Rainbows vs MBquarts vs Focal
03-19-2002, 02:53 PM
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Rainbows vs MBquarts vs Focal
Hey guys!
We are making test comparison, for the most "natural" and "enjoyable to listen" sound, what do you think will win:
Midranges and tweeters combo:
Rainbow Pro series
MB Quart Q series
Focal Utopia series
Try to make a bet.
I would really enjoy your answers
THANX A LOT!!!
We are making test comparison, for the most "natural" and "enjoyable to listen" sound, what do you think will win:
Midranges and tweeters combo:
Rainbow Pro series
MB Quart Q series
Focal Utopia series
Try to make a bet.
I would really enjoy your answers
THANX A LOT!!!
03-19-2002, 03:25 PM
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Re: Rainbows vs MBquarts vs Focal
Originally posted by Mikesburn
Hey guys!
We are making test comparison, for the most "natural" and "enjoyable to listen" sound, what do you think will win:
Midranges and tweeters combo:
Rainbow Pro series
MB Quart Q series
Focal Utopia series
Try to make a bet.
I would really enjoy your answers
THANX A LOT!!!
Hey guys!
We are making test comparison, for the most "natural" and "enjoyable to listen" sound, what do you think will win:
Midranges and tweeters combo:
Rainbow Pro series
MB Quart Q series
Focal Utopia series
Try to make a bet.
I would really enjoy your answers
THANX A LOT!!!
03-20-2002, 01:57 AM
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Focal Utopia/Polykevlar are not on par with Rainbow Pro set. Out of all you recomendations I wonder how many of you actually listened to a Pro set in a good install. Focals are nice speakers but their tweeters and xovers are horrible. Rainbow Pro's have the same detail Foclal gives you but it is not harsh or sibilant at higher volumes. Unless you use Focal Pk/Utopia with their home TRL tweeter and upgraded xovers they are no match for Rainbow Pro's. As far as MB Quart goes, any of their products (xept QSD) should be destroyed or burned.
The only competition that was mentioned was Dynaudio drivers. To me they sound as good. Problems arise when you try to use their midranges to create soundstage. They are home speakers, they dont aim...ooops.
The only competition that was mentioned was Dynaudio drivers. To me they sound as good. Problems arise when you try to use their midranges to create soundstage. They are home speakers, they dont aim...ooops.
03-20-2002, 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by retrodrive
Focal Utopia/Polykevlar are not on par with Rainbow Pro set. Out of all you recomendations I wonder how many of you actually listened to a Pro set in a good install. Focals are nice speakers but their tweeters and xovers are horrible. Rainbow Pro's have the same detail Foclal gives you but it is not harsh or sibilant at higher volumes. Unless you use Focal Pk/Utopia with their home TRL tweeter and upgraded xovers they are no match for Rainbow Pro's. As far as MB Quart goes, any of their products (xept QSD) should be destroyed or burned.
The only competition that was mentioned was Dynaudio drivers. To me they sound as good. Problems arise when you try to use their midranges to create soundstage. They are home speakers, they dont aim...ooops.
Focal Utopia/Polykevlar are not on par with Rainbow Pro set. Out of all you recomendations I wonder how many of you actually listened to a Pro set in a good install. Focals are nice speakers but their tweeters and xovers are horrible. Rainbow Pro's have the same detail Foclal gives you but it is not harsh or sibilant at higher volumes. Unless you use Focal Pk/Utopia with their home TRL tweeter and upgraded xovers they are no match for Rainbow Pro's. As far as MB Quart goes, any of their products (xept QSD) should be destroyed or burned.
The only competition that was mentioned was Dynaudio drivers. To me they sound as good. Problems arise when you try to use their midranges to create soundstage. They are home speakers, they dont aim...ooops.
Wow, you speak exactly like I do!!!
Good job.
I expect Rainbows to win anyways. Of course Dynaudio is the competitor, but freeking angle, you're right, doesn't work in the car as good.
Right now I cannot listen to MB quarts at all, so freekin dry and harsh, only on high levels though.
Thanx for answering!!!
03-20-2002, 11:22 AM
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For a better comparison, you should compare specific sizes, product lines, and price. I mean is paying 3 times as much for a different brand name worth 5%-10% better performance? It would be a more accurate comparison to judge 6 1/2 component sets under say $450-$500. Rainbow makes some serious speakers but some are just unGodly as far as price is concerned. I mean, are they worth THAT MUCH more or are YOU willing to pay THAT MUCH more?
03-20-2002, 11:31 AM
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You are probably talking about Rainbow Refference set $7000 retail? I am not even bring those into conversation though. Its just another level of speakers. Considering that Rainbow Pro's cost much less then Focal Utopias or MBQ QSDs, I think you get one heluva bargain.
03-21-2002, 12:12 AM
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or..how about Kraco....im sure someone's used thoes before...they used to be sold a Grand auto...orange foam surrounds on the 6x9"s..square midranges..and tweeters...5 ounce magnet..thoes..would dominate dynaaudio's too...but seriously..i belive that if the installation of these components is done properly (proper enclousres...aiming of the tweeter as well as location) and the proper amplifier is used...these 3 brands will totally blow your mind..unless your are going into pure competition.
03-21-2002, 01:25 PM
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Depends on: What car they go in, What size they are (6.5 or less), in the kicks, doors or dash, custom mount or not, sealed or infinte baffle, power, amps, processing, or just out of box?
But out of box i'd take the qsd's. tuned; Qsd mid 6.5, and focal utopia tweet, in the kick, infinite baffle metel removed and recesed, of of a Zapco amp of course
. And the new Zapco Digital piece.
But out of box i'd take the qsd's. tuned; Qsd mid 6.5, and focal utopia tweet, in the kick, infinite baffle metel removed and recesed, of of a Zapco amp of course
. And the new Zapco Digital piece.
03-22-2002, 02:43 PM
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Originally posted by retrodrive
Oh I like that Zapco, I just wanna get the IDONE to be consistent. That Zapco piece is awesome! They know their $hit as far as processors go!
Oh I like that Zapco, I just wanna get the IDONE to be consistent. That Zapco piece is awesome! They know their $hit as far as processors go!
I wish you much much, Good luck with getting an id one.
03-22-2002, 08:16 PM
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Thx 
...waiting
tn-45is supposed to be the harshest one of them all. The tn-51 is better but still harsh. Their best tweeters are TLR but they cost a lot of cash. Probably your tn-45 are attenuated 2 or 4 db's and you listened to tn-51with all the dbs going to it. Thus, it may seemed harsher. Usually it is a bit softer then tn45.
...waitingtn-45is supposed to be the harshest one of them all. The tn-51 is better but still harsh. Their best tweeters are TLR but they cost a lot of cash. Probably your tn-45 are attenuated 2 or 4 db's and you listened to tn-51with all the dbs going to it. Thus, it may seemed harsher. Usually it is a bit softer then tn45.
03-23-2002, 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
guys you all talking high-end speakers, but what about the stuff that you see in stores..like Rockford Fosgate components or whatever they carry in Best Buy. Anyone has those?
guys you all talking high-end speakers, but what about the stuff that you see in stores..like Rockford Fosgate components or whatever they carry in Best Buy. Anyone has those?
03-23-2002, 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by max'n out
These are in stores too, just usally have to specail order them. If you'd like I'm sure there could be another purley up to argument post, about mid level brands too. But keep in mind it's all very up to personal opinion and setup. Go out listen to anything you can find(in car, I suggest comp shows) and come up with your own opinion with alot of different setups and see what you think.
These are in stores too, just usally have to specail order them. If you'd like I'm sure there could be another purley up to argument post, about mid level brands too. But keep in mind it's all very up to personal opinion and setup. Go out listen to anything you can find(in car, I suggest comp shows) and come up with your own opinion with alot of different setups and see what you think.
03-23-2002, 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by max'n out
hese are in stores too, just usally have to specail order them. If you'd like I'm sure there could be another purley up to argument post, about mid level brands too. But keep in mind it's all very up to personal opinion and setup. Go out listen to anything you can find(in car, I suggest comp shows) and come up with your own opinion with alot of different setups and see what you think.
hese are in stores too, just usally have to specail order them. If you'd like I'm sure there could be another purley up to argument post, about mid level brands too. But keep in mind it's all very up to personal opinion and setup. Go out listen to anything you can find(in car, I suggest comp shows) and come up with your own opinion with alot of different setups and see what you think.
03-24-2002, 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
exactly-where do you find that stuff? If I dont know anyone who has an MB Quart in their car..
exactly-where do you find that stuff? If I dont know anyone who has an MB Quart in their car..
03-24-2002, 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
guys you all talking high-end speakers, but what about the stuff that you see in stores..like Rockford Fosgate components or whatever they carry in Best Buy. Anyone has those?
guys you all talking high-end speakers, but what about the stuff that you see in stores..like Rockford Fosgate components or whatever they carry in Best Buy. Anyone has those?
Although, many of those speakers sound pretty good for general use. Best of all these guys I consider Kenwood Exelones. They are just 200 bucks but sound pretty musical, other then that Rainbows Pro definately, the stuff we're talking about here!
They win all the comps, even when they compete with Utopia, which I also respect.
03-24-2002, 03:40 PM
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I would suggest going to MB Quart's website, as well as other websites and use the dealer find function at each one to find a dealer that lives in your area.
Here are just a few sites for you:
MB Quart Dealer Locator
http://www.mbquart.com/dealer.htm
Focal Dealer Locator
http://www.focal-america.com/locator/main.asp
Rockford Fosgate Dealer Locator
http://rockets2.rockfordcorp.com/is-...SDealerLocator
Rainbow
http://www.rainbow-car-audio.com/home/
Diamond Audio Dealer Locator
http://www.diamondaudio.com/car/
Infinity Dealer Locator
http://208.246.13.150/infinitycar/
Boston Acoustics Dealer Locator
http://www.bostonacoustics.com/Dealers.asp
A/D/S Dealer Locator
http://www.adst.com/pages/mtemplate.html
Edit.. one link was messed up.. I fixed it and copied into the FAQ sticky up top. thanks for the info.
Here are just a few sites for you:
MB Quart Dealer Locator
http://www.mbquart.com/dealer.htm
Focal Dealer Locator
http://www.focal-america.com/locator/main.asp
Rockford Fosgate Dealer Locator
http://rockets2.rockfordcorp.com/is-...SDealerLocator
Rainbow
http://www.rainbow-car-audio.com/home/
Diamond Audio Dealer Locator
http://www.diamondaudio.com/car/
Infinity Dealer Locator
http://208.246.13.150/infinitycar/
Boston Acoustics Dealer Locator
http://www.bostonacoustics.com/Dealers.asp
A/D/S Dealer Locator
http://www.adst.com/pages/mtemplate.html
Edit.. one link was messed up.. I fixed it and copied into the FAQ sticky up top. thanks for the info.