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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 06:58 PM
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Which is way is better to face subs?

Which is way is better to face subs? Towards the trunk or towards the inside of the car?
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 07:10 PM
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towards the trunk. its sounds like **** when its towards u plus u get more bass when it faces the trunk
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 10:39 AM
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facing the trunk........the sound wave will bouce off the trunk kinda "multiplying" in power = more sound
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 12:36 PM
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what about inverted subs?
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 01:44 PM
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when the subs face the cabin, the bass is a bit tighter. when facing the rear it's a bit more boomier. just try both setups and see which one you like.
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 01:57 PM
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so cabin = more SQ? and trunk = more SPL?
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 02:56 PM
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i think it sounds more distorted when facing you
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Fosgate Fan
when the subs face the cabin, the bass is a bit tighter. when facing the rear it's a bit more boomier. just try both setups and see which one you like.

do you know this by experience? how about having the sub facing inboard or outboard? any thoughts on that?
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 04:53 PM
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do you know this by experience? how about having the sub facing inboard or outboard? any thoughts on that?
yes from experience. someone asked this question awhile back, so i went out and tried listening to each sub placement and compared.
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 05:31 PM
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with your car, towards the trunk
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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What about one sub out and one sub in?
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 12:04 PM
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What about one sub out and one sub in?
there are some bandpass boxes that are made like that, i dont understand the point tho
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 02:14 PM
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What about pointing it straight up? The box that I am building for my sub will only fit in with the driver pointed up.
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 02:41 PM
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pointed up is good for hatchback cars. its best to put it towards the trunk
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 03:28 PM
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just try it both ways and see which bass response you prefer.
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 05:04 PM
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i read that if the back of the sub is towards the cabin, you can feel the bass hit more
Old Oct 6, 2004 | 08:31 PM
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If you face them towards the trunk is going to be loud but...Is an anoying rattling all that bass hitting the trunk without an escape....I personally dont like that, I have the subs facing towards the cabin i like it is a tigher bass like someone mention.. if you have ports you can face them straight but most people will tell you that is not the best...To me thats the best way and i will end up doing that with my current set up.

Get all the opinions and learn from them, but at the end of the day, you have to listen and choose the setup you like.

Also remember that music comming from a system sounds to most people different I have people giving me props for my system but to me is not to my standards YET....
Old Oct 8, 2004 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Playero
If you face them towards the trunk is going to be loud but...Is an anoying rattling all that bass hitting the trunk without an escape....I personally dont like that, I have the subs facing towards the cabin i like it is a tigher bass like someone mention.. if you have ports you can face them straight but most people will tell you that is not the best...To me thats the best way and i will end up doing that with my current set up.
Same with me. Couldn't of said it any better.

By the way, what Square Kicker sub would fit perfectly in the space between the car and the trunk? A 8" or 10"?
Old Oct 8, 2004 | 12:27 PM
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Old Oct 9, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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First, figure out which you value more SQ or SPL, consider $ available and design from there. Square speakers inherently sacrifice some SQ for more surface area (SPL), so think about the tradeoff. Also, think about what type of music you will most often listen to and how you think it should sound, i.e. "boomy" or "tight". Consider if it is a sealed, ported or bandpass enclosure and the power available/needed to extract the most from each setup. There are many more considerations as well, but these are just a few I think may help you get you on your way.
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my experience, facing the cabin, the seat absorb the bass, where the trunk would reverberate the bass. with my bandpass, it worked best sideways in the far corner, against the seat) and the ports fired towards the trunk door. But every car is different. u have to keep moving it till it sounds best for you.
Old Oct 10, 2004 | 04:48 PM
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i have my two 10's in a ported box and i have them facing my backseat...i think this gives the tighter cleaner bass sound...while facing the trunk is louder.....like everyone else is saying, personal preference is key, just play around and chose what you like...
Old Oct 10, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Smaynor2934
i have my two 10's in a ported box and i have them facing my backseat...i think this gives the tighter cleaner bass sound...while facing the trunk is louder.....like everyone else is saying, personal preference is key, just play around and chose what you like...
agreed! I had a custom ported box made for 2 10s facing through the ski hole. Very tight response for SQ setup. Just wish the rest of my system was rock solid...

But anyways, I sold that box and subs, and I'm onto a new setup now. One single 12" CDT sub in a sealed box firing up through a hole cut in the rear deck. I have to seal off the back seat from the trunk for this to work right. I'm gonna try to get it done before xmas. Also CDT components up front going in and rear coaxials. Debating on the rears though, as I they will throw it off and I won't have a true front stage.

Sorry for the babbeling...
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 08:26 AM
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didn't kloogy have his eclipses firing up and he said that hit pretty d@mn good...good enough for the rearview mirror to fall off haha i have yet to do that with my solos
Old Oct 13, 2004 | 07:25 AM
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I am not a fan of aiming the sub toward the rear of the car. In my first Maxima, I had the sub in a box under the rear deck facing the back of the car. This did provide boomy bass, but there was a significant delay between the mids up front and the bass from the sub reaching my ears in the front seat. I did not like that at all.

In my new Maxima, I mounted 2 subs in the rear deck (in tiny aperiodic enclosures) firing up into the rear window. The difference is amazing. The bass is much, much tighter and there is no audible difference in time alignment between the subs and the front stage (indeed, the subs are much closer to the mids now).

I will never place a sub inside of a trunk again. The SQ just isn't good enough.
Old Oct 13, 2004 | 09:53 AM
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Does anyone have a wall setup? Where should you face you subs for sq or spl if you have a wall? Is it the same as without a wall?
Old Oct 13, 2004 | 06:02 PM
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a wall? dont they use that for SPL competitions? or i maybe i dont know what the fawk im talking about
Old Oct 13, 2004 | 06:07 PM
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If you point it to the outside people will hear it more, if you point it inside people cant hear it outside but its a bit more punch, o yeah dont forget when you are buying a amp, dont look at the wattage output, look for THD%, the more Thud the more bass from the speakers. also if you dont have Dyno mat always point it inside cause it sounds like s&it
Old Oct 13, 2004 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Ni_Nos_Maxima
If you point it to the outside people will hear it more, if you point it inside people cant hear it outside but its a bit more punch, o yeah dont forget when you are buying a amp, dont look at the wattage output, look for THD%, the more Thud the more bass from the speakers. also if you dont have Dyno mat always point it inside cause it sounds like s&it
THD is total harmonic distortion.. I always thought that THD was a main factor in picking out a high and mids amp..
Old Oct 13, 2004 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ni_Nos_Maxima
If you point it to the outside people will hear it more, if you point it inside people cant hear it outside but its a bit more punch, o yeah dont forget when you are buying a amp, dont look at the wattage output, look for THD%, the more Thud the more bass from the speakers. also if you dont have Dyno mat always point it inside cause it sounds like s&it
THD is the signal to noise ratio that an amp puts out, and the lower the dB the better. But in most cases, you can't even hear the noise.
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Chitwista
THD is total harmonic distortion.. I always thought that THD was a main factor in picking out a high and mids amp..
Correct. THD isn't extremely important for sub amps, as long as the THD isn't terrible. In fact, Class D amps, which are very popular for subs now, tend to have more THD than a similarly powered Class AB amp.
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so if i turn the THD up on my amp it will have more bass?
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 01:16 PM
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so if i turn the THD up on my amp it will have more bass?
THD isnt a control that you can turn up or down, it is a measurment of distortion that the amp puts out at a specific ohm load.. It is all in the way the amp was built..
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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has anyone used that square in the backseat to mount a single 10" driver? I'm thinkink about that. You could use the armrest as a damper
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 07:41 PM
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i put an 8 inch sub in there
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 08:59 PM
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thd doesnt really matter if you have decent subs, but combine high thd with crappy subs, and dayum does shiat start to suck! Anyways, i recomend the rear deck. Mount them in the deck and seal off the decklid and seat from the trunk and you will be amazed. I think i'm doin 3 10s or 3 12's in the rear deck when i pay off my tuition.
Old Oct 15, 2004 | 08:09 PM
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If you plan to face them toward the cabin, I would suggest trying to seal off the trunk from the cabin as much as possible. I had a setup once w/2 12's and if I pointed it forward, I had to have the windows down for it to hit harder. Once I sealed mine, it was like nite and day.
Old Oct 17, 2004 | 11:35 AM
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i used to have my ports facing the trunk lid and that provided a lot of "boomy" bass. my set-up is for spl. but not i have a semi-custom box and i now have 2 ports facing the rear window and 2 ports facing the inside of my car. it sounds pretty good that way, very clean crisp boomy bass that way.



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