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Old May 15, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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Quick question....how much RMS does the Bose produce on a 2k2 maxima?

I want to replace all the speakers on my 2k2, I know that the size of the speakers are 5.25 inch.

Would it be worth to put bigger speakers? or the stock amp doesnt have enough power for biggeer speakers anyways so it would be a waste of money.

I was thinking of either Alpine or Polk or maybe JBLs
not more than 250 for each pair of speakers. I went to the Crutchfield website and they have many options, I just dont know if they are a 100% right with the fitting issue

What would you guys suggest?

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You better either replace the head unit at the same time or get an amp. The bose runs at 1 ohm rated, 2 ohm measured so any speakers you put in there are not going to sound good IF you can even hear them.
Old May 15, 2006 | 06:11 PM
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You better either replace the head unit at the same time or get an amp. The bose runs at 1 ohm rated, 2 ohm measured so any speakers you put in there are not going to sound good IF you can even hear them.
wow, are you serious? the Bose system is THAT crappy?!?!

you cant just put different speakers? it wont work?

I knew the Crutchfield website had something wrong with it. When they ask what car you have, they ask you if you have the Bose or not. So I thought that those speakers listed should work fine with the Bose.

Is there another solution? there must be other speakers I could put instead of those crappy ones. In my 2k1 the Bose was sooo much better, I just added a subwoofer and the sound quality was fine. I dont know what the hell is wrong with the Bose on the 2k2
Old May 15, 2006 | 07:54 PM
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You better either replace the head unit at the same time or get an amp. The bose runs at 1 ohm rated, 2 ohm measured so any speakers you put in there are not going to sound good IF you can even hear them.
I thought BOSE was something crazy like .4?
Old May 15, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 2001SE
wow, are you serious? the Bose system is THAT crappy?!?!

you cant just put different speakers? it wont work?

I knew the Crutchfield website had something wrong with it. When they ask what car you have, they ask you if you have the Bose or not. So I thought that those speakers listed should work fine with the Bose.

Is there another solution? there must be other speakers I could put instead of those crappy ones. In my 2k1 the Bose was sooo much better, I just added a subwoofer and the sound quality was fine. I dont know what the hell is wrong with the Bose on the 2k2
Because they're amplified, you would essentially have to rewire the car if you wanted to change out just the speakers. If you want better sound, start at the HU.
Old May 15, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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I thought BOSE was something crazy like .4?
Most home audio is 8 ohm. Most car audio is 4 ohm. That means, 1 ohm is pretty crazy.
Old May 15, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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Because they're amplified, you would essentially have to rewire the car if you wanted to change out just the speakers. If you want better sound, start at the HU.
what do you mean rewire the car if I just wanted to change the speakers?

If I will change the headunit, its going to cost a lot of money with the speakers. I will probably need to pay a shop to install it as well, since I have no idea how to install audio in cars.
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Exactly what I said dude, if you want to change your speakers, you will have to run new speaker wire.

If you change JUST the head unit, then no it won't cost that much. A few extra dollars more than a normal head unit install because you would have to tap a few extra wires.

Once you make your decision (HU or speakers (or both)) we can better assist you with how to make it work right.
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Even 2/1 ohm isn't that crazy. Alot of oem automotive speakers are 2 ohm because they don't want you replacing the stock speakers. They'd rather have you come to them to pay XXX for stock replacements.
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Old May 17, 2006 | 04:29 AM
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The guy at the shop that I went to, told me that its gonna be more money to wire in new speakers especially if the system is running at 1ohm. I would be loosing a lot of power if we do it this way he said, its def not worth it.

I am gonna have to either stay with this crappy system or go all the way by getting a new HU and speakers. He told me I could do 6.5-6.75 at the fronts and the rear I could just do the stock size 5.25

Would it matter if I have different brand of speakers in the back? should I just go with the same size for the rears if anyways I am gonna buy an amp for all the speakers
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We already told you what he told you. Change the HU, or add an amp and get 4 speakers. Different brands will be fine.
Old May 17, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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yeah...sorry about that. I guess he explained it to me face to face so I caught up to what he was saying much quicker

I need to decide now with what HU I am going with. Something a tiny bit more than average for a decent price.

Any suggestions?
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What do you consider a decent price? 200? 300? 500?

Basically, provide a budget.
Old May 17, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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around 300 for an HU not more than 350. I want it to also have the Ipod aux connection if thats possible. should I go with Alpine? I heard they are very good with HUs

thanks for the help btw
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Are you looking for just an AUX input or Ipod controllability from the HU?
Old May 17, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by djfrestyl
Are you looking for just an AUX input or Ipod controllability from the HU?
I guess just an AUX input, because I am assuming controling the Ipod from the HU will be more money lol. I still have to buy front and rear speakrs + and amp + installation. this is going to be well over a 1000 dollars. I am just trying to minimze all the expenses. I probably dont want to go over the 300 for the HU.
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Originally Posted by 2001SE
I guess just an AUX input, because I am assuming controling the Ipod from the HU will be more money lol. I still have to buy front and rear speakrs + and amp + installation. this is going to be well over a 1000 dollars. I am just trying to minimze all the expenses. I probably dont want to go over the 300 for the HU.

Eclipse CD3000
Rainbow SLC components
Diamond 400.4

Bridge the amp to the fronts, get rears if you MUST, and run them off the HU

Come down to Jersey to visit Don for the products/installation. You will not regret it. You will also not be able to beat the price and quality of installation.
Old May 17, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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it woudlnt be a better idea to get everything online, and just get it installed somewhere?

I was thinking to bridge all the speakers to the amp, so I can have all 4 speakers working full power from the amp. The sound quality will be amazing too and powerfull. I just need a big amp.

What are those 3 things you listed there, all HU options?
what would you suggest for front speakers? Polk, Alpine, or Focal Polyglass?
the guy at the shop said the Focal polyglass are the nicest ones out of those three. I dont care going with 6.75 inches all around or 6.50 all around, 5.25 seem a little bit small.
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No. Online buying = no warranty except for crutchfield and maybe caraudio.

Why give power to speakers in the rear? You're the driver, you should get the good sound. The HU will provide enough power to the rear speakers.

The 3 items I listed are HU, then speakers, then amp.

Focal = very bright and harsh sounding speakers IMO.
6.5" all the way around is what you need.
Old May 17, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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If I buy a big amp I could just wire the speakers to the amp to get the most sound out of them with less distoration as well.
The HU doesnt have a lot of power to give anyways, maybe for 2 yeah its much better than all 4.

what for speakers do you suggest from what I listed up there? Alpine? Polk? JBL maybe?
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trust the DJ. I am running my rainbows off an amp and my rear fill off the h/u...it works very well. Get the SLC's or Germaniums but they are around 450IIRC. On a budget the SLC's are great. Do not consider any brand found at BB or CC when it comes to interior speakers. Rainbows own all of them hands down.
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what for speakers do you suggest from what I listed up there? Alpine? Polk? JBL maybe?
none of them. for the money you can't beat rainbow soundline components (SLC)

and for what BB or CC is going to do as far as instllation is concerned, you are much better off coming to Don.
Old May 17, 2006 | 11:17 PM
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whats BB or CC?
where can I find the rainbow soundline components?

If I am coming all the way from Boston to Don, he needs to do all the work in one day. Is there any way I can reach him to talk to him about prices?

thanks a lot guys
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Originally Posted by 2001SE
If I buy a big amp I could just wire the speakers to the amp to get the most sound out of them with less distoration as well.
The HU doesnt have a lot of power to give anyways, maybe for 2 yeah its much better than all 4.

what for speakers do you suggest from what I listed up there? Alpine? Polk? JBL maybe?

Man you really need to learn some more about car audio, or suck it up and take the trip from boston to NJ and let it be done right by someone who knows what their doing and comes HIGHLY recommended by any of us who have met/worked/are friends with Don.

Amp the fronts with the 400.4 bridged to them, run the rears off the head unit it will provide more than enough juice which has been said numerous times already. The cd3000 will be more than adequate for ANYTHING you want to accomplish. And everything will come in at about ~$900 - $1k.
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Originally Posted by 2001SE
whats BB or CC?
where can I find the rainbow soundline components?

If I am coming all the way from Boston to Don, he needs to do all the work in one day. Is there any way I can reach him to talk to him about prices?

thanks a lot guys
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Don is one of two people in all of the US that carries Rainbow products.
The install can be done in one day.
732-572-1969 is his phone number..if he doesn't pick up, leave a message and be patient, he has a lot on his plate right now.
Old May 18, 2006 | 07:50 AM
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just parts 900-1k right?

wouldnt I get a little bit more distortion if I hook up the rears to the HU rather than an amp? Dont the speakers sound much better when they are connected to an amp?

The crappy thing is if I do it in NJ, I will have to drive down there if something happenes to the system.

I'll give him a call later on today to see what kind of price he can give me.
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just parts 900-1k right?

wouldnt I get a little bit more distortion if I hook up the rears to the HU rather than an amp? Dont the speakers sound much better when they are connected to an amp?

The crappy thing is if I do it in NJ, I will have to drive down there if something happenes to the system.

I'll give him a call later on today to see what kind of price he can give me.
Ya thats parts. Might be less or a lil bit more. You won't get much more disortion from the rears as long as you just get a decent basic speaker. Nothing fancy. Nothing wrong with a road trip here and there People have come from further away to have Don work on their cars.
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I know for a fact that you can fit 6.5s in all 4 doors without any problems..All you have to do is remove the little white spacer that is in there, it pops right off as soon as you unscrew it. And you wouldn't necessarily have to run new wires for the speakers. I went on maxima.theowensfamily.com and looked at the wiring diagram of the plug that goes into the bose amp. I then just cut the wires going into the bose amp, and cut the corresponding wires coming out of the bose amp twisted and soldered them everything sounds great. I added an amp for the speakers and that was really simple too I just grabbed the wires comin out of the bose amp, and plugged them into the new amp for my speakers. And then I spliced a pair of RCA jacks, hooked them up to the pre outs on my amp, ran the rcas into the bose amp, so I still have the bose sub working and my speakers.
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