Radar Detectors
slickrick has an Escort Solo, so he might chime in. Valentine1 is the only way to go. Save your money and dont buy anything else except it. And theres only one place to get it, valentine1.com, for 400. Well worth it. Or you could just try not speeding 
-kevin
-kevin
i havent done a head up comparison but my roomate just got a v1 and i have the escort solo. his radar bugs the **** out of me cuz it goes off more than mine does for no reason. he claims its because of the settings which i do believe. even so, v1>all.
OMG, another radar detector thread! hahahahahah I love it...
This topic has been discussed over and over. Like beating a dead horse.
Buy the Passport X50 if you don't have the loot for the V1. If you can wait longer and save $$ over time, get the V1.
I have both of them. They both have their upsides and downsides. I couldn't stand the fights between the V1 and the 8500, so I bought both of them!
Andy
This topic has been discussed over and over. Like beating a dead horse.
Buy the Passport X50 if you don't have the loot for the V1. If you can wait longer and save $$ over time, get the V1.
I have both of them. They both have their upsides and downsides. I couldn't stand the fights between the V1 and the 8500, so I bought both of them!
Andy
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I have the 8500 X50 .... I have been very happy with it..... it works very well... however know that the police know how to make you work for it.... so many people have detectors... the traffic cops tend to keep their systems on stand by and only turn them on when they see a car that looks like it is speeding.... so in light traffic your eyes are your best defense..... the X50 will find the lazy cops running their radar from very far distances 
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Originally Posted by slickrick
^^^ another gville member????
check out the local club www.intmo.com .... for local automotive fun
lol uh-oh, watch out if this thread gets outta hand mike will lock it simply because he doesnt like passport, its happened before
BTW Mike are you the one who locked my thread in the 5th gen forum with the pic of the GT-R badged 5th gen? We cant have a single thread that remotely has fun in there? There wasnt a single bad thing in there...and no mod even posted saying why it got locked which is what I have beef with...
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=392161
-Kevin
BTW Mike are you the one who locked my thread in the 5th gen forum with the pic of the GT-R badged 5th gen? We cant have a single thread that remotely has fun in there? There wasnt a single bad thing in there...and no mod even posted saying why it got locked which is what I have beef with...
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=392161
-Kevin
Originally Posted by kpr10is
lol uh-oh, watch out if this thread gets outta hand mike will lock it simply because he doesnt like passport, its happened before
BTW Mike are you the one who locked my thread in the 5th gen forum with the pic of the GT-R badged 5th gen? We cant have a single thread that remotely has fun in there? There wasnt a single bad thing in there...and no mod even posted saying why it got locked which is what I have beef with...
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=392161
-Kevin
BTW Mike are you the one who locked my thread in the 5th gen forum with the pic of the GT-R badged 5th gen? We cant have a single thread that remotely has fun in there? There wasnt a single bad thing in there...and no mod even posted saying why it got locked which is what I have beef with...
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=392161
-Kevin
I locked the radar thread because of the 100% bullshiet info in it.....
the GTR thread i didnt even see, Im not clear as to who did it....but I will unlock it for ya.
Originally Posted by z32drifter
now you know why I invested in the X50 .... between ASO and GPD traffic enforcement can be a PITA
check out the local club www.intmo.com .... for local automotive fun
check out the local club www.intmo.com .... for local automotive fun
Originally Posted by E55AMG2
I locked the radar thread because of the 100% bullshiet info in it.....
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Originally Posted by kpr10is
who are you, where you came from or why me and rich have never seen you post here before or you havent come to any central fl maxima meets
(after Tampa traffic woohooo) out every thur night with the INTMO guys .. sometimes the Max .. mostly in the Z .... as far as the Maxima meets .. they seem to have bad timing .. between work/vacation/SCCA....
have you guys ever heard of or considered than radar detector that goes under the license plate..and makes you invisible to cops radars..its like a block out thing..around maybe $700 dollars but if you get a ticket the company pays for it..i think i read somewhere about it but i cant get my finger on what its called
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sounds like the K40 remote system .... they will pay a ticket.... as long as it's not like 120 in a school zone..... they have a limit.... but it is a detector... there are not effective radar jammers for cars. even if there were.... radar jammers are illegal ... laser jammers are not illegal yet and have been shown to work .... however the cop will see that you are messing with his gun and may just write you a ticket anyway... and take his chances in court ... his our better than ours 
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I bought a V1 about two years ago and I have never gotten a speeding ticket(many close calls). I am also very careful when I drive fast. I'm not like all the morons out there who go 120 down the highway thinking they are protected because they have a radar detector.
I had problems with the V1 being too sensitive, but I read the manual and changed it so it pays less attention to X band and more attention to K, Ka and Laser. I'm in Upstate NY and the state troopers use Ka and sometimes Laser. In my area, X band are usually automatic doors and security systems.
-Graham
I had problems with the V1 being too sensitive, but I read the manual and changed it so it pays less attention to X band and more attention to K, Ka and Laser. I'm in Upstate NY and the state troopers use Ka and sometimes Laser. In my area, X band are usually automatic doors and security systems.
-Graham
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I have the 8500 and love it. My father in-law has a V1 and he loves it. Over Christmas, my wife and I went and visited them in Raleigh and decided to put them to the test. Here's what we were able to determine by putting them both in the car at the same time:
-The V1 has greater sensitivity to X band, which is great if you are detecting door openers.
-Both have comparable K band detection, going off almost in unison.
-The 8500 was just a little better in Ka from a distance and reaction time.
-We didn't get hit by laser, but from what I understand, if you do it's too late anyway.
-The V1 case is metal (instead of plastic like the 8500) so it's gonna be more durable if you accidentally drop it.
-The 8500 is sleeker and not as bulky. The V1 is a massive hunk on the windshield.
-The V1 mounts better to the windshield.
-Last but not least, the V1 arrows. This seems to be the one overall feature that makes the V1 stand out. We both agreed the arrows are cool, but perhaps not all that practical, especially in a large city.
We were only able to actually spot about 25% of the cops even knowing where to look and the majority of them were in the median ahead of us or on the on ramp as we passed (where you expect them to be). It does let you know as you are going by them if the cop is leaving it on the whole time, but since most of the cops flip them on and off, that rarely occurs.
Even though the V1 can track multiple signals, you can't be certain it's not a new signal coming from a different cop if you all of a sudden get a rear signal or one from the side, after a front signal, since they could actually not have them on at the same time. In other words, you could actually assume you know the place where the cop is and think you have passed him and he be working in tandem with another cop and you get burned. Or, god forbid, you are picking up a door opener from the side and you get nailed from behind.
The bottom line is that a radar detector is for telling you to slow down, so knowing where they are is a distant priority (especially when you can't find them most of the time).
-In conclusion, we found that we were both happy with our detectors and that we would feel comfortable with either on our dash.
So how's that for not helping you decide?
-The V1 has greater sensitivity to X band, which is great if you are detecting door openers.
-Both have comparable K band detection, going off almost in unison.
-The 8500 was just a little better in Ka from a distance and reaction time.
-We didn't get hit by laser, but from what I understand, if you do it's too late anyway.
-The V1 case is metal (instead of plastic like the 8500) so it's gonna be more durable if you accidentally drop it.
-The 8500 is sleeker and not as bulky. The V1 is a massive hunk on the windshield.
-The V1 mounts better to the windshield.
-Last but not least, the V1 arrows. This seems to be the one overall feature that makes the V1 stand out. We both agreed the arrows are cool, but perhaps not all that practical, especially in a large city.
We were only able to actually spot about 25% of the cops even knowing where to look and the majority of them were in the median ahead of us or on the on ramp as we passed (where you expect them to be). It does let you know as you are going by them if the cop is leaving it on the whole time, but since most of the cops flip them on and off, that rarely occurs.
Even though the V1 can track multiple signals, you can't be certain it's not a new signal coming from a different cop if you all of a sudden get a rear signal or one from the side, after a front signal, since they could actually not have them on at the same time. In other words, you could actually assume you know the place where the cop is and think you have passed him and he be working in tandem with another cop and you get burned. Or, god forbid, you are picking up a door opener from the side and you get nailed from behind.
The bottom line is that a radar detector is for telling you to slow down, so knowing where they are is a distant priority (especially when you can't find them most of the time).
-In conclusion, we found that we were both happy with our detectors and that we would feel comfortable with either on our dash.
So how's that for not helping you decide?
Originally Posted by bamasae
I have the 8500 and love it. My father in-law has a V1 and he loves it. Over Christmas, my wife and I went and visited them in Raleigh and decided to put them to the test. Here's what we were able to determine by putting them both in the car at the same time:
-The V1 has greater sensitivity to X band, which is great if you are detecting door openers.
-Both have comparable K band detection, going off almost in unison.
-The 8500 was just a little better in Ka from a distance and reaction time.
-We didn't get hit by laser, but from what I understand, if you do it's too late anyway.
-The V1 case is metal (instead of plastic like the 8500) so it's gonna be more durable if you accidentally drop it.
-The 8500 is sleeker and not as bulky. The V1 is a massive hunk on the windshield.
-The V1 mounts better to the windshield.
-Last but not least, the V1 arrows. This seems to be the one overall feature that makes the V1 stand out. We both agreed the arrows are cool, but perhaps not all that practical, especially in a large city.
We were only able to actually spot about 25% of the cops even knowing where to look and the majority of them were in the median ahead of us or on the on ramp as we passed (where you expect them to be). It does let you know as you are going by them if the cop is leaving it on the whole time, but since most of the cops flip them on and off, that rarely occurs.
Even though the V1 can track multiple signals, you can't be certain it's not a new signal coming from a different cop if you all of a sudden get a rear signal or one from the side, after a front signal, since they could actually not have them on at the same time. In other words, you could actually assume you know the place where the cop is and think you have passed him and he be working in tandem with another cop and you get burned. Or, god forbid, you are picking up a door opener from the side and you get nailed from behind.
The bottom line is that a radar detector is for telling you to slow down, so knowing where they are is a distant priority (especially when you can't find them most of the time).
-In conclusion, we found that we were both happy with our detectors and that we would feel comfortable with either on our dash.
So how's that for not helping you decide?
-The V1 has greater sensitivity to X band, which is great if you are detecting door openers.
-Both have comparable K band detection, going off almost in unison.
-The 8500 was just a little better in Ka from a distance and reaction time.
-We didn't get hit by laser, but from what I understand, if you do it's too late anyway.
-The V1 case is metal (instead of plastic like the 8500) so it's gonna be more durable if you accidentally drop it.
-The 8500 is sleeker and not as bulky. The V1 is a massive hunk on the windshield.
-The V1 mounts better to the windshield.
-Last but not least, the V1 arrows. This seems to be the one overall feature that makes the V1 stand out. We both agreed the arrows are cool, but perhaps not all that practical, especially in a large city.
We were only able to actually spot about 25% of the cops even knowing where to look and the majority of them were in the median ahead of us or on the on ramp as we passed (where you expect them to be). It does let you know as you are going by them if the cop is leaving it on the whole time, but since most of the cops flip them on and off, that rarely occurs.
Even though the V1 can track multiple signals, you can't be certain it's not a new signal coming from a different cop if you all of a sudden get a rear signal or one from the side, after a front signal, since they could actually not have them on at the same time. In other words, you could actually assume you know the place where the cop is and think you have passed him and he be working in tandem with another cop and you get burned. Or, god forbid, you are picking up a door opener from the side and you get nailed from behind.
The bottom line is that a radar detector is for telling you to slow down, so knowing where they are is a distant priority (especially when you can't find them most of the time).
-In conclusion, we found that we were both happy with our detectors and that we would feel comfortable with either on our dash.
So how's that for not helping you decide?
Invalid test, you cannot place two superheterodyne devices in the same vehicle....the one with poorer shielding will interfere with the other....As for your results, every published test (not by craig peterson) shows that the V1 is significantly better in ALL areas.
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Originally Posted by E55AMG2
Invalid test, you cannot place two superheterodyne devices in the same vehicle....the one with poorer shielding will interfere with the other....As for your results, every published test (not by craig peterson) shows that the V1 is significantly better in ALL areas.
It's a lot like the old argument between Intel and AMD people. AMD people usually say, it's just as good, better in some areas, and cheaper...Intel people say Intel smokes AMD in any true test and if you can afford it why not get the best. What it comes down to is that they both do a very comparable job and each has it's own niche. It's the same thing with these two dectectors.
One thing I would like to ask though since you are obviously an engineer and have a stranglehold on the "superheterodyne devices." I wonder why the V1 did better than the 8500 on X band if the supposed poorer shielding of the 8500 interfered with the V1. I'll wager you'll say it would have done EVEN better if it wasn't for that 8500 getting in it's way, right?
Come on man, you know the 8500 is solid, it's just a pride thing because you paid more. I'm glad my father in-law isn't a zealot, at least he's objective.
Originally Posted by bamasae
I didn't say it was scientific, it's just a simple comparison.
I do find it quite amusing that the V1 zealots get real crazy when you ever compare anything to their V1.
It's a lot like the old argument between Intel and AMD people. AMD people usually say, it's just as good, better in some areas, and cheaper...Intel people say Intel smokes AMD in any true test and if you can afford it why not get the best. What it comes down to is that they both do a very comparable job and each has it's own niche. It's the same thing with these two dectectors.
One thing I would like to ask though since you are obviously an engineer and have a stranglehold on the "superheterodyne devices." I wonder why the V1 did better than the 8500 on X band if the supposed poorer shielding of the 8500 interfered with the V1. I'll wager you'll say it would have done EVEN better if it wasn't for that 8500 getting in it's way, right?
Come on man, you know the 8500 is solid, it's just a pride thing because you paid more. I'm glad my father in-law isn't a zealot, at least he's objective.
I do find it quite amusing that the V1 zealots get real crazy when you ever compare anything to their V1.
It's a lot like the old argument between Intel and AMD people. AMD people usually say, it's just as good, better in some areas, and cheaper...Intel people say Intel smokes AMD in any true test and if you can afford it why not get the best. What it comes down to is that they both do a very comparable job and each has it's own niche. It's the same thing with these two dectectors.
One thing I would like to ask though since you are obviously an engineer and have a stranglehold on the "superheterodyne devices." I wonder why the V1 did better than the 8500 on X band if the supposed poorer shielding of the 8500 interfered with the V1. I'll wager you'll say it would have done EVEN better if it wasn't for that 8500 getting in it's way, right?
Come on man, you know the 8500 is solid, it's just a pride thing because you paid more. I'm glad my father in-law isn't a zealot, at least he's objective.
Sure it may be solid...but solid isnt good enough. I tried their 30 day free trial, and I wasnt impressed. The unit weighs a ton, is plastic, tracks one bogey at a time, and cant tell you which direction its coming from. While it may be the best of the rest, The 8500 isnt the best of the best.