mendon99

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Eclipse-web.com recommends a 3.2 cubic foot box, tuned to 22Hz. is there any company that sells boxes like this? i dont feel like making one, im not a spectacular carpenter, and im lazy. id rather just buy one. anyone?

AscendantMax

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you a car audio forum member? you can get squeak or moe lester to build you one.

22 hz is a pretty low tuning

mendon99

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yeah i thought 22Hz was pretty low too... then again, that was for the 2005/6 versions of my sub, so maybe its different. im not even so much worried about that, as i am of having a big enough box.. this sub is suppose to be able to perform well in a small box, which kinda what i have currently (too small for this sub tho).. but id like a bigger one.

im not a car audio forum member... who is this now you speak of? where do they live? do they charge a lot?

Cant_Get_Ryte

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moe is on hiatus
I have one here that you can get pretty cheap. It is a total interior volume of
2.42 tuned down to 32 hz. Inside is sealed and resined allready. Im going to a higher tuning of 38 hz and will be building my new box this weekend.

Cant_Get_Ryte

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Mendon Click me firstlook to spend about 125 shipped for the enclosure from squeak. Look at 10 for the plans. These are the plans that moe did for me. MOE is an awesome builder with the attention to detail. Squeak is good, but Moe is .

As for that sub you can go ported for more output but if you look at the comparo between my sub and what you have
It did well in a ported enclosure of 1.75 cubes tuned to 30 hz. And in the smaller .70 cubic foot sealed it had higher spl

Click me Mendon

mendon99

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cant_get you got PM

mendon99

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what do you have ? dit: according to your cardomain you have the Kove.

yeah i saw that article. kinda sucks the eclipse suffered from its small cone

i clicked the first link, it wanted me to sign in, some other way to show me?

-Red-

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Give it a try in a sealed box. I think ported may be a bit much, and you may be compromising sound quality for SPL (unless that's what you're into ) I've had a pair of Eclipse aluminum 15s in a ported box, by the time the enclosure was built, it looked like I had a coffin in my trunk. Without a doubt, it was more abnoxious than just loud, but from the SQ side, it didn't do much for me. Another thing to consider is the weight you are adding. A well built ported box for this sub will either need to be either 1" MDF, or 3/4" MDF, if you go with the thiner one you'd want to brace it. Either way, let me know how it sound

mendon99

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ah, very true Red, and thanks. ill try a sealed for now, i would just like to hear it in a ported...ive always been a sealed guy..

i have a small 3/4" sealed single 12 box right now (not too small, but def not anywhere near 3 cubes). my old Eclipse aluminum sounded great in it.. im not sure how many cubes tho.. we'll see how the Ti sounds in it, ill def let you know. thanks again Red for some more audio bliss

AscendantMax

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yeah Moe is definately a kickass builder, but me thinks he's taking a break. he seems pretty busy lately. he built my last ported box and my current sealed one. the guy does great work

let us know how that beast sounds sealed

slickrick

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never port to 22hz for in car use my friend...unless you plan on watching strictly movies in your car.

mendon99

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i wasn't planning on it after the reading up more on the sub anways.. but why would Eclipse recommend that then?

slickrick

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who knows...have a link where it says that?

mendon99

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http://www.eclipse-web.com/sw9100/sw9122.html

unless, that means the lowest it can go or something? thats not even what it looks like, really. i wonder if eclipse put the wrong picture up... or maybe again its jsut teh newer model.

slickrick

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lol...I figured. thats the FS...not where you tune it too. thats just a T/S spec of the subwoofer. the lower the #, the easier for the sub to produce low end.

edit: and the VAS is not how big the box should be...another T/S spec in deicing what box size to build along with FS, QTS, etc.

AscendantMax

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yeah, the lowest i'd go is 28 Hz. any lower you'll start to sacrifice output.

mendon99

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damn, well then. i guess ill just try my box and see how it goes. thanks guys and sorry for my tuning-newbieism.

AscendantMax

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it's ok, better to ask then to dive into the dark

Cant_Get_Ryte

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http://www.caraudiomag.com/specialfe...e_subwoofer05/

try that one or do a search for either the Kove Armageddon Z on google or your woofer. They listed respectable output and specs with a .70 sealed box and a single cube i believe the other was. With you going up in box size it just seems that it would take a little less wattage and handle lower notes. Try what you have, unless for some reason you cant. But the sealed would definitely keep the weight to a minimal...at least in comparison and I would do one inch mdf, with a structural brace in it if you do 3/4.

Cant_Get_Ryte

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and personally to me the output is good on my sub at 32 hz, but I just wonder what tuning a little higher will do for output. I think if you do decide to go with a ported (And especially being a strictly sealed guy) that you will be happy with the size to output difference in the two at about 32hz. Box size would be kind of what you can afford to lose.

mendon99

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ok cool - i dont care about the size of the box, all i use the trunk for is the sub and amps.. i hardly ever carry things in it. but yeah ill def try the sealed, then if im feeling adventerous i may pick up your ported. ill let you know, thanks for all your help

AscendantMax

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higher tuning might be a little more peaky than a lower tune. tuning a bit higher will help with increase in spl, which seems like what you're aiming at . here's a graph Mike used to help me when we were deciding what box size (ported) to use.



the red line represents a 32 hz tuning, the green was my intended 28 hz, and the magenta shows 23 hz tuning. the higher tuning isn't the flatest response curve as shown by the graph. so, people generally tune high for more output, and lower for 'sq' purposes with a more flat response. the lower bass response is aided by the car's cabin, so too low of a tuning is not needed.

Cant_Get_Ryte

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exactly kind sir...you have me pegged hence why i was asking about that five inch monster port they recommended

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