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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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driver door rust sport

hey. one thing i have not learned about while being on the .org is anything about detailing. i have a rust spot that i want to take car of before it starts to get out of hand. it is not very deep in the metal. what kind of stuff should i be using to take care of this.
i figure that i need to scape all the rust off with some sort of narrow steel brush, and then cover the metal with something, but i dont know what products to use. any thoughts.

Old Apr 5, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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I don't mean to hi-jack the thread, but I too have a question about dealing with rust. I have a small paint chip above my fuel door, and it started to rust. I'll post a picture tomorrow, but I too want to know how to take care of it.
Old Apr 6, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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The good news is its in an inconspicuous area and you can probably afford to use something aggressive on it. I would wash it good, then try using a mild to abrasive clay. If its fairly light surface rust, this might remove alot of it. Beyond that, you may need to wet sand it a bit.
Old Apr 7, 2007 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by clayman88
The good news is its in an inconspicuous area and you can probably afford to use something aggressive on it. I would wash it good, then try using a mild to abrasive clay. If its fairly light surface rust, this might remove alot of it. Beyond that, you may need to wet sand it a bit.
what would the be the purpose of using a clay?

i did some google searching, and came across a couple of products that prevent rust in some fashion.
http://www.kbs-coatings.com/KBS-Syst...er-P91C37.aspx
http://www.rustbullet.com/
http://www.magnetpaints.com/underbody.asp
http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/p...eyword=16045ZP

so i was just wondering if someone had used some product and had success with it. otherwise im going to buy the KBS and give it a shot.
Old Apr 7, 2007 | 10:08 AM
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Yah theres no purpose to clay, the paint is already gone

Eastwood and POR-15 seem to be the favorites that are always recommended, so I would check one of those 2 out
Old Apr 9, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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If its just a little surface rust, the clay will pull more of it off the paint. If its deep rust, then it probably wouldn't do any good.
Old Apr 18, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Ephraim,

Did you proceed yet on your rust? It looks like you put on some rustoleum type of prevention that did not help much. I say this 'cause it looks like my driver rear door that I need to really nip in the butt and stop.

Anyone else have strong preferences for treatment? That rustbullet sounds pretty good, but seems as though it might be kinda thick in the application and come out kinda globby for a visual surface??? Is this thinking inline? If so, then something that spreads more like paint consistency seems like a better choice, like the KBS or Eastwood products. Not sure since I've not used any of them.

Any more thoughts?
Old May 1, 2007 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Dhunterx
I don't mean to hi-jack the thread, but I too have a question about dealing with rust. I have a small paint chip above my fuel door, and it started to rust. I'll post a picture tomorrow, but I too want to know how to take care of it.
-DUDE, I feel your pain. I have a paint chip right above my fuel door too... and its startin to rust ... If I could have three wishes... one would be to make rust extinct.
Old May 2, 2007 | 04:56 PM
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I guess you could/will get some rust if you live by the ocean??? but, try MICHIGAN, "dude" if ya wanna see rust!!! It's sickening....
Old May 9, 2007 | 07:01 AM
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Ephraim,

Did you proceed yet on your rust? It looks like you put on some rustoleum type of prevention that did not help much. I say this 'cause it looks like my driver rear door that I need to really nip in the butt and stop.

Anyone else have strong preferences for treatment? That rustbullet sounds pretty good, but seems as though it might be kinda thick in the application and come out kinda globby for a visual surface??? Is this thinking inline? If so, then something that spreads more like paint consistency seems like a better choice, like the KBS or Eastwood products. Not sure since I've not used any of them.

Any more thoughts?

Anybody got info on rust treatment/preventer like POR15 or something that will allow a visual surface to look nice? I have sanded and used rustoleum w/ poor results on the rust thing and looking to do it over w/ a better product but don't want some "thick" stuff on there to paint over and have it look bad on a visual surface.

Good suggestions? I don't know these products well and they all think their's is the best! Minor rust is what I wanna kill and repaint.
Old May 30, 2007 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MichMaxFan
Anybody got info on rust treatment/preventer like POR15 or something that will allow a visual surface to look nice? I have sanded and used rustoleum w/ poor results on the rust thing and looking to do it over w/ a better product but don't want some "thick" stuff on there to paint over and have it look bad on a visual surface.

Good suggestions? I don't know these products well and they all think their's is the best! Minor rust is what I wanna kill and repaint.

Bump this to get an answer?? TIA!
Old May 30, 2007 | 04:43 PM
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Did you just notice that in the last couple of months? If so, it has been brewing for a while on the inside and you didn't notice until it caused the paint to delaminate.

To slow rust down, you have to deprive it of oxygen (on both sides of the panel) Coating it on the outside is just a band-aid. It will bleed through within a few weeks or months.

I would take the interior trim pieces off and see if you can gain access to that seam from the inside. You need to spray some water displacing rust inhibiter directly into the seam. I use a product called Krown T40 for that purpose.

Of course, you should remove as much of that rust as you can. It may be more extensive than you think so you may even need to take a wire wheel to it if sandpaper won't do the job. If the surface is badly pitted, you may want to use putty to smooth it out before primimg and painting.

Personally I do not buy into any of these so called rust prevention paints. You want complete coverage (for oxygen deprivation) and as high a dry film thickness (for abrasion resistance) that you can achieve. The latter point is why I use brush-on paint for any under the vehicle work (control arms, k-frame, rear beam, etc.) The solids content of all aerosols is so low (so it does not clog the nozzle), it is useless for anything subjected to any contact from road debris.
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