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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 11:55 PM
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Enclosed vs Non-enclosed Sub box

Whats better for maximas?
Old Jun 3, 2010 | 04:15 AM
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Whats better for maximas?
Do you mean a sealed box or a ported box? It all depends on the sub woofers and the type of music you listen to.
Old Jun 3, 2010 | 04:19 PM
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he could mean free air. I usually stay away from posts like this.
Old Jun 3, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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why stay away? he asked a legit question.

anyhow, OP can you please elaborate on what you mean by enclosed and non-enclosed? Do you mean ported and sealed like CustomLowz mentioned?
Old Jun 3, 2010 | 08:09 PM
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i listen to rap, rock, techno and some country

and i mean where the subs are fully inside the box or where they are just inserted into the box

just wanted to know because i heard that for sedans one sounds better then the other and i was just wondering which one that was so i could get some

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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 03:34 AM
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fully inside = bandpass
Old Jun 4, 2010 | 12:35 PM
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BANDPASS BOX



SEALED BOX


PORTED BOX


REVERSE MOUNT

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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 12:54 PM
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Is that last picture an isobaric pair?
Old Jun 4, 2010 | 03:07 PM
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ya my friend was going to sell me some rockford P1s in a box like the one at the top and a 2000 watt amp for $200, i was wondering if i should get it or not.... would you guys?
Old Jun 4, 2010 | 06:34 PM
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ya my friend was going to sell me some rockford P1s in a box like the one at the top and a 2000 watt amp for $200, i was wondering if i should get it or not.... would you guys?
I would not...
Old Jun 4, 2010 | 11:37 PM
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why not?
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 08:32 AM
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IIRC, 2000watts will blow those speakers up faster than (insert quote).
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 11:42 AM
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It's not a Maxima question, it's a driver question. Either pick a driver, and build the correct box for it, or choose a box design, and purchase the correct driver for it.
The box and driver combination doesn't know or care what vehicle it's installed in.
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 01:18 PM
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Is that last picture an isobaric pair?
nah, it's just a sub that's been invert-mounted.
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mejiseike
ya my friend was going to sell me some rockford P1s in a box like the one at the top and a 2000 watt amp for $200, i was wondering if i should get it or not.... would you guys?
i doubt the amp truely puts out an honest 2000w. but for 200 bucks, it'll give you some bass if you're not too worried about musical clarity and what-not.
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 01:57 PM
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I know it's "only" 200 bucks, and must be your first sound system, but what are you trying to accomplish? You want to sound crystal clear like a music hall, or you want to beat the block down with earth shattering bass? Or a combination of the 2? I doubt that setup will accomplish either, but if you're on a strict budget and just want some bump in your ride then go ahead. May I ask what kind of amp it is?
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 11:51 PM
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i want clarity, with some bump, if i want it to. i already have 4 polk audio db651 and a pretty nice pioneer deck but im just missing the subs.

@mralwaiz - its some crapy amp, american something, it would have to be a temporary amp, im just wondering about the box and subs mostly
Old Jun 6, 2010 | 12:30 AM
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most prefab bandpass boxes have a very narrow bandwidth, but they can get a sub fairly loud. but you really can't beat that price though...200 bucks for two subs and an enclosure.
Old Jun 6, 2010 | 12:48 AM
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Yea well the p1s are some nice subs, you should be ok with the box, depending on the amp... since its temporary any way id say go for it. Like ascendantmax said that's a great price for a complete system, all you're missing is wires.
Old Jun 6, 2010 | 06:35 AM
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p1s = nice? in what country?
Old Jun 6, 2010 | 10:15 AM
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\They're decent budget subs. I've ran the older RF Punch Z's back in the day...similar to their current p1 lines. Now are they SQ oriented subs like my DLS? Nope. But they can add some lowend for someone looking for a cheap addition to their audio.
Old Jun 7, 2010 | 12:43 AM
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well then ill just buy it, they do sound nice but just a little over powering but my speakers and deck are better then his, and hes going to give me the wiring to it but i just need the speaker wire cuz his car is a lot smaller (mazda protege5)
Old Jun 7, 2010 | 04:43 PM
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I used to run 2 p1 12's. They sounded decent for a first system. But not **** compared to what I have now, and its not even that much compared to what some of the guys here run
Old Jun 11, 2010 | 08:55 PM
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soooo....... noone answeared the question now im curious. seriously what difference in ported box,band pass box, and enclosed box? which is best for a kicker l5 12 inci solo baric? for rock and rap. really like deep bass rather then loud bass.
Old Jun 11, 2010 | 09:03 PM
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@ Travis, For a kicker solobaric, Ive always seen em in large ported boxes, And them slam pretty good in them... I can't get all the proper cubic feet dimensions though. Im sure its on google. As far as the difference between boxes go, i think its how it lets the sub "breathe"(somebodys gonna flame me for that) but i dont know what youd call it. One of the audio guys wil have to chime in
Old Jun 11, 2010 | 09:24 PM
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soooo....... noone answeared the question now im curious. seriously what difference in ported box,band pass box, and enclosed box? which is best for a kicker l5 12 inci solo baric? for rock and rap. really like deep bass rather then loud bass.
ported box utilizes the back wave of the sub to help increase total output. they're generally much louder than a sealed box...and tonal characteristics can be adjusted by the port's tuning frequency.

sealed boxes are the easiest to build IMO...and can yield the most accurate bass. you'll sacrifice some output for some accuracy.

bandpass boxes are a combination of the two boxes. it contains a sealed chamber and a ported chamber. they can be very efficient in output, but designing and constructing them can be tricky. most prefab bandpass boxes are good for output...but sucks in terms of a wide frequency response. this isn't saying that all bandpass boxes are bad...they can sound good when designed and built right.

i would go ported for your kicker L5, tuned low if you really want that deep bass. check with kicker to see their recommended air space for a ported enclosure, and have one built to spec.
Old Jun 11, 2010 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AscendantMax
ported box utilizes the back wave of the sub to help increase total output. they're generally much louder than a sealed box...and tonal characteristics can be adjusted by the port's tuning frequency.

sealed boxes are the easiest to build IMO...and can yield the most accurate bass. you'll sacrifice some output for some accuracy.

bandpass boxes are a combination of the two boxes. it contains a sealed chamber and a ported chamber. they can be very efficient in output, but designing and constructing them can be tricky. most prefab bandpass boxes are good for output...but sucks in terms of a wide frequency response. this isn't saying that all bandpass boxes are bad...they can sound good when designed and built right.

i would go ported for your kicker L5, tuned low if you really want that deep bass. check with kicker to see their recommended air space for a ported enclosure, and have one built to spec.

thanks man makes a lot of sense i understand now. yea i have a bandpass box in my closet with 2 12 sonys xlpods and its really loud but not to clear. i want to get rid of my kicker and buy two twelves for my bandpass but not sure whats some good subs for that box.
Old Jun 24, 2010 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by AscendantMax
ported box utilizes the back wave of the sub to help increase total output. they're generally much louder than a sealed box...and tonal characteristics can be adjusted by the port's tuning frequency.

sealed boxes are the easiest to build IMO...and can yield the most accurate bass. you'll sacrifice some output for some accuracy.

bandpass boxes are a combination of the two boxes. it contains a sealed chamber and a ported chamber. they can be very efficient in output, but designing and constructing them can be tricky. most prefab bandpass boxes are good for output...but sucks in terms of a wide frequency response. this isn't saying that all bandpass boxes are bad...they can sound good when designed and built right.

i would go ported for your kicker L5, tuned low if you really want that deep bass. check with kicker to see their recommended air space for a ported enclosure, and have one built to spec.
Ported boxes are typically bigger than sealed boxes. And I definitely agree that sealed boxes have better accuracy than most.

Someone mentioned 2000 watt amp for 200 ducks. Yeah I am sure that is not RMS or continuos wattage rather Peak or Max watts. I would try to stay clear from them but that's me.
Old Jun 27, 2010 | 02:21 PM
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Free air, inside cabin is the best way to go
Old Jun 28, 2010 | 05:42 AM
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Free air, inside cabin is the best way to go
For space wise yes but free air frequency range isn't as good as sealed or ported application typically! Of course this is from what I remember about free airs. lol I am sure with technology you never know nowadays!
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