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Old May 16, 2004 | 05:34 PM
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Camber plates or bolts?

I am running Eibachs on my 2k1 with tokico blues(soon AGX) up front and AGX in the rear. I also have a stillen style RSB and 235/45r17 Toyo T1-s on 17x8 Enkei rpo2. I am looking to increase cornering grip in the front. I want to know if camber plates will help me do this by reducing positive camber gain to a minimum. I started to think about this after reading about it here.

The stillen camber plates are too expensive are there any other options?

Should I even bother?

TIA
Old May 18, 2004 | 04:00 AM
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First, camber plates do not significantly affect the rate at which camber changes over the range of suspension motion, which is the definition of camber gain. FWIW, camber gain as a function of chassis roll is poor with any Mac strut design; it's at the root of what the M5 guys on your linked thread are griping at as well, and there's not much that can be done about it other than tune around it by optimizing the alignment settings and reducing the amount of roll.

What camber plates do allow you to do is to adjust your static camber to a more negative setting, so that any given amount of chassis roll brings the outside front tire into a lesser amount of positive camber.

Keep in mind that more static negative camber increases the unit loading over the inside shoulder area during straight ahead driving, and will affect your toe setting as well (rear-steer cars usually go in the 'less toe-out/more toe-in' direction as you dial in more negative camber). Depending on your overall driving and assuming a reasonably correct toe setting, that may or may not result in increased inside shoulder wear. With lots of moderate to heavy braking but easy cornering, probably you would see somewhat more. Add lots of moderate to fairly hard cornering and wear tends to even out across the tread a bit better (rather than concentrating on the outer shoulder), so your overall tire life might actually get better relative to the same driving with the OE settings.

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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 07:32 AM
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I had my alignment guy slot the stuts a little so we could get 1.5 deg neg camber. The so-called camber kit was so cs that I tossed it. And as you note, camber plates are expensive.
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