driver door rust sport
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driver door rust sport
hey. one thing i have not learned about while being on the .org is anything about detailing. i have a rust spot that i want to take car of before it starts to get out of hand. it is not very deep in the metal. what kind of stuff should i be using to take care of this.
i figure that i need to scape all the rust off with some sort of narrow steel brush, and then cover the metal with something, but i dont know what products to use. any thoughts.
i figure that i need to scape all the rust off with some sort of narrow steel brush, and then cover the metal with something, but i dont know what products to use. any thoughts.
I don't mean to hi-jack the thread, but I too have a question about dealing with rust. I have a small paint chip above my fuel door, and it started to rust. I'll post a picture tomorrow, but I too want to know how to take care of it.
The good news is its in an inconspicuous area and you can probably afford to use something aggressive on it. I would wash it good, then try using a mild to abrasive clay. If its fairly light surface rust, this might remove alot of it. Beyond that, you may need to wet sand it a bit.
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Originally Posted by clayman88
The good news is its in an inconspicuous area and you can probably afford to use something aggressive on it. I would wash it good, then try using a mild to abrasive clay. If its fairly light surface rust, this might remove alot of it. Beyond that, you may need to wet sand it a bit.
i did some google searching, and came across a couple of products that prevent rust in some fashion.
http://www.kbs-coatings.com/KBS-Syst...er-P91C37.aspx
http://www.rustbullet.com/
http://www.magnetpaints.com/underbody.asp
http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/p...eyword=16045ZP
so i was just wondering if someone had used some product and had success with it. otherwise im going to buy the KBS and give it a shot.
Ephraim,
Did you proceed yet on your rust? It looks like you put on some rustoleum type of prevention that did not help much. I say this 'cause it looks like my driver rear door that I need to really nip in the butt and stop.
Anyone else have strong preferences for treatment? That rustbullet sounds pretty good, but seems as though it might be kinda thick in the application and come out kinda globby for a visual surface??? Is this thinking inline? If so, then something that spreads more like paint consistency seems like a better choice, like the KBS or Eastwood products. Not sure since I've not used any of them.
Any more thoughts?
Did you proceed yet on your rust? It looks like you put on some rustoleum type of prevention that did not help much. I say this 'cause it looks like my driver rear door that I need to really nip in the butt and stop.
Anyone else have strong preferences for treatment? That rustbullet sounds pretty good, but seems as though it might be kinda thick in the application and come out kinda globby for a visual surface??? Is this thinking inline? If so, then something that spreads more like paint consistency seems like a better choice, like the KBS or Eastwood products. Not sure since I've not used any of them.
Any more thoughts?
Originally Posted by Dhunterx
I don't mean to hi-jack the thread, but I too have a question about dealing with rust. I have a small paint chip above my fuel door, and it started to rust. I'll post a picture tomorrow, but I too want to know how to take care of it.
... If I could have three wishes... one would be to make rust extinct.
Originally Posted by MichMaxFan
Ephraim,
Did you proceed yet on your rust? It looks like you put on some rustoleum type of prevention that did not help much. I say this 'cause it looks like my driver rear door that I need to really nip in the butt and stop.
Anyone else have strong preferences for treatment? That rustbullet sounds pretty good, but seems as though it might be kinda thick in the application and come out kinda globby for a visual surface??? Is this thinking inline? If so, then something that spreads more like paint consistency seems like a better choice, like the KBS or Eastwood products. Not sure since I've not used any of them.
Any more thoughts?
Did you proceed yet on your rust? It looks like you put on some rustoleum type of prevention that did not help much. I say this 'cause it looks like my driver rear door that I need to really nip in the butt and stop.
Anyone else have strong preferences for treatment? That rustbullet sounds pretty good, but seems as though it might be kinda thick in the application and come out kinda globby for a visual surface??? Is this thinking inline? If so, then something that spreads more like paint consistency seems like a better choice, like the KBS or Eastwood products. Not sure since I've not used any of them.
Any more thoughts?
Anybody got info on rust treatment/preventer like POR15 or something that will allow a visual surface to look nice? I have sanded and used rustoleum w/ poor results on the rust thing and looking to do it over w/ a better product but don't want some "thick" stuff on there to paint over and have it look bad on a visual surface.
Good suggestions? I don't know these products well and they all think their's is the best! Minor rust is what I wanna kill and repaint.
Originally Posted by MichMaxFan
Anybody got info on rust treatment/preventer like POR15 or something that will allow a visual surface to look nice? I have sanded and used rustoleum w/ poor results on the rust thing and looking to do it over w/ a better product but don't want some "thick" stuff on there to paint over and have it look bad on a visual surface.
Good suggestions? I don't know these products well and they all think their's is the best! Minor rust is what I wanna kill and repaint.
Good suggestions? I don't know these products well and they all think their's is the best! Minor rust is what I wanna kill and repaint.
Bump this to get an answer?? TIA!
Did you just notice that in the last couple of months? If so, it has been brewing for a while on the inside and you didn't notice until it caused the paint to delaminate.
To slow rust down, you have to deprive it of oxygen (on both sides of the panel) Coating it on the outside is just a band-aid. It will bleed through within a few weeks or months.
I would take the interior trim pieces off and see if you can gain access to that seam from the inside. You need to spray some water displacing rust inhibiter directly into the seam. I use a product called Krown T40 for that purpose.
Of course, you should remove as much of that rust as you can. It may be more extensive than you think so you may even need to take a wire wheel to it if sandpaper won't do the job. If the surface is badly pitted, you may want to use putty to smooth it out before primimg and painting.
Personally I do not buy into any of these so called rust prevention paints. You want complete coverage (for oxygen deprivation) and as high a dry film thickness (for abrasion resistance) that you can achieve. The latter point is why I use brush-on paint for any under the vehicle work (control arms, k-frame, rear beam, etc.) The solids content of all aerosols is so low (so it does not clog the nozzle), it is useless for anything subjected to any contact from road debris.
To slow rust down, you have to deprive it of oxygen (on both sides of the panel) Coating it on the outside is just a band-aid. It will bleed through within a few weeks or months.
I would take the interior trim pieces off and see if you can gain access to that seam from the inside. You need to spray some water displacing rust inhibiter directly into the seam. I use a product called Krown T40 for that purpose.
Of course, you should remove as much of that rust as you can. It may be more extensive than you think so you may even need to take a wire wheel to it if sandpaper won't do the job. If the surface is badly pitted, you may want to use putty to smooth it out before primimg and painting.
Personally I do not buy into any of these so called rust prevention paints. You want complete coverage (for oxygen deprivation) and as high a dry film thickness (for abrasion resistance) that you can achieve. The latter point is why I use brush-on paint for any under the vehicle work (control arms, k-frame, rear beam, etc.) The solids content of all aerosols is so low (so it does not clog the nozzle), it is useless for anything subjected to any contact from road debris.
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I guess you could/will get some rust if you live by the ocean??? but, try MICHIGAN, "dude" if ya wanna see rust!!! It's sickening....
