I was browsing their site and clicked on this link. They look pretty beefy . It says it has 38mm of Xmax!


http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/f...showtopic=4209

 

I myself am not a Sound Splinter nutswinger like everyone else on the bandwagon.

That being said, that sub does look beefy. But quad stacked magnets seems a little inefficient to me. Im wondering its composition, like how Diamond used strontium 17x the strength of neo-dymium(sp?) from what I read, or something crazy like that.

But hey, Im no electrical engineer, just my .02 in between watching economics lectures online


-Kevin

 

I do not consider myself a nutswinger. I might have been one of the first ones here to try these out. To the best of my knowledge the only other person here who may have had these or knew of them was Robert_J. I took his advice since it seemed like he knew what he was talking about. I read some on other forums as well and decided to take a chance. I have been very impressed with this sub, it sounds good, no BS. Now that the word is getting around that they have a nice product at a good price more people are buying them. I see nothing wrong with this. Also Mike over at SS is very helpful and will answer any questions you may have, even if they point you towards another company.

 

huh? you must read between the lines on the org. many of us know all about SS drivers...mainly because TC sounds has been making them for years.

 

sound splinter nutswinger eh?

anyhow...those subs do look beefy. but i'm content with my RL-p

 

hmm content with 200 watts on it? weaksause kid.

 

*cough* the sub isn't being used right now...*cough*

but yes it sounded nice when i had only 200 going to it

 

I did not see many people either running these or the TC2+ drivers before I actually bought mine. The first person that I ever saw posting anything about these SS subs was Robert_J, this was before the site was actually fully up and running.

I was just stating that I was not a Tarzan type that was swinging .

 

I wasnt calling you or anyone specifically a nutswinger. Just that a lot of people on the forums are hopping on the SS bandwagon these days.

*cough*gordon*cough*


jk

 

who's gordon?

 

No prob .

 

Thread full of nutswingers.

 

Had to wait while the page loaded. That thing looks beefy. Holy snotrocket that is some serious excursion.

 

it would be nice if they had an RL-i 12"

 

Since my name was brought up a few times in this thread, I'll give my opinion. I'm skeptical about the new drivers T/S parameters. They are way out of the range that I feel is acceptable for anything but IB installs (both home and car). Mike is saying that they don't model the same because of the LMT technology. Stephen Ponte's (before he went to SVS) hand built LMT subs had very nice T/S parameters and even more excursion. There are a few "uber subs" with 40+mm of xmax. I'm going to wait to hear some personal reviews by known sub makers.

I recently read that the O Audio subs that are based on the TC2+ motor will be going to the LMT technology as well. They are already low distortion so adding a flat BL may make them better. As long as their T/S parameters don't go off the chart!

Finally, my disclaimer. I have no connection at all with TC Sounds or any company that sells them. I do have 6 TC Sounds built subs in my house right now and had another 2 come through recently (sold them). They have all sounded incredible.

-Robert

 

lol, nobody called you a fanboi robert J.

 

i believe they had the RL-i in 12" versions in the past. it's not in the current lineup though.

 

They did have them. They had SVC and DVC ones.

 

I wonder how that bad boy would do up against an ID max

 

smoke it like a black n mild...

 

Leave it too you too ghetto up the thread Rich....LOL

 

ya damn right.

 

But I do resemble that remark.

O Audio carries the TC2+ in 10", 12" and 15".

-Robert

 

Well first off you do not have your facts right. Strontium is a ceramic ferrite magnet that has a very low flux density compared to a comparable piece of Neodymium Iron Boran (NdFeB) magnet. On a typical scale of measurement the Br {Br: A value of induction at the point at Hysteresis Loop, at which Hysteresis loop crosses the B axis at zero magnetizing force. The Br represents the maximum magnetic flux density output of this material without an external magnetic field.} for Strontium is on average less than 10 KGs where the cheapest NdFeB magnet is >10. Car audio manufacturers use Strontium from a cost stand point alone. Strontium magnets would cost lets say $25 for a typical sub. A NdFeB magnet of the same size would cost them about 15-20x that. I personally would not want to handle a NdFeB of that size.

Before you light the flame throwers, yes I do work in the magnetics industry. Just because the size of the magnet is large and beefy, it does not always outperform something smaller!!!

 

it's BorOn

(sorry...for some reason it was bugging me...maybe too much chemistry this past 3 semesters )

 

It is all right... As much as I deal with it, we just call it Nd...

 

not sure if he claimed bigger magnets=more bass. my 15 has "less magnets" than some other 15s yet blows them out of the water.

 

Holy snotrockets remind me to NEVER argue magnetic properties with you. I hope you stick around to help us all out in that area.

 

that should be your trademark exclamation here on the org.

 

And it shall be done.... <-I love this smilie.