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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 04:35 AM
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question about polish

newbie question...

if i polish my car, do i have to wax if afterwards...because i just waxed it 2 weeks ago.

thx
Old Oct 1, 2004 | 09:07 AM
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Yes - true polishes generally have no wax in them. If you want the real results of a polish, get a wax-free one like Einszett Lackpolitur or some of the Meguiar's or 3M professional products.

Check out www.autopia-carcare.com for more information on how to do this job. A lot of times it's recommended that you use a dish soap (like Dawn) to remove all the wax before you start polishing or restoring your paint. It works great - might be a good idea if you recently waxed.
Old Oct 2, 2004 | 08:27 PM
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The polish will remove the wax. No need to use Dawn (there is much debate on autopia as to whether Dawn actually removes wax or not) And yes, you'll need to wax after polishing because your finish will be unprotected.
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jklx86
newbie question...

if i polish my car, do i have to wax if afterwards...because i just waxed it 2 weeks ago.

thx
Specifically, what polish did you use?

Some manufacturers don't help the matter because they sometimes use polish to mean things that aren't.....
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 10:04 AM
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i am using color cure (black) by turtle wax first, then cleaner wax by meguires. Is this the right order in which to apply it?
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 12:51 PM
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Actually, No. What's happening is that you are applying a wax first and then the "polish." The normal way is to use the "polish" first and then the wax.

As one poster said, true polishes do not have any waxes. Plus, the cleaner wax you have does not have the abrasive power to remove a variety of paint imperfections. Most cleaner waxes have enough abrasives to remove light oxidation from the finish and (maybe) light swirling.
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 01:51 PM
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so i am more comfused now lol.. which way will I have to do this?
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 06:57 PM
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should i use the color cure first then wax, or wax then use the color cure.. i dont wanna mess up ;(..
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 10:58 PM
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what he is saying is the cleaner wax is more of a light polish. Which will remove the wax (color cure). So u should use the cleaner wax first then top with the color cure.
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 07:07 AM
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I see what your saying.. yea i was doing it that way from the beginning.. thanks dude..
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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is this color cure ok, i have heard decent reviews on it, but still am ambivalent.
Old Oct 6, 2004 | 08:27 AM
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bump bump..
Old Oct 6, 2004 | 08:35 AM
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So I should use the cleaner wax first, then the black color cure turtle wax polish??


I am just tring to make sure now because I have been comfused and have heard a lot of different things. Some have said wax fiurst, then polish.. Others have said polish first, then wax...
Old Oct 6, 2004 | 10:25 AM
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Basically, all the color cure wax does is fill in the scratches or swirls. On the next wash (or two), you will notice that the swirls will reappear.
Old Oct 6, 2004 | 10:26 AM
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So wax, then color cure?
Old Oct 6, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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If you really want to use the Color Cure and then attempt to seal it in with something, you should apply that and then a pure non-cleaner paste wax, like Mothers Step 3 or some of the higher end paste waxes mentioned here. If unsure about a product, ask. I don't guarantee that this will work, but a pure paste wax has less chance of totally removing the Color Cure, which "normal" cleaner waxes and liquid waxes would try to do.

I think Color Cure is intended to be used all by itself though, so you don't have to cover it with anything.
Old Oct 6, 2004 | 01:44 PM
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Thats what I was thinking, I thought i could do a cleaner wax then use color cure because it can be used all by it self.. But I have heard other things now so I dunno what to do.

So you guys are saying I should just apply the cleaner wax, then the color cure polish after and everything should be fine?? I wont lose the wax I had just applied right?
Old Oct 6, 2004 | 02:08 PM
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Well, personally I'd avoid the Cleaner Wax all together. It's a really marginal product, and if you have swirls/imperfections that you're trying to eliminate neither that nor the Color Cure will be a good solution. You really have two very similiar products. They sell as "one step solutions", but neither are that great.

Thus I'll recommend either of the three options below:

1. Use JUST the cleaner wax - it will remove some very minor paint imperfections and give an okay shine, but it won't last for very long on your black car and probably won't give great results if your finish has been neglected.

2. Use the color cure, then go buy a good paste wax to apply after it. Go to Target and get some Meg's Gold Class or something. That'll be your basic, cheapo polish and wax combination.

3. Ditch both products and go get a clay bar kit, 3M 39009 Perfect-It Swirlmark Remover (or Einszett LackPolitur), and 3M 39526 Perfect-It Paste Wax (or Einszett Glanz Wax) and clay your car, machine polish it, and then wax it.

#3 will make it most shiny and will remove any minor or moderate surface defects, contamination, etc. that you have in your paint.

Good luck! Detailing your car can be a lot of fun. I've been doing it since I was 15 and I can't get enough.
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