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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 03:24 PM
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Souveran...OMFG!!

Here's what was delivered the other day....


And here are the results. This IS the best wax I've ever used.



Old Sep 19, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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a few more pics...







I can't believe the depth of the shine. Truly amazing.....
Old Sep 19, 2004 | 04:28 PM
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Wow ! Nice job. What did you do to prep ?

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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverBelle04
Wow ! Nice job. What did you do to prep ?

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The paint was still pretty smooth from the clay bar I used in early summer, so I skipped that this time. I washed, Menzerna Final Polish applied with a PC 7424, Klasse AIO with the PC then 2 layers (24 hours apart) of the Souveran.
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wow amazing !! link me to this product
Old Sep 19, 2004 | 06:58 PM
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Nice job, Blues. But I think you and I have the same mindset that we'd use Souveran for shows/meets and S100 for everyday. From the looks of your finish, you still had SG on the finish and then topped it with Souveran.

However, I have been dying to check out Liquid Souveran.

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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 07:06 PM
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oooo no way im gettin near that. ill use my 3/4 of bottle full pos meguiars wax (which doesnt shinne at all) !!


too expensive
Old Sep 19, 2004 | 07:13 PM
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by PrinzII
Nice job, Blues. But I think you and I have the same mindset that we'd use Souveran for shows/meets and S100 for everyday. From the looks of your finish, you still had SG on the finish and then topped it with Souveran.

However, I have been dying to check out Liquid Souveran.
No SG on, Prinz. There was a week old topping of S100. (over the prep stuff I mentioned above.) Before the Souveran this weekend, I washed with Meg's Gold Class, then added the 2 layers of Souveran.

What do you see that looks like there is some SG on there?
Old Sep 20, 2004 | 05:39 AM
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Oh ok. Looked like an SGed finish because of the reflectivity.
Old Sep 20, 2004 | 06:11 AM
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It's been awhile since I actually posted anything about my car or detailing but I had to jump in for this.

Pinnacle is worth the money x 1000. It's like everything Zymol should be but isn't. If I'm going to pay 60 bucks for wax it should last at least decently long, look amazing, and be disgustingly easy to apply. Zymol lasts not at all, looks amazing, and is a NIGHTMARE to apply. I've been using Pinnacle all summer and I think I've finally found "my" wax. I don't think I need to look any further. Worth every penny and more. The little container lasts a long time especially when you apply it by machine.

I'm changing to Klasse SG for the winter, but I will def be back to pinnacle come spring (or if I feel like waxing this winter after 5+ coats of SG)./
Old Sep 20, 2004 | 06:18 AM
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I'll do the Klasse SG for the winter, also. Won't look quite as good, but better protection and longer lasting, too.
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But try SG topped with Souveran.
Old Sep 21, 2004 | 07:54 AM
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man that looks very nice
Old Sep 21, 2004 | 01:40 PM
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That looks incredible Tom! I can't wait to see it in person.
I am also a fan of the Pinnacle family. I currently have 3 coats of Pinnacle Paste Glaz on my car, which is more or less a Souveran for light color vehicles. The best part is: Paste Glaz is "only" $35.00 / jar, or ~$25.00 / jar on sale.
How's the Menzerna work for you Tom? Does it get swirls out easily? Ever tried to remove scratches/swirls by hand with it?

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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 03:50 PM
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Thanks, Fosgate.

Prinz - I'll try Souveran over the SG in the fall....

Paul, Menzerna is very good. The intensive polish for the tougher imperfections (I haven't had to use it much) and the Final Polish for minor stuff. Both work well. I've applied the Intensive by hand for small spots, but used the PC when I used the Final Polish on the entire car.
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Final Polish is disgusting. I was using DACP as a final step for awhile and the results with the FP are much crazier.
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Originally Posted by endus
Final Polish is disgusting. I was using DACP as a final step for awhile and the results with the FP are much crazier.
I'm confused...do you like FP? Or are you saying it's no good?

FP is a very mild polish. (Intensive Polish is more agressive) FP won't be good on a finish in bad shape. BMW and GM use the FP on the assembly line to touch up any minor blemishes on new car finishes.
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looks like we need to set up a GD on THESE !!!
Old Sep 22, 2004 | 08:59 AM
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That's something I may work on down the line.
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Originally Posted by PrinzII
That's something I may work on down the line.
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Originally Posted by Bluesbrekr
I'm confused...do you like FP? Or are you saying it's no good?

FP is a very mild polish. (Intensive Polish is more agressive) FP won't be good on a finish in bad shape. BMW and GM use the FP on the assembly line to touch up any minor blemishes on new car finishes.
Love it.

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Originally Posted by endus
Love it.

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Thanks for the clarification. The Menzerna twins are the best I've found.
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I am going to add Menzerna to my arsenal as well as Einszett. One can never have enough polishes.
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That looks great. That is exactly the type of finish I'm looking for. Right now I'm using #26. Does a pretty good job. And unfortunately I have to do everything by hand.

The Souvern is pretty expensive too. But, from what I've read on other forums, you should stick with the paste. There's probably a reason why the liquid is cheaper.
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For anyone with a light color that is envious of the awesome relectivity of Pinnacle Souveran on dark colors, you should check into Pinnacle Paste Glaz. It's still higher-priced than many waxes out there, but you can see the results at the bottom of my homepage.
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Originally Posted by schmatt
That looks great. That is exactly the type of finish I'm looking for. Right now I'm using #26. Does a pretty good job. And unfortunately I have to do everything by hand.

The Souvern is pretty expensive too. But, from what I've read on other forums, you should stick with the paste. There's probably a reason why the liquid is cheaper.
Over at autopia, the Souveran liquid is well regarded....almost as good as the paste.

Prinz - have you tried the liquid yet? IIRC, I thought you said you were going to get/try some?
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Originally Posted by Bluesbrekr
Over at autopia, the Souveran liquid is well regarded....almost as good as the paste.

Prinz - have you tried the liquid yet? IIRC, I thought you said you were going to get/try some?
That, my friend, is on my list of goodies to try as soon as funds allow it.
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Originally Posted by PrinzII
That, my friend, is on my list of goodies to try as soon as funds allow it.
Cool....I hope your funds allow it soon.




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