I'm currently in the market to upgrade my speakers. I like the MB Quart 218.61Q series. I was wondering if anyone had any experiences with these or any other MB Quarts?

 

I have them in my car. I think there great...they tend to work best off axis. You might wanna look into the qsd's there real nice real deep and real smooth even more so than the reg q's. Also most tend to say they work best runing all active meaning not getting the passives that come with the set tends to be the best.

 

I have to admit that I don't know much about car audio thus I'm not sure what running off axis means or the speakers running active. Can you familiarize a audiophile newbie like me? I'm looking for a clean sounding system with percise rich base. I thought the Q's were good but from what I gather the QSD are even better. How much do they run a pair by the way?

 

Basically running of axis is anything where the tweet is not mounted right over the mid. But really with the q's and qsd's they like to be played with great distance between them . Such as mid in the kick and tweet in the piller.

By the way if you are putting them in the stock door locations...well i woun't there deserve alot more.

All active means not runing passive x overs. Using an active x over.

That simplified enough?

Bass will come from a sub or subs. You can run these down to 35 hz (real low) but I would use a sub with them.

Cost...well the q's as a set with x overs are $850..The qsd's as a set with x over are $1500.

Now if you go with my idea of not using the passive x over then the cost would be for the q's:$229 per mid and for both tweets:$350 as for the qsd's: the mids are 259 per driver and the tweets are $500pr.

Hope this helps..Go check um out at mbquart.com

 

Well, with my experience, I dont care for MB's as much as some other great brands out there. They're good speakers, but metal dome tweeters can be on the harsh side to me, especially if played loud. CDT makes a great speaker for around the same price as most MB's and have a very nice sounding silk dome tweeter, and for the cost of the high end MB's There are brands out there like Dynaudio and Focal that are beutiful sounding speakers and usually take less tweaking with an EQ to sound good. Biggest issue with trying to go with those brands is only a few places sell them, unlike MB that has a store in just about every town that sells them.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by max'n out


Basically running of axis is anything where the tweet is not mounted right over the mid. But really with the q's and qsd's they like to be played with great distance between them . Such as mid in the kick and tweet in the piller.

Jayson, correct me where I'm wrong but I always took off axis to mean any speaker that was not pointed at the listener was playing off axis, thus most every speaker in a car environment needs to have focus put on off axis response. Typically home audio speakers don't worry nearly so much about off axis since the speakers are pointed directionally toward the audience so on axis response is the most important there. Let me know where I've misunderstood though.

By the way if you are putting them in the stock door locations...well i woun't there deserve alot more.


Are the MB Quarts you refer to too large or deep for the stock door locations or is there some other reason you would put them elsewhere. I'm assuming you are referring to a kick panel enclosure for them with more air space than the door would give even if you sealed it off. I just had Dynamat coated on my doors and installed my Boston Pros there without an enclosure.

 

Off axis is when any driver is not pointed directly at the listener. In kicks would be on axis, in the doors off axis. in a home enviroment, sitting directly in front of the speakers pointing then directly at the listener would be on, sitting off to the side of the room would be off axis. As far as mounting them in the doors, Thats where mine are, and they do wonderfully. In fact many high end systems have drivers mounted in the stock locations, and they do fine.

 

Your comments are either out of date or uneducated. You say you don't like mb quart tweets cuz they have a metel dome. But are you aware that they have a butyl(sp) rubber surround to dampen that. Also you suggest focal...well again they use a metel dome.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by srbarnes4ever

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Are the MB Quarts you refer to too large or deep for the stock door locations or is there some other reason you would put them elsewhere. I'm assuming you are referring to a kick panel enclosure for them with more air space than the door would give even if you sealed it off. I just had Dynamat coated on my doors and installed my Boston Pros there without an enclosure.

Not to large or deep to be put in the stock location. The q's&qsd's and focal utopias and anything high end like that deserve more than to be stuck in the stock location choosen by the factory cuz it was they only unused room. Unless of course you drive a older bmw that had kick enclosures.

I say not to mount them in the stock location cuz in most likelyness you woun't be gettting the true value out of them. The derseve to be played in an upgraded setup. Now what kind of setup is up to the listener/desinger. Could be kicks,moded doors, dash...anything. Airspace is a consideration along with aiming.

On another note mb quart says there componets don't like 100% sealed enclosures.

 

Thanks for the info guys. I feel more informed already! Really appreciate it.

I found a set of MB Quart QM218.61 Component Speakers on ebay for 300 dollars. Used on a show car but supposedly only one hour of play time before uninstalled. Here are the specs.

Tweeter: 1" (25mm) Titanium dome
Woofer: 6½" (160mm) Polypropylene Cone
Crossover: 18 dB/Octave
Impedance: 4 Ohms (nominal)
Freq. Response: 48Hz to 32,000Hz
Power Range: 90watts (rms.) to 170watts
Sensitivity: 86dB (1 watt, 1 meter)
Grills and Mounting hardware

Is this a good deal?

I also found a place online that sells focal and dynaudio.
https://www.onlinecarstereo.com Not sure how they're prices compare to others.

 

My coments are neither uneducated or outdated. And yes I am aware of the fact that Focal uses a metal dome as well. I use MB's in some installations to this day. Compaired to some other brands, they are bright to me. As far as Focals tweets, while they are metal, they are not as bright (at least in the Utopia line) as the MBs, but still a bit forward for my tastes. Thats why I went with the Dyns. Again, I never said that MBs were crap, I said that in my opinion they are too bright. I'm glad that you've won some comps with the MBs, but unfortunately you seem to think that just becuase you use them, they are the best. But, unfortunately, your knowlege of Brands seems to be as flawed as your knowlege of terms in the audio field anyway, so I should just let you be. Afer all you have won some comps, and since I dont compete, I must not know as much as you, right?

 

First of all I did not say there where the best. Second I don't think the pre made quarts or focals are the best.

The way you phrased it :"They're good speakers, but metal dome tweeters can be on the harsh side to me, especially if played loud". Then saying : "here are brands out there like Dynaudio and Focal that are beutiful sounding speakers" implys that you like focal cuz they don't have a metel dome...maybe thats not what you ment but that is the way I took it which is what struck me as odd since they do use a metel dome.

I don't know where you got this thing about me knowing and you not cuz of comps, what is your problem? I din't make any personal attacks on you. The way you phrased implys some things, that are odd. Thats the prob with the internet not always does everybodys' true meaning come accross. Deal with it.

By the way I would agree that the utopia tweets are a little smoother than that of the basic q's but the qsd's are prob just as smooth as the utopias.

 

Thats a great deal. Though I would ask for the pics of them in the comp car to varifi that they where in a comp car. Also might want to ask why they where pulled after "1 hour". Quart does not warrenty stuff sold online. And I may be wrong but I don't think focal or dyn does either. So if you buy them "new" the only warrenty you could get would be from the people selling them. Not a big deal but somthing I thought you should know.

 

Thats why I got deffensive. You start talking to me like I'm a moron that doesnt know what he's talking about. may not have been what you ment but thats the way it sounded.

 

I'm sorry I din't know how else to phrase it. Really they seemed out of date cuz at one point quarts where really sharp. But not near near near as much now. So it seemed out of date. Sorry.

 

no it is not a good deal. Anton (2001soundspeed ? sells a set for smthg like 110-120