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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 10:29 AM
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pretty much all of the speakers are blown . I believe the stock system is 2ohm. I'd like to use the factory amp if possible because I don't think I'll be able to find an amp small enough to fit in the stock location.

My Dad does not want an aftermarket headunit, he likes the stock one. The amp cannot go on the back of the seats/under the seats because it will interfere with the function of the truck. There might be the option of inside the center console or possibly under the middle seat in the middle row, but he said he does not want an amp anywhere other than the stock location, he would rather just replace the speakers with stockers.

Doesn't need to be high end stuff, budget is $350 (with some play), yes it is tight, but since he rarely drives it, he does not give a ish.

Old Mar 26, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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how big is the area where the stock amp is mounted?
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 10:39 AM
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Well if they are 2 ohm speakers in there without getting another set of 2 ohm speakers, or some with > 90db sensitivity its going to sound like anus. Good luck finding 2 ohm speakers < $350 for 2 sets.

Where is the stock amp located? and how big is it? Does this durango have that little opening in the trunk under on the floor? Don put a diamond amp in there for my old boss and it fit fine.
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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Efficency isnt gonna effect the load at all, regardless of them. Even at a 95+db hes gonna have some pretty poor power runnin em..
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Like Gordo asked...what space do we have to work with, I do have some amps available with a very small footprint.
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
Efficency isnt gonna effect the load at all, regardless of them. Even at a 95+db hes gonna have some pretty poor power runnin em..
Well thats true, but thats now why I suggested it. Main reason is say its making 30 watts at 2 ohms and the stock speakers are maybe 85db in the sensitivity department, at 4 ohms MAYBE he'll get 15-18 watts, with a speaker that is more sensitive like up to 94db it should be CLOSE to what stock was... but maybe my logic is flawed, bottom line in any case like this its going to sound bad.
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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First.. the difference between a 88-90 is minimal, further hed be hardpressed to find a 94+ set of coaxs and within the budget he has set. I can find a few, but the pricing wouldnt be there for him. Theres also other factors that would come into play, cant base everything off of one spec.
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by AscendantMax
how big is the area where the stock amp is mounted?
I'll get the measurements later today or tomorrow (it's in the front passenger kick panel though )

stock speakers are 6.5", I forgot to mention that tidbit.
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by nismos14
Well if they are 2 ohm speakers in there without getting another set of 2 ohm speakers, or some with > 90db sensitivity its going to sound like anus. Good luck finding 2 ohm speakers < $350 for 2 sets.

Where is the stock amp located? and how big is it? Does this durango have that little opening in the trunk under on the floor? Don put a diamond amp in there for my old boss and it fit fine.
A friend was getting me a set of Kappa 2Ohms at cost (<$200) but apparently his work dropped Infinity for Eclipse and since I was waiting for them to come off backorder, me = screwed


yes it has a storage compartment, however it is crammed full of tools, towing and recovery gear.
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:09 AM
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I'll get the measurements later today or tomorrow (it's in the front passenger kick panel though )

stock speakers are 6.5", I forgot to mention that tidbit.
in the kicks? that's pretty small of an area no? but get those measurements!
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
Like Gordo asked...what space do we have to work with, I do have some amps available with a very small footprint.
I'll work on getting that for you

I assume I would just throw some RCA ends on the wires going into the amp, right? or would I need a high/low? :-/



and Nismo, why not just find 2 ohm speakers?



honestly everyone was happy with the stock speakers
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by AscendantMax
in the kicks? that's pretty small of an area no? but get those measurements!

Same as the Acura TL.
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sticking with 2Ohm ,limits you to what you can use, especially crap like the infinitys.
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dunno, haven't been in either cars
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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sticking with 2Ohm ,limits you to what you can use, especially crap like the infinitys.
cant be as bad as the stock panasonic speakers i have...
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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And they are hard to find along with few options and high prices on 2ohm speakers.
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I know, weaksauce but

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/98-00...spagenameZWDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DODGE...spagenameZWDVW

I don't want to tear apart the interior until I'm done with the engine
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
sticking with 2Ohm ,limits you to what you can use, especially crap like the infinitys.
the people driving it don't know/don't care :-/

My Dad said he would rather just put stock speakers in, I just don't want to because I know my sister will blow them again in a few months
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damn, that's a lot bigger than the stock amp in the 6th gen. i think you'll find many options (from Don )
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its seems the most logical thing to do is buy some OEM speakers.
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JSutter
its seems the most logical thing to do is buy some OEM speakers.
know of a place I can buy them in a lot of 100?
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:38 AM
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damn, that's a lot bigger than the stock amp in the 6th gen. i think you'll find many options (from Don )
Does he have references?














Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by MrGone
I know, weaksauce but

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/98-00...spagenameZWDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DODGE...spagenameZWDVW

I don't want to tear apart the interior until I'm done with the engine

Theres a reason people are selling, AND a reason why people arent buyin em, even at those prices.

Go aftermarket and be done with it, youll thank me later.

Now go get those measurements !
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MrGone
Does he have references?














My refs own yours.
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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LOL that stock amp sucks. go aftermarket...
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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Don, at Paul's shop we just replaced the factory amp in a TL, in the kick itself. We used an Eclipse amp, it was tiiiiny. I think the model number was 1412 or something. He said it came with a flip out unit from a couple years back, but since the customer was using RCA's, that wasn't necessary.

Maybe a unit like that would work?
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
Theres a reason people are selling, AND a reason why people arent buyin em, even at those prices.

Go aftermarket and be done with it, youll thank me later.

Now go get those measurements !
no, those were just to try and give you an idea until i can get specifics
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by slickrick
LOL that stock amp sucks. go aftermarket...
Did you even read the first post?
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Originally Posted by djfrestyl
Don, at Paul's shop we just replaced the factory amp in a TL, in the kick itself. We used an Eclipse amp, it was tiiiiny. I think the model number was 1412 or something. He said it came with a flip out unit from a couple years back, but since the customer was using RCA's, that wasn't necessary.

Maybe a unit like that would work?
A friend of mine has one but it was stolen

it's tiny
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Originally Posted by djfrestyl
Don, at Paul's shop we just replaced the factory amp in a TL, in the kick itself. We used an Eclipse amp, it was tiiiiny. I think the model number was 1412 or something. He said it came with a flip out unit from a couple years back, but since the customer was using RCA's, that wasn't necessary.

Maybe a unit like that would work?

I know all about that TL, whos phone do you think kept ringing with questions?

Paul =

Also who ya think supplied him with all the wiring info?

The Eclipse amp is what I had in mind for Shaun.
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Did you even read the first post?
eh, not really. I was more or less referring to that dumb auction on ebay and how much that amp is "supposed" to cost.
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by djfrestyl
We used an Eclipse amp, it was tiiiiny. I think the model number was 1412 or something. He said it came with a flip out unit from a couple years back, but since the customer was using RCA's, that wasn't necessary.

Maybe a unit like that would work?

I have a handful of em in the workroom.
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
I know all about that TL, whos phone do you think kept ringing with questions?

Paul =

Also who ya think supplied him with all the wiring info?

The Eclipse amp is what I had in mind for Shaun.
Don needs to switch the U and W keys on his keyboard

can you buy those amps seperately?
Even better, will the factory wiring be sufficient? :x:
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
I have a handful of em in the workroom.
me love you long time :eek5:
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MrGone
Don needs to switch the U and W keys on his keyboard

can you buy those amps seperately?
Even better, will the factory wiring be sufficient? :x:

No he doesnt, he knows Exactly where they both are.

Nope and they havent been made/used since '02

Yes itll be fine.
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
I know all about that TL, whos phone do you think kept ringing with questions?

Paul =

Also who ya think supplied him with all the wiring info?

The Eclipse amp is what I had in mind for Shaun.
He's a funny one..

seems like we're on the same page
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Originally Posted by djfrestyl
He's a funny one..

seems like we're on the same page
yea so
metimes hes a lil slow, but eventually he makes it to the finish line...
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