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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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remote start & alarm in 6 speed / pricing?

this guy quoted me $550 to install an alarm/remote start in a 5.5gen
I think his price is a bit high, what do you think?

it is a CA630 by code alarm, its a $130 part but he gets them for like 100, so why is he charging me over $400 for labor?

lifetime warranty as well

thoughts?
Old Jan 19, 2005 | 11:23 AM
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See sig below, this also applies to Clifford Matrix RS3.5 Responder.....A definately above Codealarm

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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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See sig below, this also applies to Clifford Matrix RS3.5 Responder.....A definately above Codealarm

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i saw your sig already

what does it mean?

is that auto start included

was it installed on a manual tranny car

who installs it? was it you? what is the guarantee?

i see the price, and its a viper, but there are some other variables here
Old Jan 19, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by super_crab_man
i saw your sig already

what does it mean?

is that auto start included

was it installed on a manual tranny car

who installs it? was it you? what is the guarantee?

i see the price, and its a viper, but there are some other variables here

It means thats the price of the Viper 791 or RS3.5 installed, hence the price and the statement of 'installed'

Yes that includes remote start, it a Viper 791 which is an alarm/remote start unit

Yes if you check around Ive done dozens of these.

Yes I install it, thats why I put it in my sig. All Viper/Clifford products carry a lifetime warranty provided theyre bought and installed by a dealer.

What other variables are you speaking of?

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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 11:44 AM
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It means thats the price of the Viper 791 or RS3.5 installed, hence the price and the statement of 'installed'

Yes that includes remote start, it a Viper 791 which is an alarm/remote start unit

Yes if you check around Ive done dozens of these.

Yes I install it, thats why I put it in my sig. All Viper/Clifford products carry a lifetime warranty provided theyre bought and installed by a dealer.

What other variables are you speaking of?

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ok so its the Viper 791xv, which is like $230 bucks
So i can get it installed for less money and end up with a nicer alarm

Are you an autohorized dealer?
Do you honor the lifetime warranty? obviously i cant take it out myself and send it back to viper, the installer has to take care of it
Finally, where are you located? Edison? Funny, my uncle grew up there. He lived on Heman St. remember He-man from the 80s? hahhaha
Old Jan 19, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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update:
found a place that will do a nicer alarm for 475 or 575 respectivley
that is for compustar alarm/remote start w/ 2 way pager
the latter works up to 6000 feet... WHOA thats like 2 miles?
Old Jan 19, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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hey bro - trust me and the rest of the entire forum


stick with don and get the 791.

case closed
Old Jan 19, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by super_crab_man
Are you an autohorized dealer?
Don is a dealer, installer and whatever else you want him to be. Don't go to some crap corner store, have Don install it. He did my alarm and entire system.
Old Jan 19, 2005 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by super_crab_man
the latter works up to 6000 feet... WHOA thats like 2 miles?
6000 ft is only 1 mile, and NO alarm will work that far in a city.
Old Jan 19, 2005 | 04:07 PM
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Do yourself a favor (I'm not endorsing anyone) and just make sure you get a DEI alarm. This means Viper, Python, Clifford, even Avatal stuff wasn't too bad pre-DEI (haven't used it since). I have had my Python 3000 for 5+ years with 4 window modules, trunk release, etc (no remote start) with ZERO problems. It has been nothing but good to me.

This means NOT "Compustar" (Who the F is that?)
Old Jan 19, 2005 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Big_Ham
This means NOT "Compustar" (Who the F is that?)
I think thats a Best Buy product.
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i read up some on the alarm, it actually got awards and stuff for being the most innovative, seemed like a decent brand, better than "code alarm"

plus it is manual transmission compatible

just because you havent heard of a brand doesnt mean its bad, there is a lot of stuff out there nowadays


Don - do you work out of edison, where is your shop? do you have a website?
Old Jan 19, 2005 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by super_crab_man
just because you havent heard of a brand doesnt mean its bad, there is a lot of stuff out there nowadays.
I think I would trust a company thats been around for a LONG TIME more then a company I have never heard of.
Old Jan 19, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by super_crab_man
plus it is manual transmission compatible
ANY alarm is manual compatible but not RECOMMENDED for manuals because people sometimes park in gear.
Old Jan 19, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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ANY alarm is manual compatible but not RECOMMENDED for manuals because people sometimes park in gear.
http://www.compustar.org/products.htm

three awards for innovation

check out the first and second one down, they look pretty cool to me

http://www.compustar.org/security_with_remote_start.htm
Old Jan 19, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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That means nothing(to me atleast). Design and engineering have nothing to do with reliability and warranty. Consumer referrals and reviews is more of what pushes me to buy a product or go to an installer.
Old Jan 19, 2005 | 08:18 PM
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That means nothing(to me atleast). Design and engineering have nothing to do with reliability and warranty. Consumer referrals and reviews is more of what pushes me to buy a product or go to an installer.
ok i found reviews, they both out perform the viper alarm as per consumer reviews

so now what do you think?

plus alarms don't have moving parts, i dont see how reliability is that much different from one to the next, it all depends on the installer, if they dont make tight connections then wires could heat up and blow a breaker (like my clifford) so...

http://www.acurainspired.com/reviews...=29&cmd=browse
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Originally Posted by super_crab_man
ok i found reviews, they both out perform the viper alarm as per consumer reviews

so now what do you think?

plus alarms don't have moving parts, i dont see how reliability is that much different from one to the next, it all depends on the installer, if they dont make tight connections then wires could heat up and blow a breaker (like my clifford) so...

http://www.acurainspired.com/reviews...=29&cmd=browse
Dude, you came in here asking for advice. We gave it to you. If you want to buy the Compustar, please by all means buy it and leave us alone.

Old Jan 19, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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Don,

You do remote start installs on manual transmissions now? I didn't think you did.

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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by super_crab_man
I'm sorry, what exactly am I looking at on that site? Theres only ONE review for the Compustar and 2 reviews for the LAST GENERATION Viper alarm. I don't think helps in your arguement.
Old Jan 19, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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Oh yea, about moving parts, circuits do go bad, wiring can be done half-a$$ed. PCBs do go bad......I can go on.......
Old Jan 19, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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Compustar released there first product in late 1999. DECADES after DEI was already the World leader in aftermarket security. DEI is not only a multi Billion dollar company but also ISO9001 certified, as well as QS9000 certified. They have absolutely the Best tech support in the business as well as the most used products.

The Only thing that compustar has the advantage with is their slightly longer range which is typically useless anyway. Whens the last time you left your car and went Only a mile away in Optimum conditions (desert)? With that being said, after your alarm goes off a mile away Exactly how fast can you run a mile to check on it??

To add even more...ALL of compustars components are extremely large and distasteful, especially the antenna and remote.

Warranty for Viper/Clifford can be serviced at Any dealer in the country, which is about 30 to 1 over Compustar dealers. Might have a bit of trouble if your place closes or you move.

I can go on and on about this subject, but I guess my 17+ years of this business probably doesnt appeal to you.

And no this is not a biased response, as I am also a dealer for Compustar.

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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick97SE
Don,

You do remote start installs on manual transmissions now? I didn't think you did.

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Nick, quite awhile now, ever since I was able to find and use the neutral safety wire and utilize it to safetely start them. You know me...

BTW...where the h3ll have ya been?

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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 06:04 AM
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Compustar released there first product in late 1999. DECADES after DEI was already the World leader in aftermarket security. DEI is not only a multi Billion dollar company but also ISO9001 certified, as well as QS9000 certified. They have absolutely the Best tech support in the business as well as the most used products.

The Only thing that compustar has the advantage with is their slightly longer range which is typically useless anyway. Whens the last time you left your car and went Only a mile away in Optimum conditions (desert)? With that being said, after your alarm goes off a mile away Exactly how fast can you run a mile to check on it??

To add even more...ALL of compustars components are extremely large and distasteful, especially the antenna and remote.

Warranty for Viper/Clifford can be serviced at Any dealer in the country, which is about 30 to 1 over Compustar dealers. Might have a bit of trouble if your place closes or you move.

I can go on and on about this subject, but I guess my 17+ years of this business probably doesnt appeal to you.

And no this is not a biased response, as I am also a dealer for Compustar.

--Don

now that sounds like a better explanation

the reason i keep going back and forth with questions is to challenge the so called "experts" on this forum

to often i see people getting 1 or 2 sentence, biased, and curt answers and I'm just not accepting that as a legitimate argument

however your explanation that extends a paragraph is much more convincing

plus people start posting rude comments like "Dude, you came in here asking for advice. We gave it to you. If you want to buy the Compustar, please by all means buy it and leave us alone."

how am i supposed to take that seriously? i can't because bigHam sounds like a 14 yr old, and 14 yr olds dont know anything

do you have any contact info for your shop? i'm looking to get this done pretty soon and its coooooooold out
Old Jan 20, 2005 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by MacAlert
Don is a dealer, installer and whatever else you want him to be. Don't go to some crap corner store, have Don install it. He did my alarm and entire system.
You guys are funny. He can't go to Don for an install....the dude lives in texas.

Sheesh.
Old Jan 20, 2005 | 06:21 AM
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Don, can u post up your phone # or PM me?
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Listen "super crab man", you're kidding me, right? I gave my REAL WORLD 5+ year experience with my DEI product. It just so happens I used to install DEI alarms when I was in college, so I do have experience that extends beyond just my alarm - but 5+ years with an alarm that doesn't give any problems is an impressive feat. Find someone with a Code Alarm, Alpine or similar alarm and I guarantee you that 1 out of 5 of them had issues at some point in time. I saw it all the time when people would bring in their POS Code Alarm for us to fix and we would just sell them a DEI.

As to your reference that I'm 14, that's simply an ignorant comment. You don't know how to ask an intelligent question, so expect un-intelligent answers. We provided information conrtrary to Code Alarm once we heard you mention it (without referring to code alarm directly) and then you **** on our advice and tell us you found a "better" alarm (didn't you come to us to find what's good and you're calling this "better"?) which we also shun. Then you go out argumentatively and find a review saying how great it is ... and find out your review means jack. Then you get defensive and start calling people names just because they were right and you were wrong.

Am I on to anything here, crabby d1ck?
Old Jan 20, 2005 | 06:40 AM
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Now now children, Lets keep it civil.

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Originally Posted by super_crab_man
now that sounds like a better explanation

the reason i keep going back and forth with questions is to challenge the so called "experts" on this forum

to often i see people getting 1 or 2 sentence, biased, and curt answers and I'm just not accepting that as a legitimate argument

however your explanation that extends a paragraph is much more convincing

plus people start posting rude comments like "Dude, you came in here asking for advice. We gave it to you. If you want to buy the Compustar, please by all means buy it and leave us alone."

how am i supposed to take that seriously? i can't because bigHam sounds like a 14 yr old, and 14 yr olds dont know anything

do you have any contact info for your shop? i'm looking to get this done pretty soon and its coooooooold out
You can reach me at: 732-921-9046. Why does your location now read Texas rather than NJ?
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Don, can u post up your phone # or PM me?
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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 07:05 AM
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You guys are funny. He can't go to Don for an install....the dude lives in texas.

Sheesh.
His original location showed "Toms River, NJ"
Old Jan 20, 2005 | 08:14 AM
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I think he just needed a reason to install the Compustar rather then the Viper.
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I think he just needed a reason to install the Compustar rather then the Viper.

could be...
Old Jan 20, 2005 | 08:19 AM
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Or he's just scared!!!
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Listen "super crab man", you're kidding me, right?

Am I on to anything here, crabby d1ck?

dood, read your stupid posts, then read Don's posts
he gives reasonable, unbiased, and intelligent answers

you just ramble on like your cool and how you installed car alarms in college (did you do that before or after the keg stands) but you have no credibility and are obviously not a professional, so just keep your comments to yourself

as for my location, i dont live in texas or new jersey, i'm from philly

as for me saying i found a "better alarm" i meant it was better than the code alarm that someone mentioned to me, i didn't say it was better than viper, you just misread what i posted, but thats ok because its only text and things can be misread

as for cisco? why would i post my # for u i dun even know who u are

and as for Don, I'll let you know if and when I want to do the install so we can schedule a time, i'll pay cash

i dont have a hard on for compustar, its just that out several places i call, no one wants to auto start a stick, so far my only options are code alarm, compustar, and viper. if i had other options i would think about them too

thanks for your help
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Crabcake- Learn to read. I was not asking you for your #.
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as for my location, i dont live in texas or new jersey, i'm from philly
Then put that in please instead of changing constantly.
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as for cisco? why would i post my # for u i dun even know who u are
Dude, LEARN TO READ, he didn't ask for your #, he asked for Don's #.
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Crabcake- Learn to read. I was not asking you for your #.

oops, apparently i have misread somthing too
see that no one is perfect


ok i updated my city

the IT admins should really validate the city field, if they are interested in having a consultant do it, feel free to contact me, i am for hire


lol crab cake that is hilarious
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oops, apparently i have misread somthing too
see that no one is perfect


ok i updated my city

the IT admins should really validate the city field, if they are interested in having a consultant do it, feel free to contact me, i am for hire


lol crab cake that is hilarious

Your location needs to be edited again. You said you were in Philly, post that. Also the phrase in there needs to be removed. This will be the Last time I ASK.

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