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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 08:20 AM
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I saw this at WalMart

Pioneer Auto CD Player with 4 Speakers, DEHSP043

It came in a package for $100, are they any good. Dont worry about the price b/c i might get them for free. I'm just asking about quality and easy installation?
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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any pioneer CD player is decent and def worth it for free
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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anything you see at Walmart is NOT quality, hahaha...

anyway, many might disagree but I'll have to rate Pioneer stuff as tier 2 behind Kenwood and Apline..some "higher-class" stores around here (North CA) don't carry Pioneer stuff because of mixed reviews.
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 09:50 AM
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I saw that too. The speakers looked like they were made out of paper or some crappy material. It'll probably be a little better than stok. HU was pretty low end. I wouldn't put pioneer behind kenwood but behind alpine is a yes.
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 11:23 AM
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do u guys think this is worth putting in over the stock bose?
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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the pioneer should be puttin out more power than the stock bose, any of the decent recent versions are 45x4 watts at least, most are 50x4 (200w total). anything low end has its flaws, but i def prefer my pioneer over my gurl's alpine and they're both in the $160 price range.

the only great thing about bose is that most of the systems include mini amps for each speaker, and thier acouticly designed specifically for that vehicle. However my dad's Bose 6 CD in-dash changer has jammed quite often in his acura (dare i bring that up in the .org)
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by NookieMax
the pioneer should be puttin out more power than the stock bose, any of the decent recent versions are 45x4 watts at least, most are 50x4 (200w total).
it's not 45x4 or 50x4 continously...it's more like 22x4 or so
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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it's not 45x4 or 50x4 continously...it's more like 22x4 or so
yea alright, 50w would be the max power at one point, HU amps are still small no matter what brand
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by NYR1199
do u guys think this is worth putting in over the stock bose?
NO


The head unit is ok, but the speakers are most likely Pioneer's lowest line and not worth the box they come in. If you need to replace the radio, yea that will work. As far as being better than the Bose, get yourself a nice set of components and quality HU. I have the DEH-1100 (probably similar to that one) in my Bronco and i'm not too happy at all. It does do the job though.
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 11:39 PM
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the bose system kicks ***.. im adding a 3rd bose sub to my rear deck.. that should sound pretty nice.. but bose is one of the most respected names in sound... and yea. a 100 set.. will not be better than the bose... well atleast speaker wise...
Old Dec 1, 2004 | 01:30 PM
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You get what you pay for. Even thought you're getting them for free they would've costed you around $100 and that's not a lot of money at all. So just use your judgement.
Old Dec 1, 2004 | 02:47 PM
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buy it....learn the hard way....
Old Dec 1, 2004 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by HomerMAC
the bose system kicks ***.. im adding a 3rd bose sub to my rear deck.. that should sound pretty nice.. but bose is one of the most respected names in sound... and yea. a 100 set.. will not be better than the bose... well atleast speaker wise...
IMHO ... 4th and 5th gen Bose gear sucks. I find many who disagree and to them I say, Bravo. If you like it, I'm glad you're happy.

Their home stuff is okay. They're very innovative. Their gear will last a long time too. However, I'll take a 30 year old tube amp and some 30 year old Sansui floor speakers over anything Bose for the home.

If you want to hear my idea of real car sound, go get a nice (Alpine or similar) 75 or 100 x 4 amp and get some high quality components. Power tweets separately from woofers if possible (requires an active crossover network and you'd have to buy a second amp for the sub) or use the other 2 channels for a sub. Buy any crappy sub and experiment to find the perfect box size. All a $hitty sub needs is a good box. (You may not get competition winning dB's from it, but almost any sub can sound good in the right box) Then get a decent headunit and power the OEM rear speakers with that - keep them at -6dB from the fronts. Total cost? I say you can do it for under $1000 used. Probably even still around $1000 new if you're savvy. It will kick any Bose system's a$$.

How much was that factory Bose option again?
Old Dec 1, 2004 | 05:31 PM
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i like my pioneer but i would never use the amp on the cdplayer. all those amps claim to do 22.5 rms, but im sure any 4 channel amp rated at 20 rms would be 4 time louder and sound better. i have 2 sets of components and 2 tweets running up front off of a 2 channel amp and it sounds great. you can get a nice 2 channel that can run at 1 ohm stereo. and run a lot of speakers off 1 amp.
Old Dec 1, 2004 | 09:00 PM
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I like Wal-mart for lots of things: toilet paper, deodorant, soda, DVD's, laundry detergent. NOT car stereo.
Old Dec 1, 2004 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ucdaznboy96

anyway, many might disagree but I'll have to rate Pioneer stuff as tier 2 behind Kenwood and Apline..some "higher-class" stores around here (North CA) don't carry Pioneer stuff because of mixed reviews.
Your stores are misinforming you over there. Pioneer is definately a bit ahead of Kenwood. As for quality products,longevity,creativity,etc. I send out more broken Kenwoods than any other 3 companies combined. They are also notorious for "noise" in their flawed HUs.

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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 06:32 AM
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Your stores are misinforming you over there. Pioneer is definately a bit ahead of Kenwood. As for quality products,longevity,creativity,etc. I send out more broken Kenwoods than any other 3 companies combined. They are also notorious for "noise" in their flawed HUs.

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I've had 4 Kenwoods in my lifetime. Everyone of them had problems within 1 - 1-1/2 years. I will probably never buy Kenwood again.
Old Dec 2, 2004 | 07:10 AM
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i would place the lower end models of pioneer ahead of the mid range kenwood models. For free i say take it. u could sell it on ebay. but to see the true power of a pioneer u need a 3600 or greater. or premier 360 or higher. paper speaker will be fine with bass blockers ao a crossover to remove the low end frequencies(sp?).
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