it fit, and you would have big holes on either side of the speaker. is it posable to make it work? yes. but why not just buy the correct sized speakers for the holes?

Have I ever seen them? LoL, way more than I care to count. I have done well over 100Maximas just from this board aside from my regualr customers that are unaware of the Org. So yes my post was based on factual experience. 6.5s are a bit more difficult and require a substantial amount of more work, but still doable with simple MDF. 5 1/4"s are easily made to fit the stock locations with about 20 minutes of time.

Why not use the "right" sizes? Well first of all for front staging who would want a 4" driver? Unless possibly in a 3way setup. 5 1/4 doable and 6.5 usually preferred. In the rears obviously something would have to be fabricated, whether complex or not would depend on the person. But a 6.5 is round as opposed to a 6X9 being oval. Typically sound is reproduced through a round speaker.

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Old May 10, 2004 | 10:30 AM
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So.... is everybody satisfied?

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Old May 10, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaymax
fixed the problem....sorry

well, i must say, it is intresting... especially the pipes in the back. i am quite curious in how it sounds. the trunk looks nice except the big white board in the middle. paint it black!

sorry i doubted you, but it just seemed like an awful lot of work to do to a car, and then just sell all of it.


and don,

i understand 4.25s are bad... i used to have a 92 max, and it is now my buddys car, we installed 4.25 in front, and they actually sound damn good for what they are. but he can't put much bass to them. 6x9's or ok, but for true compition grade it is much better to have 6.5's. im sure you know that.

and i understand it can be done, but most people to not take it to that extreme, they just replace what is avlb, and make good with it. many people to not even know what MDF is, never mind trying to fit a big speaker in a small hole.

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Old May 10, 2004 | 10:42 AM
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no, it was not... i didn't think you knew what you were talking about.
it was my mistake, and i apologize. it was because of your sentence structure, the way you discribed everything. but i am still a little shocked that you didn't know the size of your internal speakers though..

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Originally Posted by Shaymax
"unless of course you put many many hours into building" --- I buitl a custom system.... is this not obvious?
Old May 10, 2004 | 10:45 AM
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well, i must say, it is intresting... especially the pipes in the back. i am quite curious in how it sounds. the trunk looks nice except the big white board in the middle. paint it black!

sorry i doubted you, but it just seemed like an awful lot of work to do to a car, and then just sell all of it.


and don,

i understand 4.25s are bad... i used to have a 92 max, and it is now my buddys car, we installed 4.25 in front, and they actually sound damn good for what they are. but he can't put much bass to them. 6x9's or ok, but for true compition grade it is much better to have 6.5's. im sure you know that.

and i understand it can be done, but most people to not take it to that extreme, they just replace what is avlb, and make good with it. many people to not even know what MDF is, never mind trying to fit a big speaker in a small hole.

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I have had some people complain about the white.... but then they see it at night with all the neon. (Blue) The next words out of their mouth are.... dont change a thing!!!
Old May 10, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Blkmax95c
no, it was not... i didn't think you knew what you were talking about.
it was my mistake, and i apologize. it was because of your sentence structure, the way you discribed everything. but i am still a little shocked that you didn't know the size of your internal speakers though..

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I was a little upset with myself on that!!!! You have to take into account that I am a professional audio engineer, I see all types and sizes of speakers week in and week out. It can get confusing.
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You're best luck will be to sell it piece by piece. Nobody's gonna want to buy all that, and you won't be getting close to the $2G (sorry just preparing you). If you're not willing to sell for that little bit of money, dampening and sealign your doors with deadener will help a lot in the midbass dept.

Get the model numbers (specially those OZ's) of all of it and consider either posting on some of the car audio forums or ebaying it. I wouldn't go to far with the SQ competitions thing. Too many people think of SQ comps differently.

Nice Orion amps you got there. Not what I'm looking for though.

Box looks ported through the rear deck...not bandpass. Thats a plus.

Anyway, just my $.02 from somebody who has bought and sold way too much car audio equiptment online.......
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Originally Posted by BBOYSTEVIE
You're best luck will be to sell it piece by piece. Nobody's gonna want to buy all that, and you won't be getting close to the $2G (sorry just preparing you). If you're not willing to sell for that little bit of money, dampening and sealign your doors with deadener will help a lot in the midbass dept.

Get the model numbers (specially those OZ's) of all of it and consider either posting on some of the car audio forums or ebaying it. I wouldn't go to far with the SQ competitions thing. Too many people think of SQ comps differently.

Nice Orion amps you got there. Not what I'm looking for though.

Box looks ported through the rear deck...not bandpass. Thats a plus.

Anyway, just my $.02 from somebody who has bought and sold way too much car audio equiptment online.......

I thought I saw in one of the pics. plexiglass covering the front of the subs, if so it's definately a Band Pass enclosure.

But you are right. Sell it piece by piece, no one will buy the whole system and not for 2K.
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Originally Posted by BBOYSTEVIE
You're best luck will be to sell it piece by piece. Nobody's gonna want to buy all that, and you won't be getting close to the $2G (sorry just preparing you). If you're not willing to sell for that little bit of money, dampening and sealign your doors with deadener will help a lot in the midbass dept.

Get the model numbers (specially those OZ's) of all of it and consider either posting on some of the car audio forums or ebaying it. I wouldn't go to far with the SQ competitions thing. Too many people think of SQ comps differently.

Nice Orion amps you got there. Not what I'm looking for though.

Box looks ported through the rear deck...not bandpass. Thats a plus.

Anyway, just my $.02 from somebody who has bought and sold way too much car audio equiptment online.......
So what woould you call this box if it is not a bandpass? (it is ported... but there is air space between the front of the subs and the plexi.... pics do not really show that)
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yeah it's a bandpass. gotta admit, that's a nice looking trunk.

oh and about the front doors being 4.25s , that's only true if the stock system had the bose setup, otherwise the front accepts 4x6's (stock)
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