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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 05:32 PM
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Rainbow Profi Vans

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I'm putting my Rainbows up for sale:

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Some other car audio items on ebay:

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If you're interested please PM me. Pics of my new 3 way set up to come.
Old Nov 29, 2005 | 05:42 PM
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NICE. What are you running 3-way?
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Running DLS Iridium 6.3 off of my 4150 bridged. Got rid of the rear fill.
Old Nov 29, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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Running DLS Iridium 6.3 off of my 4150 bridged. Got rid of the rear fill.
******* it. Jealous to the n-th degree. You have it in, yet?
Old Nov 29, 2005 | 05:54 PM
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Yup, just got installed by Audionutz today. I'll be posting pics shortly.
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Yeah An Audionutz Install! Good For You!!!!!!!!

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The tweeters were mounted in the factory a pillars but some cutting was required to get them to fit. The mids were installed in the factory kicks and the 6.5s were mounted in the factory door locations. I also had a new DLS OA10 installed in the rear deck to replace my ID8. The fronts are being run passive off of my 4150 which is now bridged to two channels. My initial impressions are WOW! The tweeters are a lot smoother than my profis and the sub obviously hits a lot deeper. After the speakers break in Steve from Audionutz will be fine tuning the system for me. Pics:

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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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Very nice! Love the look of those grilles!

You going to get those mids aimed somewhere down the line?
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Nice basketballs you got installed there
Old Nov 29, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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Yeah not crazy about those grills but oh well. The mids will probably stay the way they are. Steve (audionutz) told me they'll work well off axis so they'll be staying put.
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Congrats...

But I have to say...wth is up with the a-pillars? looks like the installer cut a piece of his sock to wrap the tweeter cover. No offence, but I'm sure another fabric or grill cloth would've looked better.
Also how do you plan on dealing with the pathlength differences created by separating the domes from the tweets and still use the passive xover? Dont you have an H701? Another 2chs of power is in order and put that processor to use...you are missing out on their potential unless you can pull everything together..
Old Nov 29, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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Congrats and enjoy the install. Yeah Metal..off axis like that is great for domers making them an easy kick install...I agree the grilles for the tweets could look a lil better, but I like it how they hide the tweets to not draw attention to them. I'm sure full active would help this system a lot as Manny said...

All in all awesome...I'm sure it'll sound great with a Steve Head tune! Enjoy!

Planning to compete?
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Originally Posted by MannyNJ2k2max
Congrats...

But I have to say...wth is up with the a-pillars? looks like the installer cut a piece of his sock to wrap the tweeter cover. No offence, but I'm sure another fabric or grill cloth would've looked better.
Also how do you plan on dealing with the pathlength differences created by separating the domes from the tweets and still use the passive xover? Dont you have an H701? Another 2chs of power is in order and put that processor to use...you are missing out on their potential unless you can pull everything together..
Steve basically cut portions of the factory tweeter grills to allow more sound to pass through. Then we covered the grills with light grey speaker clothe to match the pillars. The pics look a little odd but they look pretty good in person. Once the speakers break in Steve's gonna be fine tuning the system to get everything in check. So he'll be using the 701 and wiring some things out of phase I believe.
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Originally Posted by BBOYSTEVIE
Congrats and enjoy the install. Yeah Metal..off axis like that is great for domers making them an easy kick install...I agree the grilles for the tweets could look a lil better, but I like it how they hide the tweets to not draw attention to them. I'm sure full active would help this system a lot as Manny said...

All in all awesome...I'm sure it'll sound great with a Steve Head tune! Enjoy!

Planning to compete?
I think he should move his tweets down and slap'm on those kicks the way Frankie has in his Mazda6, same component set and it looks like theres enough surface area left on them .....works awesome for him, and eliminates pathlength issues
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Originally Posted by BBOYSTEVIE
Congrats and enjoy the install. Yeah Metal..off axis like that is great for domers making them an easy kick install...I agree the grilles for the tweets could look a lil better, but I like it how they hide the tweets to not draw attention to them. I'm sure full active would help this system a lot as Manny said...

All in all awesome...I'm sure it'll sound great with a Steve Head tune! Enjoy!

Planning to compete?
Thanks! Steve basically recommended using these passive. He pretty much has the same setup in his Ram running passive. He feels that to get the domes working in this setup correcly that the passives should be used. I didn't argue with the guy since he's a World Champ
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Yeah I'd never question Steve Head!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This whole setup was all in thanks to listening to his Ram. His soundstage was UNREAL!!!
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Originally Posted by BBOYSTEVIE
Yeah Metal..off axis like that is great for domers making them an easy kick install...
What about we ***** whom would want to aim them? Would there be an improvement?
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Steve basically cut portions of the factory tweeter grills to allow more sound to pass through. Then we covered the grills with light grey speaker clothe to match the pillars. The pics look a little odd but they look pretty good in person. Once the speakers break in Steve's gonna be fine tuning the system to get everything in check. So he'll be using the 701 and wiring some things out of phase I believe.
Wiring the passenger side kick out of phase helps alot...but if hes using a 701 he can do it from the processor without touching the speaker.

The problem I foresee is that since you are using the passives both driver side tweet and driver side dome will get the same delay, although unequal in pathlengths. The tweeters need a greater delay than the domes.

Anyways i may be getting too technical for no reason, if you can use the time alignment to somewhat center the stage its all that matters- you should have adequate height as is...enjoy'm
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Metal.......no

When I ran domes I played with the aiming of them in the kicks and to me they did the best off axis....less localizable....wider soundstage...

As Manny will testify, a Mazda at a meet we went to had them off axis like this and sounded awesome.... He'll do well in comps next year. .
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Originally Posted by MannyNJ2k2max
Wiring the passenger side kick out of phase helps alot...but if hes using a 701 he can do it from the processor without touching the speaker.

The problem I foresee is that since you are using the passives both driver side tweet and driver side dome will get the same delay, although unequal in pathlengths. The tweeters need a greater delay than the domes.

Anyways i may be getting too technical for no reason, if you can use the time alignment to somewhat center the stage its all that matters- you should have adequate height as is...enjoy'm

Yeah, I'm pretty much leaving it up to the experts.
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Metal.......no

When I ran domes I played with the aiming of them in the kicks and to me they did the best off axis....less localizable....wider soundstage...

As Manny will testify, a Mazda at a meet we went to had them off axis like this and sounded awesome.... He'll do well in comps next year. .
Holy hell, you guys just made my life 1,000,000 times easier.
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yep and you got em. Jealous! Installed by Mr. Nutz himself!
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yep and you got em. Jealous! Installed by Mr. Nutz himself!
Actually I can thank you and some of the ECA guys for recommending him to me.
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Wow I feel good. Best help I could ever be is to get you to him!

Did you get to hear his Civic?

Metal...Yeah, dome mids, a hole saw, stock kick panels and 5 minutes can do wonders...ALMOST enough to get me to go back to them....
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Wow I feel good. Best help I could ever be is to get you to him!

Did you get to hear his Civic?

Metal...Yeah, dome mids, a hole saw, stock kick panels and 5 minutes can do wonders...ALMOST enough to get me to go back to them....
His Civic is actually taken apart and being worked on. I can only imagine what it sounds like after hearing his Ram.
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Holy hell, you guys just made my life 1,000,000 times easier.

Manny and I tried telling you use last week, rather than the cones you were originally planning.
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Manny and I tried telling you use last week, rather than the cones you were originally planning.
Come on now, I cna only absorb so much before my mind goes on total overload.
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Come on now, I cna only absorb so much before my mind goes on total overload.
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Just to let everyone know the Profis will be going up on ebay by the end of the week
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OMG. I think it looks awesome. I would love to see what they did to the rear deck to take care of rattles. If I had an extra $20 I would drive down today and take a look. But I am broke. That 10" looks nice and beefy. I want to go 3way so bad now. Dammit!!! Glad you are happy.
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OMG. I think it looks awesome. I would love to see what they did to the rear deck to take care of rattles. If I had an extra $20 I would drive down today and take a look. But I am broke. That 10" looks nice and beefy. I want to go 3way so bad now. Dammit!!! Glad you are happy.

Steve bottom mounted the sub to the rear deck. First he made a baffle and coated it with some type of spray coating. The he screwed it into the deck from the bottom then installed the sub. Then he matted the baffle and deck from underneath to seal everything up. After that he bolted the parcel board to the baffle to stiffen it up. Finally he made a new speaker grill to go on top. Here are some new pics of the sub:

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Very nice. That is exactly what I wanted to see.Giving me some good ides as well. I finally finished the deadener and the rear deck still flaps around like I didn't do anything. I recently replaced the center clip with a bolt and bolted that to the rear deck. It worked for that part. Now I think I will drill through the thicker part of the rear deck and bolt the center of the back flap to the metal. Maybe in 2 spots. Not sure yet. I think they did a great job. I want your stock Bose grill. Let me know how much you want. The next step after the bolts is going to be cutting the rear deck and installing a stock Bose grill. I really hope you still have it. Let me know.

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Very nice. That is exactly what I wanted to see.Giving me some good ides as well. I finally finished the deadener and the rear deck still flaps around like I didn't do anything. I recently replaced the center clip with a bolt and bolted that to the rear deck. It worked for that part. Now I think I will drill through the thicker part of the rear deck and bolt the center of the back flap to the metal. Maybe in 2 spots. Not sure yet. I think they did a great job. I want your stock Bose grill. Let me know how much you want. The next step after the bolts is going to be cutting the rear deck and installing a stock Bose grill. I really hope you still have it. Let me know.

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So youll be selling your 701 soon too huh?
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So youll be selling your 701 soon too huh?
That I'll be keeping
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I was just curious being that it serves no purpose in your setup. Using the passives theres no need/use for that unit....
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True I'd be going analog in that system myself. But thats one nice EQ you got there
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I'm gonna keep it for the EQ function but you never know I may go fully active in the future.
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pm me, are these the profi comps?



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