I'm looking at both the AA assassin 8 and ID8. They will be getting 200-300w IB. Which is recommended?

 

ID8 is the v.3 i think

 

ibparagentersblahblahblah...

 

I am not sure the Assassins are meant for IB? The information I got fro SSA i sthey are made for smaller ported enclosures.

looks like the ID sub would be your best choice.

 

AA's will do great output wise and much better than the ID, however the ID may have the edge as far as SQ, not by enough for me to take the ID over the AA though.

 

can either really handle 250+ IB?

 

awwwwwwww new problem.. the AA only comes in dual 4, so the most i could run to it is around 200 watts i guess. the ID has a dual 2 that I could give just under 300 either bridged or running both channels at 2 ohms. would the assassin still be better in this situation? This is a pretty lightweight setup, but I don't want it to be too terribly quiet....

 

Then mix it up a bit ... Dyn MW182s.

 

When did you try the new Assassins?

 

I wonder what kind of budget he has to work with.

 

The ID can't even take the 200 so you're prob better off with the AA still.

 

New AA specs are very similar to the old ones, my assumption is that it will perform much the same, the soft parts are similar to the old as well, so the cone control/stiffness should be very close.

 

I can talk with the builder this week and make sure your assumptions are correct. I think they are almost 100% brand new design wise.

 

Theyre not all that pricey..

 

Yea find out plz.

 

Naw, I didn't mean it that way. Just curious so we can give him more options.

 

Will do. I will write it on the schedule. I will write it next to urination whilst opening the new Rainbow box.


Don, I hope you didn't send them to Bronson.

 

Dunno, whatever your paypal addy is..

 

OK, I will check to see what is on there. Either way, wifey works in Bronson. I will get them.

 

I could just give you tracking info too.

 

That would be cool, as both addresses are listed
I need to delete the old one. I will be up for a bit. send it over if you would please.

 

On the way, its going to Gainesville.

 

Oh hell yeah. I am looking forward to it. I will need to concentrate extra hard in class as this delivery has me very preoccupied.

 

Looks like the new AA's are completely different, saw the specs again today and looks much different, foam surround < old style rubber surround.

I would still say they are worth a shot though

 

I would like to keep it close to 100 or so...

 

what about the ID 10" in a sealed box? Would that, running up to 280 watts or so, be better than the 8" assassin IB getting 200? I know its a totally different setup and would have different characteristics because of the box but any guess on how they would compare overall?

 

The 10 would have cone advantage as well as higher power handling due to the enclosure. Two totally different approaches. Now putting the 10 IB would be sweet too if you don't want an enclosure. If your into cutting and making a new rear deck, the 2-8" Assassin's would own. The single 10 would require no cutting though.

 

Ef it, two AA 10's IB ftmfw.

 

Hah, as much as I like that idea, I'm not thinking Ill cut it. would that single 10 really fit without cutting? How high would I have to build it up to make it fit? going with a 10 allows so many more sub options that that sounds really appealing but I don't see how it would fit

 

Oh hell yeah!!!!

 

Is your car Bose or non-Bose?

 

bose

10 char....

 

Awesome. If you wanted to go with a single 8", remove the plate from the rear deck and detach the Bose subwoofer from the plate. From there it is just a matter of mounting the sub to that plate. If you want to, which I recommend, make a 1/2" baffle/ring from MDF and screw that to the plate then the sub to the baffle/ring. The MDF will reduce coloration. To further reduce excessive vibrations, deaden the rear deck, the plate, and the baffle/ring. I was able to get the best results from this.

If you want to do a single 10", you will not use the stock plate, instead you will need to make a baffle for the under side of the rear deck. Depending on how you mount the sub (top/bottom of the baffle you make) will narrow your search for an acceptable driver as you will need to take into account the depth after mounting with regards to the trunk tension bars. A bit more work for this method, but neither will require you cutting into your rear deck.

In regards to the install in general, when installing a driver in an IB application, you will need to understand that it is best for you to eliminate the rear wave from the driver. Do your best, I know it is not 100% possible in our cars, to seal the rear deck and keep your seats up during playback. If you decide to see if it will be louder with the seats down, the driver will see a massive increase in its enclosure and will typically unload, meaning that the cone will move uncontrollably and over excursion will occur damaging the driver and possibly your amp.

If you search around you can find the thread myself and kpr10is did for a forum member with a CDT 8", then an ID 8", and finally ended up with a DLS OA10 mounted under the rear deck by AudioNutz. He chose the 10 b/c the 8"s didn't provide enough output. SC2K1 is his SN.

 

Wow, thanks for the info. I think I had read that thread about undermounting the 10, but I totally forgot and didn't see how it could work any other way. up until this point i had been thinking i'd just screw it and go with the AA 8" for simplicity. Now its between the AA 10, ID 10, and possibly that DLS mentioned depending on the price, (although I'm sure its over what I'm looking at so far) because the extra output from a 10 would sure be nice....

any clear winners between those subs?

 

Output AA, ID vs DLS in SQ is gonna be close, I'd think the OA would give you the best blend of SQ and loudness.

 

know if don carries the oa?

 

Thats where I got'em.

 

for what price?

 

Don't remember the price, you're going to have to ask da man himself.

 

gotcha. thanks.