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Old May 17, 2012 | 12:35 PM
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thats what i did when i saw ur dyno graphs
well if you had really looked at it instead of doing that, you might have noticed that this car was actually worse than UNtuned. it is MIStuned to the degree that between 4400 and 6500 it gets 300% of the fuel a UNtuned car would get.
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Old May 17, 2012 | 02:52 PM
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thats what i did when i saw ur dyno graphs
Then I'm sure you understood why my numbers are the way they are when you read the rest of the thread.
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Then I'm sure you understood why my numbers are the way they are when you read the rest of the thread.

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Old May 17, 2012 | 04:48 PM
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well if you had really looked at it instead of doing that, you might have noticed that this car was actually worse than UNtuned. it is MIStuned to the degree that between 4400 and 6500 it gets 300% of the fuel a UNtuned car would get.

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Old May 17, 2012 | 05:01 PM
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Old May 17, 2012 | 05:16 PM
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Old May 21, 2012 | 09:46 AM
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And your #'s are?
none yet i'm waiting for a group dyno deal with my local maxima forum. i'm a student so $100 for 3 pulls is quite expensive. planning to hit the track for test n tune in june when i have my suspension and brakes figured out.

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How did you get into the 6.5-7.2 range with just the VAFC? TS or JWT Ecu?
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Good question
JWT ecu

Originally Posted by McSteve
well if you had really looked at it instead of doing that, you might have noticed that this car was actually worse than UNtuned. it is MIStuned to the degree that between 4400 and 6500 it gets 300% of the fuel a UNtuned car would get.


Originally Posted by datdude20
you're such a d!ck lol he's learning and trying to figure this out mang. wait for the proper tune before sh!tting on his work lol

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Old May 21, 2012 | 07:22 PM
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Old May 22, 2012 | 01:34 PM
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Old May 24, 2012 | 11:19 PM
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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 06:03 PM
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Shouldnt De-k's make around 210+ hp o_O
Old Jun 3, 2012 | 08:45 PM
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at the crank maybe. nissan has reputation for overstating their numbers.
Old Jun 3, 2012 | 09:49 PM
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Unless you guys run on the same dyno, in similar conditions, you cannot really compare dyno numbers, some dynos read high some read low. You can compare curves, not numbers. Dunno how many times this has to be repeated until it sink in.
Old Jun 4, 2012 | 05:34 AM
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Shouldnt De-k's make around 210+ hp o_O
at a rated 222whp thats having less than 10% drivetrain loss which would be extremely impressive for any family economy sedan lol... but to answer your question, in stock form a 5MT DEK 00-01 should dyno 180's
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Finally got the runfiles https://docs.google.com/open?id=0Bx7...Hk4TndzaHhmbjA

And here's my dyno vs maximus92 auto usim that was mentioned earlier in the thread
http://www.flickr.com/photos/schmellyfart/7904004318/http://www.flickr.com/photos/schmellyfart/7904004318/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/schmellyfart/, on Flickr

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Old Oct 3, 2012 | 09:57 PM
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Someone in the area is offering $50 for 3 dyno pulls, and so I immediately thought of this. Considering my mods and the fuel filter and knock sensor I just replaced I'm thinking I can get 170hp. That's being optimistic
Old Oct 4, 2012 | 03:33 AM
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you're such a d!ck lol he's learning and trying to figure this out mang. wait for the proper tune before sh!tting on his work lol
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by datdude20
This is sad....I made more power than this guy in my auto de-k with a broken VI...untuned 196whp
but isn't Hills Dyno is very, very friendly
Old Oct 5, 2012 | 08:04 PM
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but isn't Hills Dyno is very, very friendly
What type of Dyno is that....
Old Oct 7, 2012 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by t6378tp
but isn't Hills Dyno is very, very friendly
Dont think hes ever dynoed at hills...
Old Oct 9, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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What type of Dyno is that....
it's not a type, it's a shop
Old Oct 18, 2012 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by t6378tp
it's not a type, it's a shop
Know its a shop, what kind of Dyno they run at that shop, Dynojet, or some type of Load Dyno.....
Old Oct 21, 2012 | 11:11 AM
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Can't wait to see this thing run after it's tuned.
Old Oct 21, 2012 | 02:46 PM
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it says dynojet on the chart so Im assuming they used the dyno they had lol
Old Oct 21, 2012 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ShocknAwe
it says dynojet on the chart so Im assuming they used the dyno they had lol
WTF are you talking about.....
Old Oct 21, 2012 | 03:17 PM
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I thought you were talking about the OP




However, THESE are rollers:
Old Oct 21, 2012 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ShocknAwe
I thought you were talking about the OP




However, THESE are rollers:
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Originally Posted by Quickywd01
Can't wait to see this thing run after it's tuned.
I doubt I'll gain any peak power. Just more area under the curve, especially where I was straight up dumping fuel into the engine.

And shocknawe, Rod was asking about the dyno at Hills Garage, not mine.
Old Dec 1, 2012 | 09:52 PM
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Dynoed again today, here's the best run. I didn't care about fine tuning the hump over 6500, was too busy looking at the rest of the curve for the parts I was testing.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/schmellyfart/8236230333/http://www.flickr.com/photos/schmellyfart/8236230333/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/schmellyfart/, on Flickr
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Damn Nice numbers man, I should be hitting it in 2 weeks or less....
Old Dec 4, 2012 | 07:56 PM
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I approve of this dyno chart!
Old Dec 4, 2012 | 08:33 PM
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Nice #s.

Different dyno I'm assuming?
Old Dec 4, 2012 | 08:48 PM
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something is wrong here, you're pulling less than me and Aaron.
Fix yours yet?
Old Dec 4, 2012 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 95naSTA
Nice #s.

Different dyno I'm assuming?
Nope same shop, same dyno. Last time was a dyno day in May, this time I rented 2 hours in December.
Old Dec 4, 2012 | 10:10 PM
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can you post AFRs for both runs?
Old Dec 4, 2012 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by McSteve
can you post AFRs for both runs?
For drf 002 it was 10s for the dip and high 12s above 6500. Timing peaked at 30* at redline.
drf 015 averaged out at mid 13s all throughout and peaked at 39* at redline.

Here's the rest of the dynos from this session from my thread:
http://forums.maxima.org/4th-generat...-compared.html

Below is broken vias vs deleted power rod.
Originally Posted by schmellyfart
Well it seems like my vias may not have been working properly after all. I tried switching around the nvcs setting on the eu and the curve didn't change at all. When I had it apart the cup didn't move by hand.. Sorry guys. Kinda sucks, but not much I can do about it now.

HP only:


TQ only:


Both:


I'll put the intake dynos up relatively soon.
Originally Posted by schmellyfart
Alright guys here are the maf dynos and my notes. I don't feel like typing my notes out so here's a pic of them. The timing noted for each run was the peak value at fuel cut. (7200 in most cases). After I finished with the 3" maf I tossed the 3.5 back on just to see what it would do. Not a huge difference at all, not worth the money on a 3.0 IMO.



Here are the maf dynos, my 3.5" maf vs the stock maf. Both with legnth tuned 3.5" and 3" pipes respectively. The only thing that may affect the results is the front breather was connected to the 3.5" intake, the front breather vented to atmosphere on the 3"

Initial comparison there are some runs in between where I was messing with timing.


After that I immediately put the 3.5" back on and did 2 back to back runs and called it a day.




I also noticed one of my first few runs maxed out at 39* of timing, so with the stock maf I kicked the timing up from 32* peak to 39* because I thought most of the 3.5" dynos were at 39*. There was an avg peak difference of 5.87hp and 3.05 lb ft.



My highest dyno of the day. I forgot to type a "-" into my fuel map at 5.5k. I didn't spend any time fine tuning the hump over 6500.
Old Dec 6, 2012 | 04:19 AM
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214whp?....not bad at all
Old Dec 6, 2012 | 06:31 AM
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That's WTF I'm talking about.

Now it seems right.

So in short, go with a 3" MAF, not the 3.5".

Add a grip of timing + bolt ons.



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