I know there was talk of this before but I was wondering what had come of it. I think its an excellent idea. We need to get some guys moderating it that really know the geometry of our beam system for the 4th gen since theres so much controversy over its reaction to a bolt-on RSB. It would be great to include coilover settings and different setups to help members tune their suspension according to their needs.

-Grant

 

It's called Autocrossing and Road Course Racing Forum ...

 

^^^ I think that's exactly why the last thread was locked.

 

i dont knwo what happend

 

It was locked, because all threads in this section get locked pretty quickly. Actually, my previous thread on this subject stayed unlocked here for more than a week - must have been a world record.

That's like saying "There doesn't need to be an all-motor forum or an FI forum, they can just discuss that in the 1/4 mile forum, since it's all about power"

The autocross forum is for discussing autocross/road racing-specific suspension setups - which are FAR DIFFERENT from "street performance" setups. We don't want a ton of threads on coilovers, street suspension setups, etc on the autocross forums.

When racing, we don't set up our cars with the goal of good ride quality - it's ALL about handling. Also, we are not worried about excessive tire wear, generally (since we have track tires), which can be caused by certain toe/camber settings only used at the track.

I'm still "all-for" an advanced suspension forum - alot of other forums have it, including the several Mazda forums I frequent. But Sprint and the admins have already decided not to make one, so I'm not going to push it anymore.

 

no, that is a forum for discussing autocrossing and road racing...which includes alot of non-suspension topics (driving technique, race gear, track setups, etc etc) - sure there is suspension discussion, but only as it relates to autocross/road race. Besides, the people who go into the autocross/race forum are...duh...autocrossers and road racers, which make up about 2% of org'ers who do suspension work to their cars.

as I said above, we don't send the "all motor" and FI guys to the 1/4 mile forum to discuss "making more power" do we? Same difference.

There is a bias here on the org saying "handling doesn't matter as much as power," which is why there are two sub-forums devoted to making "more power" and none devoted to advanced handling technique.

 

Keep fighting the good fight.. Good point..

Now push the envelope.

 

This thread has been open going on ten days now.

So far, four people seem to agree on the need for an advanced street suspension forum. Would the advanced street suspension forum just lump everything together or would it need sub-forums for the various generations?

I'll continue to leave the thread open to ensure the idea gets a fair airing.

 

I vote for a suspension forum. I think it would eliminate a lot of needless posts in the general forum.

 

I agree with the ides of an advanced suspension forum. I don't know that it would need sub-forums. I think the important generation specific info could be stickied.

 

Love to have one. I'll post 2 pics later this evening of exactly what I need help with

 

I think a Suspension Forum would be great too. Most of the people here have dual purpose cars, so they track on the weekend but it's probably still their primary car. I do think it probably should lean a little more to the technical side, but should include info that the street only guys could use as well.

 

I think it could just be one main forum, since the "which drop looks best on a 5th gen" questions would still stay in the generation forums - this one would be more useful for discussing the smaller nuances of handling and suspension, as well as custom stuff, alot of which would apply to several generations of maimas (i.e. the 4G and 5G suspensions are very similar, etc..)

The FI and all-motor forums are not split up either, and they seem to run pretty smoothly, I would think that this one would too.

Bluemaxx...I'm going to link this to the general forum so more people than just the few of us in here can weigh in...

 

Yes yes yes! Being that the suspension is the weakest link of the stock Maxima, and that most of us care about more than just a good-looking drop, we really need a separate subforum for more advanced suspension/chassis topics. Maybe it should be titled something like Handling and Suspension Tuning or something broad like that.

 

im in, especially for suspension stickies; listing spring rates, actual measurements of drops, why lower is not better, ect.

 

Once again, just as I said in the previous thread, it's a very good idea! Don't really understand why the previous thread got locked without any replies from authorities...

 

It would be a great addition under the advanced performance section

 

well, there are 12 of us now!

 

i know a lot of other car fourms break forums down by generations then by type of mod, power/seuspension/brakes/etc. our cars have too many gens for that, but since i only own a 5th gen and maybe a 4th gen in the future id be in. altho im almost doen with my suspension on my car. heck mayeb id even have soemthing to add.

 

I would like to see a suspension section, and it could be listed under the Autocross and Roadrace forum. I'd me more than happy to moderate it. This is something for the Admins to approve, it's out of my hands.

 

putting it under the autocross forum would be counterproductive, since the "suspension" forum would not be (in most cases) related to autocross, and the only people who go into the autocross forum are the people who autocross.

If it were made, it should be in the "Advanced Performance" section, just like Nitrous, FI, and All Motor, in my opinion.

Stop trying to moderate more forums

 

add one more....

I definitly think it would help get the word out to all these kids with coilovers that the whole point to coilovers is the ability to corner weight them, not just drop the ride height so you have 2" of ground clearance.
There's another thread in this forum complaining about bad handling with coilovers, did he corner weight them?...No. Before he posted the thread, I'm not sure he knew he should either.

 

he just wants more chances to ban Bauer....

 

im in, advanced performance -> suspension

 

This is why I started the thread, thanks Irish

 

add one more, its a great idea!!!!

 

+1 I think it's a great idea. There are so many suspension related threads, I think it could help those seeking info connect with the guys who have been there and done that. I know alot of the guys (myself included) just cruise sections that intrest them, or they can help out in. I also think that alot of the suspension info can cover a wide range of generations. You might find an answer from someone who would never had seen the question in a generation specific forum.

 

Ok, when's this new forum gonna get off the ground. I got parts and idea's backed up the you know what.

You call that little plastic thingy a strut bearing?


CarTest software ain't nothin!

 

I would vote for an advanced suspension forum as well.

 

agreed- this type of info is invaluable, since in just about any realworld situation good handling/driving will defeat bad handling and a stomp-the-pedal-to-the-metal mentality. and as mentioned above, we can all use some mods to help our rides become safer and more predictable at the limit(Nissan engineers left that part out of their equation).

 

+1

Most definitely. I hate how the motor heads get their own Nitrous and F/I forums for their own discussions and not the suspension and chassis stiffening guys.

 

I love the idea of an advanced suspension forum. I would be great to have the stickies with advice on which setups for this and that. Sub catigories would be nice easier for navigation but not a necessary thing to have. I look forward to one and i hope we get it soon.

B

 

22 "pros" now (including one moderator)

 

+1 great idea

 

I am STILL down for this....

 

I think its a great idea as well

 

I agree.

Everything else was already covered so I have no other suggestions, but I do agree

 

+1.

Topic starters of suspension-related threads - particularly those with questions involving technical issues in greater depth - deserve a better shot at getting a response before it falls off the first page (generally speaking, out of sight still means out of mind). And TTT'ing your own thread two or three times just to keep it in sight is a poor alternative that only makes everybody look bad.

On edit, I prefer the idea of a separate forum for questions not involving auto-X or road course activity. The details of RR/AX tuning are sufficiently different from thoughtful street or street/strip tuning, let alone the usual "lowering for appearance sake only" discussions.

Norm

 

I vote for it, there is so many members on here that would benefit greatly from it. There is so much to suspension that people don't understand, and could learn through a Forum like that. +1

 

I would love to see a fourm started for this